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Catching up with the thread today. This: is a perfect call-and-response example of liberals and their 'I don't have an ideology  '. He literally acknowledges that the policy is good but dismisses the thinking, feeling and morality that led to it because the word for a mix of those things that lets you form policy is 'ideology' and that's bad.'Unable to think outside its ideological blinkers' has to be code for 'Won't capitulate to the right on everything we ask like New Labour did.'
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Though Im not sure how electorally smart it is I do hope the leadership go all in on pro immigration as a contrast to the other parties. it's one of the main things I liked about Corbyn in the leadership hustings. He was literally the only person saying anything positive about immigrants.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:56
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Diet Crack posted:"The BBC has upheld a complaint that BBC Breakfast presenter Naga Munchetty exhibited “bias” by inferring that Donald Trump was racist." This, however, is not bias: LauraK posted:Downing Street at this stage seems to have no intention of doing anything other than toughing this out.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:56
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This owns
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Sep 25, 2019 11:56
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I do like how there's a pre-presidency Trump tweet for everything. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/474134260149157888?s=21
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Sep 25, 2019 11:58
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Sep 25, 2019 11:58
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Too loving right 
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Sep 25, 2019 11:58
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Jose posted:the lib dems are trying to bring the extension request date forward Of course they are. Because the blame for us not leaving the EU with a deal cannot possibly be allowed to rest on their party leader, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:58
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FiftySeven posted:Not happening this week because they need 3 days to submit questions and whatnot. Pfft weak
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Sep 25, 2019 11:58
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Tesseraction posted:Fair, but in this case I am 99% certain she has used the generic before, and the pharmacist did eventually relent the next day. Just to clarify what happened here was the prescription for the brand because of it was a pharmacy is not legally allowed to switch to a generic because we have to give the item on the form otherwise we won't get reimbursed.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:59
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Though Im not sure how electorally smart it is I do hope the leadership go all in on pro immigration as a contrast to the other parties.
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Sep 25, 2019 11:59
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Flayer posted:I think electorally it may well be smart. People who are heavily anti-immigration are very likely to vote Tory or Brexit whatever Labour does so the amount of votes lost on this won't be that significant. On the other side of the coin this plays massively to the classic Labour base and may energise more people to come out and vote, especially young people. Also may work to outflank the decreasingly liberal Lib Dems.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:00
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Darth Walrus posted:I think the main thing is that Arcuri may be a very smart, accomplished woman, but the odds on that being why Boris Johnson in particular approached her are basically zero. It implies a respect for women's value and intelligence that he has never shown the slightest evidence of possessing. Darth Walrus posted:Also may work to outflank the decreasingly liberal Lib Dems.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:04
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Darth Walrus posted:Also may work to outflank the decreasingly liberal Lib Dems.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:06
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Aidan_702 posted:
It was an awesome brooch though. Obviously all the 'hidden message' stuff is bollocks, but it was an objectively cool brooch. She has quite the collection apparently.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:07
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D. Ebdrup posted:Have they ever been either liberal or democratic? Under Charles Kennedy, at least.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:07
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Flayer posted:I think electorally it may well be smart. People who are heavily anti-immigration are very likely to vote Tory or Brexit whatever Labour does so the amount of votes lost on this won't be that significant. On the other side of the coin this plays massively to the classic Labour base and may energise more people to come out and vote, especially young people. All the studies showed that new labour moving right on immigration just made the country more racist but not affecting their polling/votes. People who hate immigration aren't going to trust a party chasing that vote when there is an already racist party
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Sep 25, 2019 12:08
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Red Oktober posted:It was an awesome brooch though. Obviously all the 'hidden message' stuff is bollocks, but it was an objectively cool brooch. She has quite the collection apparently. That she has a collection of brooches was number one on the BBC's list of five things you must know about Lady Hale. I don;t know what 2-4 were. Utter trash journalism.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:09
