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this link is a bit timelier than my last one, it's from 2014. it came from anu but i've never seen it linked anywhere so might be new to some of you too, it's blowing my mind. they knew exactly what was going on and even how to fix it back in the 80s and the ideas received bipartisan promotion, in the early 90s australians were judged the best-informed in the world on the issue of climate change (or the greenhouse effect, as it was called back then) but then it was just magically wiped from our collective perception and memory by very deliberate media sorcery global warming and climate change: what australia knew, and buried
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thatfatkid posted:Not to mention that western nations have outsourced their manufacturing to "developing nations" like China so that they take the blame for those emissions. And then at the same time Australia's economy is heavily dependent on exporting resources to China. Love that neo-colonial mindset. No no China is a developed nation now! That means they have to do more to curb emissions. Ignore that their GDP per capita is 15% that of Australia.
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 12:54 |
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JBP posted:I wish George was in charge again tbh he seemed nice on a personal level your brain spiders are reaching critical mass!
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 13:18 |
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jbp throws out the laziest bait and you all fight to be the first one to get hooked
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 13:19 |
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im not hooked your hooked
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 13:22 |
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I just earnestly post my feelings.
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 13:36 |
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fauna posted:this link is a bit timelier than my last one, it's from 2014. it came from anu but i've never seen it linked anywhere so might be new to some of you too, it's blowing my mind. they knew exactly what was going on and even how to fix it back in the 80s and the ideas received bipartisan promotion, in the early 90s australians were judged the best-informed in the world on the issue of climate change (or the greenhouse effect, as it was called back then) but then it was just magically wiped from our collective perception and memory by very deliberate media sorcery quote:Cognitive scientist George Lakoff applied this understanding to techniques used in politics and by public relations practitioners to reinforce certain ideas and values. A common technique is to tap into a metaphorical pathway that has positive emotional values, such as freedom, home or family, in order to frame how to think about things (Lakoff 2004).
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you know how charismatic preachers who earn loads of money from their congregation are always top salesmen who know exactly what their audience want and manipulate their religious faith to whip them into a complete emotional frenzy? that's where scomo learnt it from, but he's not servicing that audience, he's working on one that wants National interest, jobs, family, battlers, Australian working families, Australian mums and dads
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i hope i survive to read scomo's and dutton's kids' tell-all memoirs in ~2050 because i can only imagine their personal lives are hilariously hosed
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 13:46 |
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Die on that miserable hill already Bolt. And have a small, sad funeral officiated by Pell via video conference from his cell.
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paul loving keating lolquote:Also revealing where the country was headed was a November 1989 report, again in the Financial Review, that the Treasury under Paul Keating—in an internal argument about emission reduction targets—was advocating the position that Australia could increase its pollution as a specialist energy user.
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 14:21 |
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john loving piss poo poo howardquote:The national broadcaster, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)—which in the early 1990s had led the way with comprehensive science coverage of greenhouse gas emission risks and response strategies—became increasingly dominated by a conservative board of directors appointed by the Howard government (Dempster 2005). The ABC then largely restricted itself to amplifying the political story spun by the federal government (or the opposition), reporting issues framed through the echo chamber of the parliamentary press gallery.
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it somehow makes me angrier that they're all little men and if i had them right in front of me i could kill them with my bare hands. and i would, i swear, i would
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fauna posted:you know how charismatic preachers who earn loads of money from their congregation are always top salesmen who know exactly what their audience want and manipulate their religious faith to whip them into a complete emotional frenzy? that's where scomo learnt it from, but he's not servicing that audience, he's working on one that wants National interest, jobs, family, battlers, Australian working families, Australian mums and dads fauna posted:all of you people go read the drat book frank herbert wrote a book titled the santaroga barrier in 1968 that talks about this sort of thing. ostensibly its about a small-town cheese cult in california but really its about the battle between the people who advertise and the people who the advertising is aimed out. thanks for the link i will read it.
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 14:54 |
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Lmao, The Today Show is on at Hungry Jack's and the story at the moment is "Time to Shine" Helping children with climate change depression. Their advice? Play football Go outside Get Friends Not a joke
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Foolish. The children can no longer be mollified by simply kicking the footy, they have been bewitched by the old magic https://twitter.com/FDRLST/status/1177236386296078336
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 22:14 |
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Climate change? You're too young for that stuff. Go play footy or something aye?
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 22:26 |
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Making stupid old boomers feel better about themselves by giving them a list of hopeless ways to make their resentful children feel better about themselves.
