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mark levin is master shake.
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skylined! posted:This is uh pretty transparent, no? https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1177623459771437056?s=19
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Sep 27, 2019 17:55
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Americans are dumb and war did wonders for Bush's approval ratings in the short term, so I fully suspect the R's to rush headlong into military action.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:56
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Shouldn't that be "What Obama did to Khadaffi"?
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Sep 27, 2019 17:56
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skylined! posted:This is uh pretty transparent, no? Keep wagging the dog, fuckstick.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:57
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ryde posted:Americans are dumb and war did wonders for Bush's approval ratings in the short term, so I fully suspect the R's to rush headlong into military action. Yeah but Saddam Hussein did 9/11, Bashir Al-Assad didn't What I mean is the narratives were set up in the media and by the Bush administration that they were linked, not really of course
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Sep 27, 2019 17:58
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ryde posted:Americans are dumb and war did wonders for Bush's approval ratings in the short term, so I fully suspect the R's to rush headlong into military action. wars also imploded johnson after he won one of the most lopsided elections in history and promising to end the war helped usher in another president in a landslide.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:58
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Welp. I guess they’re gonna start world war 3 over this. Like the scorched earth letter
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Sep 27, 2019 17:59
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skylined! posted:This is uh pretty transparent, no? Yup. Pompeo was also wildly rattling the saber at Iran during Trump's presser the other day, but most people didn't notice, because, ya know.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:00
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Someone itt asked about the thread's opinion of Killer Mike and TI last week or around then. Sooooooo https://twitter.com/revrrlewis/status/1177598792885030912
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Sep 27, 2019 18:00
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skylined! posted:This is uh pretty transparent, no? Pulling that play out of the book.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:01
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ryde posted:Americans are dumb and war did wonders for Bush's approval ratings in the short term, so I fully suspect the R's to rush headlong into military action. The war itself ended up being a pretty major drag on Bush's approval as it wound on. He won in 2004 because he was still coasting fumes from 9/11. W went into Iraq with 60% approval and was uniquely positioned to tie the war to 9/11. Trump, to say the least, is not so blessed. That's not to say that Trump isn't deranged enough to think he can pull it off, but it wouldn't work to his political advantage.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:01
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ryde posted:Americans are dumb and war did wonders for Bush's approval ratings in the short term, so I fully suspect the R's to rush headlong into military action. They may try as a literal “Wag the Dog” distraction but no, no one wants a war outside of the craziest of neo-cons. Even CHUDs are mostly against sending actual boots to die. Trump does seem (surprisingly) self aware that an actual war would be bad for him even if, diplomatically speaking, his administration is doing everything to start one.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:03
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skylined! posted:This is uh pretty transparent, no? graham would be yelling this either way, so its not really new. Majorian posted:Yup. Pompeo was also wildly rattling the saber at Iran during Trump's presser the other day, but most people didn't notice, because, ya know. yeah this admin isn't smart enough to wag the dog. also trump would ruin it hard.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:03
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Flip Yr Wig posted:The war itself ended up being a pretty major drag on Bush's approval as it wound on. He won in 2004 because he was still coasting fumes from 9/11. W went into Iraq with 60% approval and was uniquely positioned to tie the war to 9/11. Trump, to say the least, is not so blessed. TRUMP HIMSELF is constantly railing on pointless wars right now. I don't think fighting Iran would help him.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:03
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Solaris 2.0 posted:They may try as a literal “Wag the Dog” distraction but no, no one wants a war outside of the craziest of neo-cons. Even CHUDs are mostly against sending actual boots to die. yeah, trump loves bombing and big gestures and if he knew he could win a war easy and out right gulf war style. he would try. but any war that he starts would be a giant poo poo horror show.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:05
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We've been lucky that Trump has been comparatively risk adverse when it comes to the military, despite his bloody inclinations. As his mental decline accelerates, that might change, but who the hell knows.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:07
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https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1177596229695332353 Pelosi remains loving useless.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:08
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Mooseontheloose posted:To expand, how do you defend: Extortion, not bribery
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Sep 27, 2019 18:11
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Solaris 2.0 posted:They may try as a literal “Wag the Dog” distraction but no, no one wants a war outside of the craziest of neo-cons. Even CHUDs are mostly against sending actual boots to die. And honestly, Trump kinda ran on a populist anti-war platform which honestly probably got him a non-zero number of votes from people who knew Hillary was a war hawk. So there’s at least a portion of his base that is anti-war and “America first!” that would be turned off by him starting a war.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:12
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Flip Yr Wig posted:We've been lucky that Trump has been comparatively risk adverse when it comes to the military, despite his bloody inclinations. As his mental decline accelerates, that might change, but who the hell knows. Trump's interest dies as soon as he's told that no, nuking this target would be a bad idea. He really wants to push a big red button and my pet theory is that they made all of the codes incredibly long right now so that he can't memorize them, thus preventing the use of nukes.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:12
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TulliusCicero posted:What defense could they possibly produce? The President himself and his lawyer are confessing and everything is true, the witness is a CIA officer who has no reason to stick their neck out except "holy poo poo crimes" What do you mean by hosed? You think republican senators care?
