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Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
First time playing the game, is there a reason for one battle mode or the other? I like classic but is there a benefit to being able to move. My team freely in a fight?

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Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

Nope. It's something to idly fiddle with and position your team so you think they look cool. No mechanical element whatsoever.

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Is it just me or is it harder to craft a +3 item in 2d mode? I just got the forge and have been trying without success to get a +3 divine dagger, even with what looked to me like perfect rolls.

The nice thing is at least in 2d mode you can spam load and craft without the 5 minutes of downtime they put in the PS4 version.

edit: Doesn't seem like you can look at the +1/+2/+3 improvements on gear for perfection pearls in 2d mode, so may be best to craft in 3d mode whenever possible.

The Ninth Layer fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Sep 27, 2019

JustJeff88
Jan 15, 2008

I AM
CONSISTENTLY
ANNOYING
...
JUST TERRIBLE


THIS BADGE OF SHAME IS WORTH 0.45 DOUBLE DRAGON ADVANCES

:dogout:
of SA-Mart forever
My copy of the game was undeliverable today because the UPS man happened to show up when everyone at the leasing office was out to lunch and I was at work (missed him by 15 minutes :argh:), but in the meantime I have a question since the Switch is region-free. Is there any version in any part of the world that is in languages besides English and Japanese? Obviously I can read English or I wouldn't be here, but I am curious as I recently was very lucky and snagged an EU copy of Link's Awakening that's in 9+ languages.

Detective No. 27 posted:

It really doesn't look like the S enhancements are going to end up as DLC for the other versions. Nintendo considers it as a full on remake rather than a port/re-release. Also I heard that Yuji Hori said that a Switch version of DQXI was a dying wish from Satoru Iwata.

In other DQ news, I downloaded the DQIII port on Switch. I've only played on my Switch Lite, but I think it actually looks very pretty. The screenshots online do it a disservice. These ports are absolutely not a Final Fantasy V and VI remake situation.

Tell me all about those Switch ports. Honestly, I had already assumed that they were straight mobile rips just without the mobile bit, but I would love to be proven wrong.

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Don’t forget to turn on “townsfolk talk tripe” under Draconian Quest.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

What does it do

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Amppelix posted:

What does it do

Towns people basically just say little lies and stuff. It’s nothing crazy, the game makes it obvious that someone is lying but it’s fun.

You don’t lose out on the normal dialogue either, just talk to someone again to hear what they would normally say.

Lord Ephraim
Feb 22, 2008

That's one way to get ahead in life, but nothing beats an axe to the face.
2D mode is completely ruined by having an insane random encounter rate. Kingsbarrow having to fight 3 little devils every four steps is way too much for your resources to hold out. If you spent your magic vials recovering before the boss, then died to the boss you better reload your save because getting back to it with full MP is impossible.

bondster
May 6, 2007

Is being able to buy missing ingredients directly while at the forge a new thing for the Switch version cause uh....

This loving rules

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
How does 2D mode handle the more complex city areas with hidden treasure on the rooftops and poo poo? Pretty gracefully?

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Deified Data posted:

How does 2D mode handle the more complex city areas with hidden treasure on the rooftops and poo poo? Pretty gracefully?

The layouts are completely redesigned (simplified).

Social Animal
Nov 1, 2005

Man I'm tempted for the DQIII port. If they had IV released with party chat I would have already been up in it.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Playing without Harder Monsters is fine. When I played through the game I'd see posts about boss X or Y and noticed everyone talking about it was multiple levels higher. Fighting normal Slayer of Sands at level 12 or 13 really isn't too different from people doing it at 17-18 on hard mode.

Josuke Higashikata posted:

Happy Sylvando day to my Switch friends

Time for everyone to play Untitled Sylvando Game.

Amppelix posted:

Wow I was just about to type up a post about how I've played more than 15 hours of XI without ever hearing a battle theme beyond the standard one and wondering if boss themes even exist, but then one finally appeared for the slayer of the sands. I guess all those other encounters weren't "real" bosses.

We get to see a new group of people experience that fight for the first time. :allears:

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.


Just beat the Slayer myself. Had a few close shaves but managed pretty well.

Also Sylvando rules hardcore.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Evil Fluffy posted:

Playing without Harder Monsters is fine. When I played through the game I'd see posts about boss X or Y and noticed everyone talking about it was multiple levels higher. Fighting normal Slayer of Sands at level 12 or 13 really isn't too different from people doing it at 17-18 on hard mode.

Ha, no wonder I had such an easy time with the game. I was five levels above where I should've been on normal mode.

Azathoth256
Mar 30, 2010
So I've been coasting through stronger monsters, just wrecked slayer of the sands on the first try. I'm not sure if it's just because I've done it before or if the little QOL improvements have made that much of a difference. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, probably at the Phnom Nonh boss. Holy poo poo, that was a roadblock my first time through the game.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
A big key for beating Slayer on Hard mode is finding out it doesn't resist poison that well. I resspec'ed Erik into Cobra Strike -> Victimizer and he was doing 300+ damage at level 16 every few turns.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
I forget the combo but Erik + others can do a much stronger version of his DoT pep power and I'm pretty sure anyone who has access to it can use it to just wreck the Slayer too because even at low levels it's like 100+ damage per round for 5-6 rounds or so.

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008

Jade Rider posted:

Just beat the Slayer myself. Had a few close shaves but managed pretty well.

Also Sylvando rules hardcore.

