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fauna posted:if things continue on their current path i think we really will get some beautiful and harmonious communes springing up in time from the ashes if things continue on their current path we'll all be loving dead when the resource war goes nuclear (the world's poor will already be dead or dying from starvation or massacre at the borders of wealthier states)
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Amethyst posted:How are you dummies still spouting nonsense about the march of history after all this time? I don't believe that socialism is inevitable (the alternative pathway leads to fascism) but it is absolutely the correct next step. I really hope I'm reading your post wrong and you're not an end of history brokebrain
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I apologise for saying tankie earlier, I should've stuck with Maoist red guard romantic.
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Jonah Galtberg posted:if things continue on their current path we'll all be loving dead when the resource war goes nuclear (the world's poor will already be dead or dying from starvation or massacre at the borders of wealthier states) So your idea is worldwide adoption of socialism before climate change kills us all? How is deriding millions of people working towards a common goal (better climate policy) contributing to that?
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abigserve posted:So your idea is worldwide adoption of socialism before climate change kills us all? How is deriding millions of people working towards a common goal (better climate policy) contributing to that? Calling something insufficient is not derision at all you moron (that was derision however in case you wanted an example)
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Lid posted:I apologise for saying tankie earlier, I should've stuck with Maoist red guard romantic. Haha yes, I love Mao u got me 
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Sep 25, 2019 12:42
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Are competent people allowed to opt out of socialism if we don't want to participate?
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Sep 25, 2019 12:47
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Another win for abortion Open the blood gates
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Sep 25, 2019 12:48
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Jonah Galtberg posted:I wouldn’t tell kids at protest marches they’re being used, I would tell them about the ways in which capitalism is fundamentally incapable of addressing a problem like climate change and that nothing can be gained by expecting the class that is both responsible for the problem and is the most insulated from its effects to do anything about it. We’re already being prepared for ecofascism, the rich would rather rule over the post-apocalypse than give up their stranglehold on power to prevent most of the world from dying Jonah Galtberg posted:Calling something insufficient is not derision at all you moron (that was derision however in case you wanted an example) quote:the situation in which someone or something is laughed at and considered stupid or of no value:
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Sep 25, 2019 12:49
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JBP posted:Are competent people allowed to opt out of socialism if we don't want to participate? Ah, I see you're referring to the liberal fiction that success is correlated with work ethic or intellect (the answer is no)
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Sep 25, 2019 12:50
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yes, that is an accurate definition of what I am doing to you
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Sep 25, 2019 12:51
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I just have no interest in mandatory help for or from others. It's called freedom.
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Sep 25, 2019 12:51
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JBP posted:I just have no interest in mandatory help for or from others. It's called freedom. yeah go and ask a homeless person or someone working minimum wage about how free they feel
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Sep 25, 2019 12:53
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it's understandable that you have internalised the logic of the system however, it's what you need to do to survive in it
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Sep 25, 2019 12:54
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Jonah Galtberg posted:pretty bold assumption that I'm "not contributing" btw it may be bold but it is nevertheless correct
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Sep 25, 2019 13:12
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BBJoey posted:it may be bold but it is nevertheless correct it is not correct, but I will not be providing details (not some dumbshit ~opsec~ thing, I just don’t feel like getting that much into IRL personal details) do with that what you will
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I also find it a bit depressing that the focus on Greta seems to be about how brave she is and how dare Fox News call her bad names, but the climate strikes are undoubtedly motivating a tonne of people. I don't see striking and protests as within the sphere of acceptable disagreement and at the very least it's good practice and network building so I can't be against it.
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Sep 25, 2019 13:38
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JBP posted:I just have no interest in mandatory help for or from others. It's called freedom. wow, I knew Australia was full of morons, but I didn't know it was specifically full of Objectivist morons makes me feel slightly better about our Brexiteer morons, but only slightly
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Sep 25, 2019 22:42
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Phew, we may not survive the climate crisis but at least we will be further along in agreeing on what type of government and economic system to use when it happens.