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 22:42 |
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It's ok, selfish, world destroying boomer. Your son doesn't talk to you anymore not becuase you and the rest of your generation are assholes, it's because they don't play enough football.
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# ? Sep 26, 2019 22:43 |
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I too appreciate surface level advice that does nothing to help the core difficulties.
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The Peccadillo posted:Foolish. The children can no longer be mollified by simply kicking the footy, they have been bewitched by the old magic Good crop of brain worms this year.
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Apparently there is a new road rule in NSW: the speed limit is 40 when passing an emergency vehicle on the side of the road that has lights flashing. Only applies to limits 80 or lower.
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Zenithe posted:Apparently there is a new road rule in NSW: the speed limit is 40 when passing an emergency vehicle on the side of the road that has lights flashing. Only applies to limits 80 or lower. IIRC it was already a thing (or so my mum says) and the new part is the "only on 90 or lower roads" thing I'm probably wrong though
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Yeah last year they introduced the requirement to slow to 40 near parked emergency vehicles with flashing lights. Turns out making people suddenly brake on fast roads is a bad idea so they put a limit on it.
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# ? Sep 27, 2019 00:03 |
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remember this lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDYla-gjgRs
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# ? Sep 27, 2019 00:59 |
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AusPol: Brought to you by the Rockhampton Morning Bulletin Today's topic: Gretta YoU hAtE sOcIeTy AnD yEt YoU aRe PaRt Of It There is some though.
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# ? Sep 27, 2019 01:06 |
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Thunberg owns so hard man lol. Look at all of those insane hateful idiots coming out into the open.
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Amethyst posted:remember this lol No and I wish it had stayed that way
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In a weird way it’s comforting that their advice for crippling depression and late stage capital failure are so similar since they seem so linked
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Greta Thunbeug
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Forgive me if I am stating the obvious here, or if this comes across as a hot take(tm). But it is not about Climate Change at all. It is all about boomers, and how they hate and fear change. Also how they view any attack, (real or perceived) on them or their comfortable unsustainable lifestyle as literal Evil. And how they are very easily whipped into a frothing irrational frenzy against "gay satanic communist baby raping homosexual muslims" etc. It's also a tribal Left vs Right thing. The science is clear, and universally accepted. But because it is perceived as a "left wing" issue, the right will fight it tooth and nail and wrap themselves into all sorts of contortions to prove that they are right and the greenie commos are wrong. Like I never understood why Climate Change was one of Bolt's bugbears, but it makes sense if you can use 'Climate Change' as a dogwhistle for "young people and progressive change for the better". Then his rants make more sense in terms of ideology. Then there is this new tactic of "Hey young person, you are sad and angry that the world is being actively destroyed. Well the real problem must be that you are sad and angry. Cheer up and play some footy whilst we continue to actively and aggressively gently caress the planet. What? you aren't happy yet? Must be communist brainwashing in schools." I hate it so much.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Forgive me if I am stating the obvious here, or if this comes across as a hot take(tm).
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# ? Sep 27, 2019 02:34 |
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Climate change is a left wing issue. Climate action will affect company bottom lines while lack of action will mainly affect the poor.
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# ? Sep 27, 2019 02:51 |
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Amethyst posted:Climate change is a left wing issue. Climate action will affect company bottom lines while lack of action will mainly affect the poor. Not if you're a climate change company.
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JBP posted:Not if you're a climate change company. Hmmmmmmmmm. Brb business plans
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Really is astounding how handily and rapidly it's been made into primarily a Culture War over the past few months, instead of undercurrented by
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The Peccadillo posted:Really is astounding how handily and rapidly it's been made into Culture War over the past few months ??? This has been a culture ware issue for years and years and years. "An Inconvenient Truth" is 13 years old. Remember all the stupid editorials and hissy fits over that? I do.
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# ? Sep 27, 2019 03:06 |
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The Simpsons Movie is about climate change hehe
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https://www.smh.com.au/national/i-wont-sign-kyoto-agreement-pm-20040527-gdj04c.htmlquote:"Australia won't ratify the Kyoto Protocol until the ratification of that protocol will protect the long-term national interests of this country," Mr Howard told parliament. 2004. Same bullshit excuses, same conversation.
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reading that book posted before what strikes me is how certain they were in 1988quote:Consider this 1988 article in the business-focused Australian Financial Review, aptly titled ‘Government officials start to feel the climate of change’: the national party went on to join with the queensland liberal party to become the liberal national party of today. i knew scientifically it was a settled issue and i knew the controversy around it was entirely a creation of capital but i didnt realize the extent of the reversal of opinion on it.
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