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Sep 27, 2019 18:12
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mcmagic posted:https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1177596229695332353 i don't really see what she did wrong here. also the article is kinda crap. plus its a day old and out of date.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:13
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Oracle posted:Extortion, not bribery The extortion was the funds he withheld, the bribery is the reported extra funds that were authorized afterwards.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:13
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Taerkar posted:Trump's interest dies as soon as he's told that no, nuking this target would be a bad idea. Imagine telling him that no one can launch without the pass phrase, and that he has to wait 48 hours for it to be reset if he forgot it. Someone give that IT guy a Medal of Freedom.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:13
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ryde posted:Americans are dumb and war did wonders for Bush's approval ratings in the short term, so I fully suspect the R's to rush headlong into military action. This is not a great analysis. This isn't justification for the war in Iraq but the 9/11 terror attacks were the first time the American mainland had been attacked since 1812? Manufacturing a war when you are unpopular is very different.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:14
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Taerkar posted:The extortion was the funds he withheld, the bribery is the reported extra funds that were authorized afterwards. I am going to the L and admit I used the wrong term.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:14
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mcmagic posted:What do you mean by hosed? i think they care enough to be worried. with the mueller stuff they started yelling the second full thing dropped. with this. nothing outside the house chuds and graham.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:14
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skylined! posted:This is uh pretty transparent, no? Please tell me there is something preventing us from going to war while the president is actively being investigated.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:14
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i don't really see what she did wrong here. also the article is kinda crap. plus its a day old and out of date. There's your mistake, you read the article
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Sep 27, 2019 18:15
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Roth does a great job describing Trump because he doesn’t fall back on symbols and tropes, he just describes the man as he actually exists.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:15
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i don't really see what she did wrong here. also the article is kinda crap. plus its a day old and out of date. She's completely bungling the political strategy as usual. Instead of hearings and new dirt on Trump dominating the news for the next year she wants to get it over quickly.... For what? To pass more bills Mitch McConnell will shred? Trump should be taking a beating like he is this week for the next year and she doesn't seem to want that.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:15
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mcmagic posted:She's completely bungling the political strategy as usual. Instead of hearings and new dirt on Trump dominating the news for the next year she wants to get it over quickly.... For what? To pass more bills Mitch McConnell will shred? Trump should be taking a beating like he is this week for the next year and she doesn't seem to want that.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:17
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Stereotype posted:Roth does a great job describing Trump because he doesn’t fall back on symbols and tropes, he just describes the man as he actually exists. he isn't really comparable to monsters and assholes of the past. he is purely contemporary amalgamation of lovely traits. you can't even compare him really to reagan, nixon or W.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:17
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hidden_msg posted:Please tell me there is something preventing us from going to war while the president is actively being investigated. I have some bad news https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Terrorists
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Sep 27, 2019 18:17
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Stereotype posted:Roth does a great job describing Trump because he doesn’t fall back on symbols and tropes, he just describes the man as he actually exists. quote:The President of the United States just loving sits there and watches television all day long, in large part because he is on television a lot now. He is either pleased or displeased by what he sees, and he shapes his actions—and, more or less by accident, the scope and tenor of our broader national politics—in response to what he sees. Some unlucky but mostly invisible people suffer greatly as a result. Some even unluckier people might even die. They may be dying now. They may in fact be dying right outside, right now, but the program is in commercial break at the moment. William Devane is telling the people at home about gold. An octogenarian former game-show host the color of a walnut is explaining how a reverse mortgage works, kind of. https://deadspin.com/the-nfl-is-too-dumb-to-realize-that-donald-trump-is-nev-1826558748
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Sep 27, 2019 18:18
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hidden_msg posted:Please tell me there is something preventing us from going to war while the president is actively being investigated. If you think Trump is unpopular and the government is constantly on the verge of collapse, imagine what it will be like when videos of troops being blown to bits start pouring into Facebook and coffins start rolling off planes and no one even knows who we are fighting.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:18
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Mooseontheloose posted:This is not a great analysis. This isn't justification for the war in Iraq but the 9/11 terror attacks were the first time the American mainland had been attacked since 1812? People wanted blood for 9/11. I vaguely remember some SNL bit that ended with "Americans are pissed Saddam, not at you, but you'll do.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:18
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hidden_msg posted:Please tell me there is something preventing us from going to war while the president is actively being investigated. Technically speaking Congress can only authorize military action unless he claims war powers. I am not sure how far Patriot Act can extend though.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:19
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Oh phew! https://twitter.com/TPM/status/1177633470371291137
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