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If they don't use this opportunity to get his taxes I'll be severely disappointed
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What the gently caress. You're already taking a shot at him. Take your best shot.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:If they don't use this opportunity to get his taxes I'll be severely disappointed I feel like a literal act of god would be required to get those at this point.
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skylined! posted:Apparently trump is using more mob pressure tactics to get Zalensky to exonerate him. Amazing. Oh how great would it be if he said, in full view of everyone, something like "tell them I didn't withhold funds or we won't sell you the missiles."
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It really, really sucks to be the Ukrainian president next to Trump right now and, for an actor, he's not doing much to hide that fact from his face.
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Angry_Ed posted:Wow that sure sounds like consensus to me...said nobody ever. There's still no timetable given so this still doesn't mean anything yet. All the Democrat/adjacent pundits and panelists I've seen this morning are parroting the "we need to laser focus on this specific thing only" strategy 
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Is there a way to reference the other multitudinous impeachable issues that may have elements tied up in the courts in the articles without waiting for all of them to resolve entirely, or are we looking at a situation where we have to find a cutoff point somewhere because we'd run out of time on his presidency before we finished investigating crimes? Especially considering whatever Barr may do.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Man I don't envy Zelensky right now. His national defense hinges on this decidedly unhinged wannabe mobster moron with a mayfly's attention span and negative tact. What is he supposed to say? I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for whatever meeting he had last night leading up to this. Did you see his face when Trump suggested that he and Putin just sit down and work this whole thing out once and for all?
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1176927317186220033 Remember ages ago when he was saying that Hillary took the SERVER CONTAINING THE 30,000 EMAILS and washed it in acid, thereby destroying the emails forever?
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CommieGIR posted:https://www.thenation.com/article/mike-pence-is-still-to-blame-for-an-hiv-outbreak-in-indiana-but-for-new-reasons/ Despite coming from Reddit, this is a pretty solid breakdown on why Pence was pretty disliked as governor in Indiana. https://www.reddit.com/r/Indiana/comments/4u6qfr/z/d5ng4e0
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:Is there a way to reference the other multitudinous impeachable issues that may have elements tied up in the courts in the articles without waiting for all of them to resolve entirely, or are we looking at a situation where we have to find a cutoff point somewhere because we'd run out of time on his presidency before we finished investigating crimes? Especially considering whatever Barr may do. Since when do impeachment proceedings care about stuff that's in courts anyway?
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Memnaelar posted:It really, really sucks to be the Ukrainian president next to Trump right now and, for an actor, he's not doing much to hide that fact from his face. Probably advantageous for him to NOT look comfortable next to him, tbh.
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Nail Rat posted:What the gently caress. You're already taking a shot at him. Take your best shot. This strategy only makes sense if they think the Ukraine evidence is both fantastically good, and not something Trump can meaningfully obstruct. If it looks like everything else can drag on indefinitely, and you've got an ace in the hole you think is a  all by itself, I guess there's no reason to wait on the other poo poo.
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OddObserver posted:Since when do impeachment proceedings care about stuff that's in courts anyway? the efforts to get the evidence to prove certain stuff is tied up in courts
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So this press conference is going swimmingly I see. https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/1176926704683626496 https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/1176927425936183302 https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/1176927766505238528 https://twitter.com/NoahCRothman/status/1176925272244989952?s=20
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Majorian posted:Probably advantageous for him to NOT look comfortable next to him, tbh. He looked like he wanted to crawl into a hole when Trump said he and Putin should get together.
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JerikTelorian posted:Depends. Trump is only worth it as long as he is useful. He's already not looking super useful going into 2020, and if there is a risk of this being a case through spring and possibly summer of 2020 they might dump him to try and claim some high ground and hold the senate. Throwing Trump under the bus(or more accurately leaving him to his fate) for Pence would go over like a wet fart. They've had the good stuff and Pence's milquetoast social conservatism isn't going to cut it anymore. Republican turnout would be abysmal. edit: Also a reminder that Zelensky is a stand up comedian that won as a literal and figurative joke candidate. What an utterly bizarre situation he must find himself in. lurker2006 fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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Flesh Forge posted:All the Democrat/adjacent pundits and panelists I've seen this morning are parroting the "we need to laser focus on this specific thing only" strategy Anything broader and some of their people might get caught up in the festivities
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I don't know why the Democrats wouldn't want to drag this out for next 3-4 months, he is gonna be this unhinged constantly, Make him react to you for once
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sean10mm posted:This strategy only makes sense if they think the Ukraine evidence is both fantastically good, and not something Trump can meaningfully obstruct. If it looks like everything else can drag on indefinitely, and you've got an ace in the hole you think is a Pretty much the thinking, it sounds like. The GOP is going to be dragged through this kicking and screaming and will likely sue to stop every subpoena that crosses their line of sight. Restricting it might make impeachment possible by 2030.
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Flesh Forge posted:All the Democrat/adjacent pundits and panelists I've seen this morning are parroting the "we need to laser focus on this specific thing only" strategy Ok cool. It still doesn't change the fact that the initial tweet from Politico 1. Referenced an article that didn't say what the tweet was saying until 2. It was edited in 10 minutes later and 3. Still doesn't undo the fact that (as of this moment) there is no consensus on this, that there is no timetable, that Maxine Waters is still investigating financial crimes, etc. With the addition of the issue of the other charges against trump being tied up in the courts wheras Ukraine is not, I get why they're considering this tactic. I don't even agree with it, but I also don't agree with taking tweets at face value from anywhere, especially goddamn politico. That it "became" true post-facto doesn't make shooting from the hip any better.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/1176926704683626496  "Please cover my tracks"
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AHAHAHAHA "Nancy Pelosi is no longer the speaker of the house." Did....did he just try to fire Pelosi?
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The Glumslinger posted:I don't know why the Democrats wouldn't want to drag this out for next 3-4 months, he is gonna be this unhinged constantly, Make him react to you for once When do you think the end of the year is
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Did he just neg the PM of Ukraine on love TV?
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evilweasel posted:basically, a lot of the other criminality requires some digging and the trump admin is tying that digging up in the courts, but they've got all they need on ukraine That is an utterly idiotic idea, like how in the gently caress. Did these guys learn a single goddamn lesson from Russiagate? You have 6 house committees digging up poo poo right now. 6. Why don't use use all of them to stretch the GOP's defenses, and then uncover a plan B, C, and D in case the Ukraine thing falls though like Russia did? Feldegast42 fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Sep 25, 2019 |
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CommieGIR posted:
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Angry_Ed posted:Ok cool. It still doesn't change the fact that the initial tweet from Politico By laser focusing exclusively on the one issue for impeachment, the Dems could be hampering other committees' ability to investigate other issues effectively. I don't know that that's necessarily what they're going to do, but if it is, that would be a mistake.
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theflyingorc posted:When do you think the end of the year is Time is relative man 
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Edmund Lava posted:Did he just neg the PM of Ukraine on love TV? He also told him that he should get together with Putin to resolve their differences.
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theflyingorc posted:When do you think the end of the year is Drag it out for the next 13 months, imo.
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