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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Well, the time has finally come. Probably the only thing I'll miss about Great Lakes is not having to polish my brown boots. Plus the tongue was padded, not just a strip of leather. So what's the current hotness for black boots? The recommendation from the most recent black boot purchaser I've talked to is Belleville's 800ST Flight Deck boot. Those boots are legit as gently caress. Can confirm I burned up a couple pairs of those while I was on the ship but my feet were comfortable and un-blistered. The gore-tex definitely helps cushion your foot and ankle and protects it from just having unfinished leather against it (boot socks really don't protect your feet against that poo poo), and they're supposedly warmer than uninsulated boots (but you won't notice honestly, cold is cold) I dont know whether your command requires black boots though so 🤷♂️ orange juche fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Sep 24, 2019 |
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A friend saw this on a lamppost in Queens today, thought the thread would enjoy it:
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Reminds me of https://youtu.be/jhioeOeOHsA
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LingcodKilla posted:Do you already know for a fact your next command requires black boots? Yup, confirmed by my upcoming chief.
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Sep 25, 2019 03:59
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Why does the Navy require multiple different work boots? Shouldn't there be one standard to simplify wartime logistics?
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shovelbum posted:Why does the Navy require multiple different work boots? Shouldn't there be one standard to simplify wartime logistics? You’re talking about an organization that has distinct “working uniforms” and “coveralls”.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Yup, confirmed by my upcoming chief. What a dick. The yards don’t even care.
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shovelbum posted:Why does the Navy require multiple different work boots? Shouldn't there be one standard to simplify wartime logistics? Well its black steel toe for the standard. But you can have the alternative rough outs in both black or tan but not dubbed like the old style would have been. Also the command can say non-steel toe is ok if it’s a not a safety issue. So I wore non steel toe tan rough outs Bellviews at the USNO that were basically weightless.
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Shipboard cannot wear non-steel toe and have less flexible boot alternatives than shore commands. Prior to NWUs, so long as your boot was solid black and sleel toe, it didn’t matter as much. My first captain had steel toe black slippers.
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Yeah you only get to wear all leather black on a boat. You should totally get FD boots. I'm on shore about six months out of the year so I bought a pair of belleville 330s in coyote so the aviation community can't bitch about hypothetical fod. They're much cooler, softer, flexible and lighter.
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CMD598 posted:Yeah you only get to wear all leather black on a boat. You should totally get FD boots. Probably 80% of my boat wears brown boots. About 50% of the people with black boots only have black because they are still in blue NWUs. I had no idea "mandatory black boots" was even a thing. Why would a command do that. Brown is an authorized alternative uniform item. Mine have a composite toe so they are light while still being authorized for ordnance handling.
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Cerekk posted:Probably 80% of my boat wears brown boots. SWOs wear blackshoes. Aviators wear brown ones. Senior officers/enlisted get real touchy about wearing the right color shoes.
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I think he’s describing boot color for NWU which is most certainly not divided by community. The carrier and submarine crews in port wear mostly coyote colored boots. Would appear these days only Boots wear black boots.
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I know. I’m explaining why, in part, ships were hardcore about black boots even prior to NWUs existing.
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piL posted:Reminds me of https://youtu.be/jhioeOeOHsA Someone on their staff did a little research  ($419.40 * 12) / 52 $96.78
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http://cimsec.org/the-navy-reserve-is-broken/41665 Good to see someone writing what we already knew
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Nick Soapdish posted:http://cimsec.org/the-navy-reserve-is-broken/41665 Concerning. Not surprising from experience.
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LingcodKilla posted:Concerning. I am seriously considering peacing out next year when my contract is up. After all the administrative issues with ECRC and NOSCs post MOB a few years ago, I'm not close enough to retirement to just power through to a Good 20. It sucks since I enjoy parts of my job and helping out Sailors but the FTS NOSC members are just universally garbage
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Nick Soapdish posted:I am seriously considering peacing out next year when my contract is up. After all the administrative issues with ECRC and NOSCs post MOB a few years ago, I'm not close enough to retirement to just power through to a Good 20. It sucks since I enjoy parts of my job and helping out Sailors but the FTS NOSC members are just universally garbage I’m gonna have to sign a new contract since my mob is a month longer than my current one. Honestly I’ll just power through it. If poo poo happens though it will suck but I’ll survive.
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LingcodKilla posted:I’m gonna have to sign a new contract since my mob is a month longer than my current one. Honestly I’ll just power through it. If poo poo happens though it will suck but I’ll survive. You can always extend, dont make them make you sign a new contract if you don't want to Crabman
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Nick Soapdish posted:You can always extend, dont make them make you sign a new contract if you don't want to Crabman I know this is strange but I actually like the reserves mostly because I didn’t serve in active from what I can tell. Also I don’t want to leave my GI bill on the table and I need to serve another six years after earning it with this mob to transfer it to my kids.
