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Kitchens is in the sean10mm fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Sep 25, 2019 12:03
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New Hires: Matt LaFleur - Packers - 3-0 Freddie Kitchens - Browns - 1-2 Bruce Arians - Buccaneers - 1-2 Kliff Kingsbury - Cardinals - 0-2-1 Vic Fangio - Broncos - 0-3 Zac Taylor - Bengals - 0-3 Adam Gase - Jets - 0-3 Brian Flores - Dolphins - 0-3 This is not a great group so far, Arians, Gase and Flores have the best excuses though
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Sep 25, 2019 15:37
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Arians seems more likely to just retire again than actually be fired
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Sep 25, 2019 15:41
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Arians needs to take play calling away from Leftwich. WTF Byron? https://twitter.com/KevinColePFF/status/1176270431780835330?s=20
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Sep 25, 2019 15:46
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DariusLikewise posted:New Hires: What exactly is Arians' excuse?
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Sep 25, 2019 16:17
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:What exactly is Arians' excuse? This but for Flores. Dolphins are unprepared and unmotivated and he's been taunting his own players.
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Sep 25, 2019 16:20
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Are we talking their official excuses or what we know is going on?
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Sep 25, 2019 16:24
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:What exactly is Arians' excuse? Jameis Winston is a pretty good excuse. Also they've been very competitive so far, they were down 20-17 until stupid bullshit late in the 49ers game, won a road TNF game, which is impressive by itself, and should've beaten the Giants (granted, missing the FG compounded by his dumbass decision). Way better then the Buccaneers have been lately. -------------------- On the other hand, the Dolphins played competitive football for a half against the Cowboys, so that's a step forward, but still if they're this bad, Flores has got to loving go at the end of the year.
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Sep 25, 2019 16:28
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i hope the dolphins go 0-16
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Sep 25, 2019 16:33
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:What exactly is Arians' excuse? Arians was brought in to fix Jamesis and failing that find their next QB
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Sep 25, 2019 17:13
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DariusLikewise posted:Arians was brought in to fix Jamesis and failing that find their next QB My impression is that he's going to leave if he can't fix Jameis. I base that on nothing more than my gut feeling and his previous retirement.
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Sep 25, 2019 17:15
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I don't think Arians can be on any list for the simple reason that he doesn't give a gently caress and also he already holds most of the power in that organization
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Sep 25, 2019 17:44
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Ehud posted:i hope the dolphins go 0-16 Look at this guy, wanting a parade.
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Sep 25, 2019 18:03
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C-Bangin' it 
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Kalli posted:Jameis Winston is a pretty good excuse. His reason for arriving in Tampa was to work with Winston and take him to the next level, so that doesn't really hold water. And you don't earn popsicles for almost winning games you blew.
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Sep 25, 2019 18:33
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Earn popsicles?
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Sep 25, 2019 18:34
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weak is the man who lacks popsicles. deceived is the man who earns the popsicles. strong is the man who seizes the production of popsicles.
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Sep 25, 2019 18:40
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You gotta get at least 9 wins to spell out the hidden word from each popsicle stick
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Sep 25, 2019 19:22
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got any sevens posted:You gotta get at least 9 wins to spell out the hidden word from each popsicle stick YOUREGONE
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Sep 25, 2019 20:48
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got any sevens posted:You gotta get at least 9 wins to spell out the hidden word from each popsicle stick I❤️RUBMAPS
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Sep 25, 2019 21:04
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https://twitter.com/richeisenshow/status/1177624411756589056?s=21
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Sep 27, 2019 19:16
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Wasn't there something about Snyder or Allens son being friends with Haskins?
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Sep 27, 2019 19:26
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Wasn't there something about Snyder or Allens son being friends with Haskins? Haskins played high school ball in the DC area so it wouldn't surprise me.
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Sep 27, 2019 19:32
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Haskins seems toolsy enough that if your season is in the toilet you could imagine coaching him up and it working out? Big arm, reasonably accurate, not apparently dumb. Moves like a cement truck but lots of good quarterbacks have had that trait. Believe me I am incredibly hesitant to even possibly side with Washington's front office over anyone in the world.