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Flayer posted:I think electorally it may well be smart. People who are heavily anti-immigration are very likely to vote Tory or Brexit whatever Labour does so the amount of votes lost on this won't be that significant. On the other side of the coin this plays massively to the classic Labour base and may energise more people to come out and vote, especially young people. Yeah I can definitely see an angle where it pays off. Since it's a gamble either way I'd prefer to be gambling on the side of yknow justice and truth and all that instead of gambling on triangulation
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Sep 25, 2019 12:10
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sweet im gonna be a lazy freeloader immigratn once corb takes over
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Sep 25, 2019 12:10
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Darth Walrus posted:Under Charles Kennedy, at least. Jose posted:All the studies showed that new labour moving right on immigration just made the country more racist but not affecting their polling/votes. People who hate immigration aren't going to trust a party chasing that vote when there is an already racist party
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Sep 25, 2019 12:10
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Darth Walrus posted:Under Charles Kennedy, at least. The was largely due to the increasingly authoritarian swing of New Labour. Though it was also the height of the social democratic wing of the party before the Orange Bookers took over
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Sep 25, 2019 12:14
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Labour messed up when they didn’t throw Enoch Powell in prison.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:14
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I dunno, you guys, the libdems seem more Liberal than ever before
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Sep 25, 2019 12:14
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The Attorney General is absolutely snarling and raging right now. Calling parliament cowardly, calling it a disgrace, a 'dead parliament' that has no right to sit.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:15
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"This Parliament is a disgrace", Geoffrey Cox is getting very shouty and mad because the Opposition won't call a vote of no confidence in the government he serves in. It's a bit surreal.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:15
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Chuka Umana posted:Labour messed up when they didn’t throw Enoch Powell in prison. I just noticed your custom text and I am very happy
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Sep 25, 2019 12:15
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Sweet jesus Geoffrey's weetabix must have kicked in
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Sep 25, 2019 12:16
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HopperUK posted:The Attorney General is absolutely snarling and raging right now. Calling parliament cowardly, calling it a disgrace, a 'dead parliament' that has no right to sit. Who is the AG atm? Or in general really. The governments lawyer? He must be doing a bang up job haha
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Sep 25, 2019 12:17
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Hentai Jihadist posted:I dunno, you guys, the libdems seem more Liberal than ever before Looks at 19th century - I mean, eh.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:17
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I never thought I'd see a government begging to be put out of its misery like this but it's pretty funny.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:17
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Who is the AG atm? Or in general really. Yes. Geoffrey Cox. He sits in cabinet and advises the government legally. Like when a previous Labour AG declared the Iraq War legal. Howls of derision.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:19
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HopperUK posted:I never thought I'd see a government begging to be put out of its misery like this but it's pretty funny. 
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Sep 25, 2019 12:20
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forkboy84 posted:Yes. Geoffrey Cox. He sits in cabinet and advises the government legally. Like when a previous Labour AG declared the Iraq War legal. Howls of derision. Wasn't he found to be in contempt of parliament. Bang up commendation for a government lawyer, that.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:20
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Rumda posted:Just to clarify what happened here was the prescription for the brand because of it was a pharmacy is not legally allowed to switch to a generic because we have to give the item on the form otherwise we won't get reimbursed. I'll ask. Thanks to you and Hopper for responses.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:22
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I like that Barry Sheehan character. Very very mad
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Sep 25, 2019 12:22
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Assumed this was a Photoshop until I googled it. So that's where that comes from 
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Sep 25, 2019 12:23
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"This parliament should have the courage to face the electorate. But it won’t because so many of them are about preventing us leaving the European Union. But the time is coming when even these turkeys won’t be able to prevent Christmas." Does he know what turkeys are, and that Christmas is bad for them?
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Sep 25, 2019 12:23
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tag urself I'm Boney
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HopperUK posted:I never thought I'd see a government begging to be put out of its misery like this but it's pretty funny. "Punch me in the tits. Destroy me." - The Government
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