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Josef bugman posted:I think being in this forum technically counts. How's that? 
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Sanitary Naptime posted:It’d be dumb of them to actually go full accelerationist, but it’s effectively meaningless if the Lib Dem’s former tories and Sure but I've been saying for ages that the SNP would back up a Corbyn or Labour government to a chorus of brain genius "nah they secretly are backstabbing to let the tories in" bullshit so maybe that can stop? probably not but hey oh
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EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. IT’S THE LAWS OF ENGLAND AND WALES AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING ILLEGAL MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, THE CROWN. I BREAK EVERY LAW AND I BREAK EVERY LAW HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME COMMONLAW BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXYS MOST DANGEROUS WETHERSPOONS. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY STREET AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN ESSEX CAN STILL CALL THE POLICE. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY FLAT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng
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Sep 27, 2019 17:45
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Coohoolin posted:Sure but I've been saying for ages that the SNP would back up a Corbyn or Labour government to a chorus of brain genius "nah they secretly are backstabbing to let the tories in" bullshit so maybe that can stop? probably not but hey oh Ikr SNP or PC would never back a Tory government, nor would they let a Labour government collapse - especially not at this of all moments. 'We vote labour and get tories' is like one of the pillars of support for independence movements in the UK. Preventing a functioning labour government in the days before Brexit would be unforgiveable, especially since functioning labour governments are so rare.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:48
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Convex posted:How's that? We have an anime forum.
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Sep 27, 2019 17:49
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Munin posted:First, inevitable coalition is not inevitable, see the total lack of current coalition. Second, even if coalition having less Tories is better because it weakens their political position, their party, and their mandate. Third, FPTP is a toxic system. The only reason they're not in coalition with the Tories now is they know an election is coming, and they think hard remain will gain them seats. As soon as that is behind us, they'll be right back to it. Notice that they could form a caretaker government right now, with the purpose of achieving their alleged top priority, but they categorically refuse to do so because there is only one party they're interested in working with.
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Also on the news this morning nice to heard that cleveland police is officially a danger to the public lol.
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Convex posted:Ah, didn't think of the libel/slander thing although that's more of a civil thing rather than criminal I guess. I try not to speed at all when driving and it's surprising how relaxing long journeys are when I don't have to panic on seeing a police car or mobile speed camera. Also I don't feel there's a moral argument for saving a few minutes on a journey considering the risk I'd be putting others at. If anything drugs should become safer after legalisation, right? There's no need to make the bathtub equivalent when you can buy the real poo poo at your local head shop
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It's taken the SNP like 20 years since the opening of the Scottish parliament to convince voters that they won't risk letting the tories in if they vote SNP instead of Labour in Westminster elections. People used to vote SNP for Holyrood and Labour for Westminster, until the 2015 total collapse of Slab. They aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot and vote to bring in a tory government in some poo poo for brains accelerationist scheme.
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Convex posted:I try not to speed at all when driving and it's surprising how relaxing long journeys are when I don't have to panic on seeing a police car or mobile speed camera. Also I don't feel there's a moral argument for saving a few minutes on a journey considering the risk I'd be putting others at. speeding is incredibly loving dumb because not only is it dangerous it's also a fuckload more expensive since your fuel consumption goes way up like aside from a medical emergency or something like that there's literally never a reason to do it but some cunts just believe they're more important than the rest of us (ie Tories)
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marktheando posted:It's taken the SNP like 20 years since the opening of the Scottish parliament to convince voters that they won't risk letting the tories in if they vote SNP instead of Labour in Westminster elections. People used to vote SNP for Holyrood and Labour for Westminster, until the 2015 total collapse of Slab. Do you think if Jo Swinson had gone into SNP that she may well have been this foolish?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:At my old uni there was a group of metallers that used to haunt any alt nights the uni put on. Two were bi, one was trans, one was mixed race, one was visibly disabled and they were all varying degrees of hairball, but they were all pro-Tory. Convex posted:What laws does everyone break on a daily basis? Obtaining information likely to be useful to a terrorist because what the gently caress even is that. Do my chemistry books count? Does my bus timetable count (no because it's never right lol). Random Integer posted:Someone post the link to that study showing that most terrorist acts in the West were committed by engineers. All that proves is that the left needs to do a lot more to radicalize engineers. All the left wing engineers just smoke pot and go on about open source and 3D printed drugs though, so that might not help. Convex posted:Drug laws are dumb as hell and should be abolished. poo poo like krokodil should be cracked down on where there's a clear risk to health I guess
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Julio Cruz posted:speeding is incredibly loving dumb because not only is it dangerous it's also a fuckload more expensive since your fuel consumption goes way up But what about all of all the people who would be late for work Josef bugman posted:Do you think if Jo Swinson had gone into SNP that she may well have been this foolish? I would never overestimate Jo Swinson's political acumen.
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The problem with that question isn't "Is it okay to break the law" or even the assumption everyone does all the time it's the implicit assumption that Joris did so in the national interest.
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jo swinson possibly realises that by making Corbyn PM to call a referendum it both legitimises him to the not insane remain crowd as well as makes him actually look prime ministerial which is something the press have tried insanely hard to kill any idea of probably not though she just hates his politics the BBC have realised tehy hosed up bigly and are backpedalling fast
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Sep 27, 2019 18:08
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Julio Cruz posted:speeding is incredibly loving dumb because not only is it dangerous it's also a fuckload more expensive since your fuel consumption goes way up *yes we have 30 limits on dual carriageways far away from houses & footpaths round here. We also have a 30 limit going right past 2 primary schools in a residential area with parked cars everywhere, and gently caress that, I'm not breaking 10. Drive at a safe speed, not an arbitrary one
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Sep 27, 2019 18:15
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Jose posted:the BBC have realised tehy hosed up bigly and are backpedalling fast This is 2019, you're going to have to be a lot, *lot* more specific
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Sep 27, 2019 18:15
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Lmao WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1177348764513775616?s=19
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Sep 27, 2019 18:16
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That's come up a bunch the last few days, and I've been scratching my head over which philosophers say that, it's a pretty normal emotion. Surely they wouldn't be trying to pass of a bunch of deliberately repressive theologians from the middle ages as philosophers just to make a point. Also, y'know, the rest of it
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Borrovan posted:That's come up a bunch the last few days, and I've been scratching my head over which philosophers say that, it's a pretty normal emotion. Surely they wouldn't be trying to pass of a bunch of deliberately repressive theologians from the middle ages as philosophers just to make a point. Most philosophers don't even define "evil" in their work FFS.