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Venomous posted:wow, I knew Australia was full of morons, but I didn't know it was specifically full of Objectivist morons One person posting disingenuously on sa is a country full of people. Please give me your opinion on the popularity of Jeremy Corbyn. Les Affaires posted:Phew, we may not survive the climate crisis but at least we will be further along in agreeing on what type of government and economic system to use when it happens. It's going to be some never before seen corpo governance because they're going to have invested like $900b stopping climate change by 2030 and governments will still have done nothing, causing them to be abandoned. JBP fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Sep 25, 2019 23:46
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The philosophers have merely changed the world, the point is to criticise these efforts endlessly.
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Sep 26, 2019 00:07
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Sure am glad we sent scomo to the US to get one on one Demagoguery lessons from a wanna be tin pot dictator, https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/26/scott-morrison-says-australias-record-on-climate-change-misrepresented-by-media Hang tight for more classics such as 'fake news' and 'witch hunt' coming soon to a Twitter near you.
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JBP posted:Are competent people allowed to opt out of socialism if we don't want to participate? Are competent people allowed to opt out of capitalism if we don't want to participate?
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Jonah Galtberg posted:pretty bold assumption that I'm "not contributing" btw
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Sep 26, 2019 01:14
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it's greta thursday my dudes
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NSW is still poo poo because they were L A S T
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Sep 26, 2019 01:30
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Oh god no https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/weird-a-glimpse-through-the-negative-interest-rate-looking-glass-20190925-p52uua.html
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Sep 26, 2019 01:35
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finally the infanticide I crave, and on demand too
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Sep 26, 2019 01:39
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Lid posted:Oh god no I don't see how this wouldn't be political poison. Like some politician would make their career by campaigning on the abolition of the independent reserve bank.
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Sep 26, 2019 01:40
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JBP posted:Are competent people allowed to opt out of socialism if we don't want to participate? Wish u'd opt out of posting
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Sep 26, 2019 02:25
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quote:Sydney archbishop says NSW #abortion laws represent "dramatic abdication of responsibility to protect the most vulnerable members of our community". The Catholic church, apparently without irony, is lecturing the rest of us on protecting the vulnerable.
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JBP posted:One person posting disingenuously on sa is a country full of people. Please give me your opinion on the popularity of Jeremy Corbyn. you assume that I wasn't posting disingenuously as well but okay. Jeremy Corbyn is popular enough that he's survived two serious coup attempts in his own party and has been a consistent leader for the past four years while the Tories have fallen apart he doesn't want to be Prime Minister, he just wants to kill the Tories and destroy Thatcher's legacy, and with the whole Brexit thing dividing the Tories he's doing an amazing job at that but the reason Corbyn is not going to win a general election in a landslide is because the British public is consistently wrong about everything, hence why 52% of the British public voted for Brexit, because we all have such horrible media literacy that we believe anything that's written on a bus, even when it's not true anyway, Corbyn is the reason that the Labour Party isn't dead and Theresa May isn't residing over a majority government, and yr guy Albanese should be a lot more like him if he wants to be Prime Minister of Australia any time soon
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/26/peter-dutton-cannabis-christian-porter-challenge-act-law-legalise-drugsquote:The federal government is considering challenging Australian Capital Territory laws legalising the recreational use of cannabis, with the home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, describing the new laws as unconscionable.
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My first car was a stick
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BBJoey posted:i loving hate the government 
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bandaid.friend posted:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/26/peter-dutton-cannabis-christian-porter-challenge-act-law-legalise-drugs As if this wasn't the foreseeable outcome the minute the decision was announced. I know my first thought was how long it's take for the feds to block it. It's what they do. See something good and want to kill it.
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Now Scummo was all smuggo about "Australia only contributes 1.3% of the worlds emissions" (Citation required btw Scummo). Sounds pretty good until you do the math and discover we are only 0.3% of the worlds population (24.5 million out of 7,750 million). Developed country and all that but it means we are disproportionately loving the planet and the more we do (per capita) the better it is for the planet (per capita). Nice own goal you post factual muppet.
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