Sylvando is the best. In every appearance, he just becomes more awesome.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

Evil Fluffy posted:

I forget the combo but Erik + others can do a much stronger version of his DoT pep power and I'm pretty sure anyone who has access to it can use it to just wreck the Slayer too because even at low levels it's like 100+ damage per round for 5-6 rounds or so.

Yep, this is how I beat it the first time. I did it at 15, though, and Hard Slayer is rough at that level. It's got Baramos-scale HP and you more or less need a damage source like the combo pep to get through the HP pool in time without access to Midheal. You really should get to 16 for Midheal, it makes the fight far easier.

Lord Ephraim
Feb 22, 2008

That's one way to get ahead in life, but nothing beats an axe to the face.
I did Harder Monsters and Game Over if Protaganist dies. The later option is literally stripped from Persona since if he dies then you are booted straight to the main menu instead of the nearest church. Not a huge deal since autosaves are pretty frequent but a long dungeon haul can be for nothing because you got Whacked.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



bondster posted:

Is being able to buy missing ingredients directly while at the forge a new thing for the Switch version cause uh....

This loving rules
That does sound pretty good. I wish I'd had it playing on the PS4 version. :argh:

Social Animal posted:

Man I'm tempted for the DQIII port. If they had IV released with party chat I would have already been up in it.
I'm hoping they give us ports of 4 and 5.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Re: Content added to the Switch version


- new costumes
- all the super bosses from the 3ds ver (the retro boss mashups, super version of nizzazelfer/calasmos)
- ability to marry any of your party members
- new superboss that is a super version of the double dragon act 2 final boss
- no 9th party member


I think that's all the major stuff

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


The Golden Reins let you cheese the horse races with infinite sprint.

This is actually loving HUGE once you get to the final end of the races because holy poo poo.

Also the ability to use glamoured gear without having to equip it (i.e always have the DQ8 outfit for example) doesn't let you be default appearance while wearing something appearance altering.

Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Sep 28, 2019

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

BabyRyoga posted:

I think that's all the major stuff
Wait what do you mean "major stuff." You say this and yet don't mention the massive sidequest involving visiting other DQ worlds?

Also they advertised something about all new character-focused sidestories in the prerelease marketing

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

BabyRyoga posted:


- ability to marry any of your party members


This better include Sylvando. Otherwise what's the point?

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Amppelix posted:

Wait what do you mean "major stuff." You say this and yet don't mention the massive sidequest involving visiting other DQ worlds?


That's the 3ds content

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Was that on 3DS already? I was under the impression it was new for this version although the 2D itself mode isn't.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!
Did they include a system that allows you to wear some of the alt outfits if you own them or have worn them previously, ala what Builders 2 allows? I felt like that was kind of missing from the OG version of XI.

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011

Amppelix posted:

Was that on 3DS already? I was under the impression it was new for this version although the 2D itself mode isn't.

It was 3DS exclusive.

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

SpaceDrake posted:

Did they include a system that allows you to wear some of the alt outfits if you own them or have worn them previously, ala what Builders 2 allows? I felt like that was kind of missing from the OG version of XI.

Yes

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Is there anything to be gained from playing slime quest manually? It's fun to watch on autoplay and also seems like it's pretty much random either way.

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Ok so I've now watched slime quest on autoplay for like two hours while doing other stuff

My conclusion is that it's complete bullshit and winning has absolutely nothing to do with how big of a party you've managed to gather or any other factor that might seem like it's relevant

but it sure is fun to watch! Also, it's pretty much just free tokens for no effort as long as you're around to press the autoplay button every few minutes.

E: Oh yeah, and I still haven't managed to gather all the orbs on the side of the machine. You can bet I'll be doing this all day until I figure out what getting those actually does.

Amppelix fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Sep 28, 2019

Crawfish
Dec 11, 2012



Oh. So that's where they put the Switch version exclusive side story things for the party members.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.

Amppelix posted:

Ok so I've now watched slime quest on autoplay for like two hours while doing other stuff

My conclusion is that it's complete bullshit and winning has absolutely nothing to do with how big of a party you've managed to gather or any other factor that might seem like it's relevant

but it sure is fun to watch! Also, it's pretty much just free tokens for no effort as long as you're around to press the autoplay button every few minutes.

E: Oh yeah, and I still haven't managed to gather all the orbs on the side of the machine. You can bet I'll be doing this all day until I figure out what getting those actually does.

The Slime Quest slot machine is completely out of your hands and gives a trickle of tokens IIRC.

If you want to actually afford stuff in the casino just play the normal slots and save when you have a good payout. Eventually you'll end up in metal mode and if you hit a jackpot you're set (for that part of the game anyways).

Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

I got about 90k tokens from my three or so hours of slime quest (on the middle level machine.) I wouldn't call that a trickle but it's definitely not fast either. Pretty efficient for only mildly engaging in it and doing other things while it's going though. Much better than having to spam confirm to get stuff out of the normal slot machine. Why couldn't that have autoplay too??

And yes, I didn't get all the orbs. I got 4 pretty fast and then the later ones never came. It probably only gives you some relatively small amount of tokens anyway. Or I dunno, maybe it gives you the jackpot?

Srice
Sep 11, 2011

All the cool kids win big by playing poker and going double or nothing far more than any sane person should.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Just talk to the bunny girl, find out which machine has the best odds and set it to autoplay Slime Quest.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
Does the old Roulette Strat from DQ8 still work?

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ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Orange Crush Rush posted:

Does the old Roulette Strat from DQ8 still work?

Yes

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