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Sep 27, 2019 18:20
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Coohoolin posted:Lmao WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress I love the chain of people all coming into the thread just to share this and boggle at it anew. Munin fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Sep 27, 2019 18:20
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I’ve seen that twice and even the second time was like seeing it for the first time and having the exact same reaction and experience as described “LMAO WHAT THE gently caress?”
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Coohoolin posted:Lmao WHAT THE ACTUAL gently caress Philosophy for the insane
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Remember a couple of years ago when the polls were predicting that Labour would get slaughtered and the same exact goddamn arguments for why you shouldn't vote Labour that we see right now ITT kept popping up? Pretty good thing that people didn't listen back then, huh?
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Sep 27, 2019 18:22
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Munin posted:I love the chain of people all coming into the thread just to share this and boggle at it new. I want to img-timeline them all
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sinky posted:Lol at £31000 a year for managing a £2Billion program for the House of Saud. Yeah, especially as reading between the lines of the job description indicates that you'll be dealing with absolutely horrible people on a daily basis.
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Borrovan posted:Driving at 31mph on a deserted dual carriageway* in good weather is worse than driving at 59mph on a winter's evening on a 1 lane road because those are the arbitrary numbers assigned? you know I don't remember saying that you have to drive at exactly the speed limit at all times but you're half right, breaking the speed limit is not in fact driving at a safe speed which is one of the reasons you shouldn't do it
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Borrovan posted:That's come up a bunch the last few days, and I've been scratching my head over which philosophers say that, it's a pretty normal emotion. Surely they wouldn't be trying to pass of a bunch of deliberately repressive theologians from the middle ages as philosophers just to make a point. The core example of that would be Christianity, the system of slave morality. But, like, Nietzsche was a loving weirdo, and he probably stole that from Schopenhauer, who considered envy to be a reflection of people's own internal unhappiness. hosed up that QT audience members are channeling all these antisemites though 
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Didn't Hegel say something about slave morality too? I can't keep my boring Germans in line anymore.
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Hegel's master/slave dialectic is some damned fine philosophy tho e: Correct, even Borrovan fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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I bet Nozick said something like that, the libertarian gently caress. (who renounced his awful philosophy later in life  )Borrovan posted:That's come up a bunch the last few days, and I've been scratching my head over which philosophers say that, it's a pretty normal emotion. Surely they wouldn't be trying to pass of a bunch of deliberately repressive theologians from the middle ages as philosophers just to make a point. You know drat well that most canon philosophers are regressive middle age theologians or even worse... Ancient Greeks *shudder* Miftan fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Borrovan posted:That's come up a bunch the last few days, and I've been scratching my head over which philosophers say that, it's a pretty normal emotion. Surely they wouldn't be trying to pass of a bunch of deliberately repressive theologians from the middle ages as philosophers just to make a point. I thought it was this: Jealousy: I want to have that too Envy: I want you to not have that Makes envy a bit of a dick move imo
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Ms Adequate posted:The problem with that question isn't "Is it okay to break the law" or even the assumption everyone does all the time it's the implicit assumption that Joris did so in the national interest. I mean it's maybe a little iffy for the tory government to start suggesting that the law isn't a substitute for moral authority and we should all break it if we think it's good to JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I thought it was this: I still think the far better term for the latter is spite. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Oh my god the BBC are loving this up bad. From the Guardian's story quote:The BBC’s editorial standards director, David Jordan, attempted to defuse the situation on Friday, telling Radio 4’s Today programme that people may have “wilfully” misunderstood the nature of the ruling against Munchetty.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I thought it was this: Pretty sure it's the other way round. As in the way a jealous husband is constantly on guard for other men talking to his wife.
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OwlFancier posted:I still think the far better term for the latter is spite. Spite is when you have a thing and want others to not have it. A little different. e: Jealousy is wanting a thing that someone else has, envy is wanting a thing that someone else has while wanting them to not have it.
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Necrothatcher posted:Oh my god the BBC are loving this up bad.  Oh my word they really are bungling this one. OwlFancier posted:I mean it's maybe a little iffy for the tory government to start suggesting that the law isn't a substitute for moral authority and we should all break it if we think it's good to Fair point
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I thought it was this: Schadenfreude is caused by our own unhappiness making us feel warped joy when something bad happens to that person, and always debases us in his view. Schadenfreude seems to tie in more with the right wing way of looking at people, at least the types who relish Memelord Normison DESTROYS cuck students videos. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 27, 2019 |
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Sep 27, 2019 18:58
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Necrothatcher posted:Oh my god the BBC are loving this up bad. "You're allowed to call people racist but not to pass a value judgement on if racism is good or bad"
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Saith posted:Spite is when you have a thing and want others to not have it. A little different. Isn't that greed? Cos I mean I'd totally identify my politics as spiteful, I don't want to be rich, I want to destroy richness, I want it not to be a thing any more because I hate it and hate that it exists. Granted I also think everyone else would be better off but it dovetails nicely with just active hatred for the rich.
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