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Sep 27, 2019 19:38
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I wouldn't be surprised if Gruden doesn't want to place Haskins because the Washington O-Line is a loving mess and he would get destroyed
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Sep 27, 2019 19:42
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DariusLikewise posted:I wouldn't be surprised if Gruden doesn't want to place Haskins because the Washington O-Line is a loving mess and he would get destroyed I also wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want to play Haskins because he's a stubborn rear end who didn't want them to pick him anyways and is convinced that his stable of inadequate white quarterbacks can do the job Washington is a horrible team. It's absolutely time to bring in Haskins and see what he can do. I don't really think the chance of getting injured on a sack should be that huge of a consideration
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Sep 27, 2019 19:55
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Haskins will tear his ACL on their lovely field and their lovely doctors will accidentally amputate his leg, which would still be a better fate than being the starting QB for Washington.
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Sep 27, 2019 19:56
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Everyone's reaction to the Redskins drafting Haskins was basically welp he's hosed.
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Sep 27, 2019 20:11
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Washington may not technically be the worst team in the NFL, but they are without question the most hopeless team in the league, at least so long as Snyder is owner.
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Sep 27, 2019 21:47
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Yeah, Miami is following a plan. it might not be a good plan, but they've got a vision for where they expect to be in 2-3 years and are working to make that happen. The Jets are currently loving up a plan, but again, it's very easy to see how things go right there even if they're a mess currently. Washington? They've got a coach they're going to fire, a bunch of expensive and aging veterans, a rookie QB they don't want to play, an aging, star left tackle that refuses to play, that they also haven't traded for picks when they could've gotten gold for him, and probably the most incompetent owner / gm combo in the league.
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Sep 27, 2019 21:52
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I feel like whatever washington does after they fire gruden is going to be the wrong decision, they presumably paid bill callahan a ton of money to steal him away from the cowboys, and rob ryan/jim tomsula/ray horton were all head coaching candidates at one point, and then kevin o'connell/matt cavanaugh are both sean mcvey-adjacent coaches that the front office already sort of pissed off by shuffling between OC and 'senior offensive assistant'. I see like 2 or 3 of these guys staying
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Sep 27, 2019 21:55
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Am I crazy thinking Jay Gruden could easily get another HC job if/when Washington fires him? I know odds are he goes straight to OC or something for John.
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Sep 27, 2019 22:42
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He'll probably get some interviews but he is the boringest of retreads with no playoff wins so my guess is he'll have to spend some time as an OC again.
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Sep 27, 2019 23:15
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his offenses haven't been great and he's kind of an rear end in a top hat. there's plenty of mitigating circumstances but i think he's gotta have a prove-it year as an OC.
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Sep 27, 2019 23:29
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Am I crazy thinking Jay Gruden could easily get another HC job if/when Washington fires him? I know odds are he goes straight to OC or something for John. Not crazy at all.
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Sep 27, 2019 23:33
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I wouldn't mind the Jags kicking Jay's tires, tbh
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Sep 27, 2019 23:35
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It's gonna be funny when they hire a crappy McVay clone after they already had the real McVay in the building and let him get away. ANYWAY: WEEK 4 RANKINGS COOL Bill Belichick, New England Patriots Sean McDermott, Buffalo Bills John Harbaugh, Baltimore Ravens Frank Reich, Indianapolis Colts Bill O'Brien, Houston Texans Mike Vrabel, Tennessee Titans Andy Reid, Kansas City Chiefs Anthony Lynn, Los Angeles Chargers Jon Gruden, Oakland Raiders Doug Pederson, Philadelphia Eagles Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys Pat Shurmur, New York Giants Mike Zimmer, Minnesota Vikings Matt Nagy, Chicago Bears Matt Patricia, Detroit Lions Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints Sean McVay, Los Angeles Rams Pete Carroll, Seattle Seahawks Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco 49ers BOB refuses to go away and I'm tired of talking about him, so he stays here for the foreseeable future (and the Texans are pretty good anyway). Shurmur probably bought