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VitalSigns posted:So if I say "hey I would take it as a close personal favor if you hired my failson" that isn't nepotism to you. Excuse me, attacking candidates' successful children is not a winning strategy. Think of how many ordinary Americans whose children serve on the boards of Ukrainian gas companies this will alienate.
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Xombie posted:There is absolutely no evidence or even allegation that's what happened. Again: Hunter Biden was already rich and successful when they hired him. So if I ask someone to hire my son in exchange for favors, that is nepotism then? What if it's their idea in the first place and not mine.
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VitalSigns posted:So if I say "hey I would take it as a close personal favor if you hired my failson" that isn't nepotism to you. Cronyism? Are you really posting over and over again because you can't look words up? There's no other angle other than you not knowing words?
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Why is being an open Nazi not an autoban in 2019? JFC.
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VitalSigns posted:So if I ask someone to hire my son in exchange for favors, that is nepotism then? 1.) No 2.) Also still didn't happen.
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Angry_Ed posted:Is it right next to Mianus? You have to drive through Hell to get there.
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Prester Jane posted:Check their profile. They have less than 400 posts total over the life of their decade-old account but suddenly decided to start effortposting in this thread. Am I imagining things I read once or doesn't FYAD posting deduct from post count?
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Decrepus posted:Cronyism? Are you really posting over and over again because you can't look words up? There's no other angle other than you not knowing words? People are saying "it's not nepotism" like that's a defense of using your office to enrich yourself or your family members, so the defense is that the particular corruption that was happening is being described with the wrong label? Xombie posted:1.) No So what is it then? Merit?
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There's a simple solution for this. Open a separate thread for Biden/Hunter corruption and ban anyone who discusses it in this thread. It that happens, they will complain of course about how discussion of a political topic is being banned in a political thread, but thats a trap that the fascist rightwing uses. Its a microcosm of how fascists use a democracies openness and commitment to free speech to protect themselves. Everyone knows that bitching about Biden is a tactic to protect Trump under the guise of discussing USPOL. The mods will have to ban it eventually because its the only bullet Republicans have and this thread will become unreadable. Might as well do it now.
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Prester Jane posted:Check their profile. They have less than 400 posts total over the life of their decade-old account but suddenly decided to start effortposting in this thread.
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CascadeBeta posted:Why is being an open Nazi not an autoban in 2019? JFC. Because GBS 2.0? Xombie posted:2.) Also still didn't happen. "If this didn't happen then why do I keep insisting that it did?"
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At this point politico should just embrace fucknutsville, it's too perfectCascadeBeta posted:Why is being an open Nazi not an autoban in 2019? JFC. E: theflyingorc posted:While I don't actually think your theory here is IMPOSSIBLE, they appear to have posted a lot about Homestuck for me to think it's worth a foreign entity's time. this also should be an autoban in 2019
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VitalSigns posted:Getting a job because your family is rich isn't nepotism? I dont want to join the rest of the fight on this, but unless Joe Biden got his son that job via hiring him or asking someone to hire them this isn't nepotism. This one isn't even a direct flaw in capitalism as even in a communist utopia, people will try to gain influence via currying favor of the families of those with power and Joe wasnt just some rich dude, he was also VP.
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Ham posted:Mcmagic and others literally want there not to be a vote, and to draw out the impeachment inquiry to election day. i actually sometimes wonder about this, but i suspect public outcry over the Ukraine Thing and immediate followup might be enough to alter the calculus
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theflyingorc posted:While I don't actually think your theory here is IMPOSSIBLE, they appear to have posted a lot about Homestuck for me to think it's worth a foreign entity's time. Oh so GRU isn't allowed to enjoy spergy webcomics now?
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VitalSigns posted:People are saying "it's not nepotism" like that's a defense You're the only one saying it's a defense. Telling you that you're using words wrong isn't a defense of what you're wrongly describing. quote:of using your office to enrich yourself or your family members, Again: Hunter Biden was not an elected official while his dad was VP. His dad did not hire him. His dad, by all accounts, did not ask someone else to hire him.
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1177675028344782850 pompeo is subpoenas
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Trump is going to have to choose soon who to protect because he's hosed if he has both rudy and pompeo trying to throw eachother under the bus
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WorldsStongestNerd posted:There's a simple solution for this. Open a separate thread for Biden/Hunter corruption and ban anyone who discusses it in this thread. Seconded.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Trump is going to have to choose soon who to protect because he's hosed if he has both rudy and pompeo trying to throw eachother under the bus i hope Jared catches a stray shank from somebody
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Angry_Ed posted:well now we get to see if a subpoena during an impeachment inquiry can be ignored as easily Yup, the fight over Pompeo here is going to demonstrate the value of opening the inquiry, one way or the other
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CrowdControl posted:I dont want to join the rest of the fight on this, but unless Joe Biden got his son that job via hiring him or asking someone to hire them this isn't nepotism. It is nepotism, nepotism is favoritism to someone based on who their relatives are. But even if we want to create a special snowflake definition of nepotism, that just makes it a different flavor of corruption, which isn't a defense. And I don't think "well I didn't ask for the bribe I just accepted the cash" is a defense either.
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Rabble posted:Seconded. Primary chat is already "gently caress Biden" 24/7. Could just keep it there since Biden himself is not relevant otherwise? I dunno.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Trump is going to have to choose soon who to protect because he's hosed if he has both rudy and pompeo trying to throw each other under the bus he will save himself before he even thinks of helping them.
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CascadeBeta posted:Why is being an open Nazi not an autoban in 2019? JFC. Things in queue take a while to get processed
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Prester Jane posted:Good thing I never said it was the KGB then. I have no idea whose funding such things, because at this point basically every state and corporate actor has some sort of apparatus setup to drive disinfo campaigns on the internet. The vast majority of its done through bots on social media, but that's hardly where it all ends.
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Spun Dog posted:i hope Jared catches a stray shank from somebody Given Trump's foreign policy has been almost 100% decided by who is willing to funnel money into Kushner's investments, it almost definitely has to be a matter of time before someone digs it up. It's really weird his name has barely come up so far.
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VitalSigns posted:It is nepotism, nepotism is favoritism to someone based on who their relatives are. Once again, it literally is not. It is favoritism to someone based on being your own relatives
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theflyingorc posted:Yup, the fight over Pompeo here is going to demonstrate the value of opening the inquiry, one way or the other How close do you think it has to get to looking hopeless before Manafort finally breaks and spills whatever the gently caress he held back
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sean10mm posted:Primary chat is already "gently caress Biden" 24/7. Could just keep it there since Biden himself is not relevant otherwise? I dunno. That’ll work too. Probably a better place for it anyway
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VitalSigns posted:It is nepotism, nepotism is favoritism to someone based on who their relatives are. But even if we want to create a special snowflake definition of nepotism, that just makes it a different flavor of corruption, which isn't a defense.
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Xombie posted:Once again, it literally is not. It is favoritism to someone based on being your own relatives OK will you grant that it is a non-nepotistic form for corruption then? theflyingorc posted:Wait, is every person who hires one of their children at their company corrupt? Yes?
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