himself another year or two depending on how Danny Dimes does. Patricia still isn't impressing me but if the Lions stay above .500, he's safe. Vrabel and the Titans will be in a world of hurt if they fall behind in an AFC South that's been more competitive than expected. FIRST-YEAR COACHES Adam Gase, New York Jets Brian Flores, Miami Dolphins Freddie Kitchens, Cleveland Browns Zac Taylor, Cincinnati Bengals Vic Fangio, Denver Broncos Matt LaFleur, Green Bay Packers Bruce Arians, Tampa Bay Buccaneers Kliff Kingsbury, Arizona Cardinals Early returns have not been promising for this year's class. Kliffy's offense can be best described as "work in progress," LaFleur and Aaron Rodgers already look like an awkward fit, Kitchens is predictably in over his head, Gase is still Gase, and poor Brian Flores got stuck with the mortgage after a housing bubble crash. I'm not ready to predict any one-and-dones yet, though Kitchens is the obvious choice if the Browns continue faceplanting in what was supposed to be a win-now year. MILD Mike Tomlin, Pittsburgh Steelers -- There are plenty of reasons to think Tomlin is safe -- Big Ben's injury gives him the ultimate mulligan, he has the history and respect of his bosses, and he works for a proudly old-school organization that has literally never fired a head coach. They'll likely grit their teeth and go 6-10 and try again next year. But there's still a tiny part of my brain that can see the team completely bottoming out and Tomlin choosing his own fate with a "mutually agreed to part ways" scenario. It's probably not happening and maybe I'm just wasting words here, but we'll see. Doug Marrone, Jacksonville Jaguars -- MinshewMania kinda feels like a forced meme to me -- I loved the guy at Washington State, but c'mon NFL media, get a grip. That said, he's one of the big reasons why Marrone's seat isn't hotter, the other one being a revived defense that stole Tennessee's lunch money last Thursday. The Jalen Ramsey saga still looms large over the franchise, but their season is far from over. Ron Rivera, Carolina Panthers -- It looked like the Panthers were dead and buried after starting off 0-2 and losing Cam Newton indefinitely. But Kyle Allen's shockingly great performance has given them a pulse again, and if he keeps it up, that could flip the narrative on their season. The NFC South is suddenly wide open with Brees out and the Falcons struggling (more on them in a minute), so Carolina has a golden chance to take advantage here. It would certainly cool off Ron's seat if Allen doesn't end up being a one-week fluke. Dan Quinn, Atlanta Falcons -- Three weeks in and I still have the same questions about the Falcons. They're a Julio Jones miracle away from starting 0-3, and their two losses weren't nearly as close as the final scores indicate. This team just seems directionless right now, playing flat, uninspired football. Quinn will quickly move up the rankings if they don't improve, because there's too much talent to not at least be in the playoff picture. MODERATE I've been admittedly conservative on my rankings early on, with a lot of teams still in wait-and-see mode. So no Moderates this week, but that should change soon as the calendar flips to October. SPICY HOT Jay Gruden, Washington -- Monday's embarrassment should've been the end for Case Keenum, but it wouldn't be Washington without some good-old-fashioned front office drama. Supposedly Gruden isn't ready to throw Dwayne Haskins in there, while there are reports that he wasn't on board with drafting Haskins at all. It probably doesn't matter either way, because I'll be shocked if Gruden is still here by Thanksgiving. He's the early frontrunner to be the first midseason firing this year. Benne fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 28, 2019 |
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Sep 28, 2019 00:33
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I think the only thing keeping Gruden hotter than Quinn is Snyder. Quinn got to fire both his offensive and defensive coordinator and stick around. He has to be about dead at this point.
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Sep 28, 2019 01:08
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FizFashizzle posted:I think the only thing keeping Gruden hotter than Quinn is Snyder. Yeah, Quinn and Gruden are toast. Kitchens is a likely one-and-done. Arians is old and mercurial and is a candidate for "mutually agreed to part ways." Also, Benne, I think you're being way too conservative with Gase and Fangio (the latter of whom looks to be completely overmatched and it makes me think there's a reason he whiffed every head coaching interview he got for years).
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Sep 28, 2019 20:35
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Fangio may get the benefit of the doubt for his long track record of being a great DC, and because Denver’s biggest issues are on offense. Unless they finish with 3-4 wins and are getting annihilated every week, he’ll get at least a second season like Vance Joseph did, if only because the only way Elway will never admit he made a bad choice that quickly is if it’s a massive and spectacular loving failure.
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Sep 28, 2019 20:40
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A defense where Chubb and Von Miller have 0 sacks. Fangio should be 1 and done if this keeps up
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Sep 28, 2019 21:24
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