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If I had the charmed reserve existence crabman has had I'd probably stick around too. At least one of us has had a good time, aside from that whole issue of them owing you thousands of dollars which I hope got settled.
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maffew buildings posted:If I had the charmed reserve existence crabman has had I'd probably stick around too. At least one of us has had a good time, aside from that whole issue of them owing you thousands of dollars which I hope got settled. Oh no of course not but then again even on orders begging for work I mostly sat around stress free.
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You've had a seriously easy time of it. If your time had been anything like mine you would have peaced the gently caress out like I did, even with a max bonus for a reup.
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What do you guys do for healthcare after peacing out entirely? $210/mo family Tricare coverage is literally the singular reason I still pretend I'm in the Navy for 38 days a year.
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I got a job with good healthcare. I imagine options will differ based on what your rate was and your prospects at civilian employment.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the best option unless you're independently wealthy. Hell, I've got really good insurance and I got dinged for ~$3k yesterday.
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Part of the answer would also depend on how many people you have, what your income level is, etc.... I would imagine you are working now, aside from the reserves? Does your employment offer any healthcare coverage? I imagine you elected against it, if you are going tri-care. If you are in relatively good health and your occupation offers a Health Savings Account that is probably a better option. Give us a few more specifics/details of the situation and perhaps we can figure out some advice that would fit your situation? That being said, there are really only a few options; utilize what is provided, if any, by your employer, utilize a subsidized public program, the cost of which would be income dependant, or utilize Tri-Care here. I mean, I guess you could go without, but please don't consider that a viable option.
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The Tricare is the only reason I have anything to do with the military anymore. I'll be transferring back to the reserves next October, this command has broken my will to push on. I'll ride the reserve train to 20.
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Thronde posted:I'll ride the reserve train to 20. You say that now ... Best of luck to you
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Tricare isn't terrible but I'm not a huge fan of driving 45 minutes one-way every time I need to see my doctor.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:Part of the answer would also depend on how many people you have, what your income level is, etc.... I would imagine you are working now, aside from the reserves? Does your employment offer any healthcare coverage? I imagine you elected against it, if you are going tri-care. If you are in relatively good health and your occupation offers a Health Savings Account that is probably a better option. Give us a few more specifics/details of the situation and perhaps we can figure out some advice that would fit your situation?
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McNally posted:Tricare isn't terrible but I'm not a huge fan of driving 45 minutes one-way every time I need to see my doctor. What's worse is hearing "Well this year you've paid $8 towards your deductible, and also we charge up front so your total today is  "
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Gray Matter posted:What do you guys do for healthcare after peacing out entirely? $210/mo family Tricare coverage is literally the singular reason I still pretend I'm in the Navy for 38 days a year. My wifes plan via working for Kaiser covers me. I am extremely fortunate for this. They raised the visit cost from $5 to $20 a few years ago tho. 
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Hey so quick plug for a knowledge resource. MIT puts alot of their coursework online at ocw.mit.edu so even though you don’t necessarily have a mechanism to get credit, you can get alot of useful knowledge. Anecdotally I had some sailors I reached out to and recommended them read up on a couple courses related to work they were trying to do after they got out. Later heard back from them that they attributed their slam dunk interviews to alot of the material they studied on the site.
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Gray Matter posted:I'm not working now, wife is and her employer's insurance is like 3x the premium for less coverage. I'm graduating in the spring with a CS bachelor's, so hopefully on the upper end of the employability spectrum. I'm in good health, wife has chronic issues and we have a kid. I would imagine in that case that you can probably end up with a job with fairly good insurance once you graduate. Especially if you are in the right area for it, like Seattle, Austin, Silicon Valley, NYC, Pittsburgh, Omaha, or are willing to move to such locations for work. Due to chronic illness I would advise not utilizing a health savings plan, as the odds of ever making an appreciable savings for that are likely non existent. With a chronic illness I would look at a plans maximum out of pocket cost per individual and family, and the deductible, because I would assume you will hit that every year. Does tri-care outside of active duty work like active duty, just with a monthly rate? Is it like you pay the 210/month and then have unlimited utilization? Were you a Nuke or another rate? The reason I ask is if you have an industrial background like Nuke/Engineering then data centers are an option that opens up, and a lot of the data centers could use people with the technical background and the computer science knowledge to help build out specific internal systems for operating data centers. Data centers also have the unique advantage of being associated with the glamorous tech companies, but in more varied locations. For example, if you wanted to work for Google/Facebook but live in Oregon, then the data centers are a real good option. If you (or anyone else in this thread) wants more information on data center work or applying for them let me know and I can assist with that.
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Kalessin ofSelidor posted:Hey so quick plug for a knowledge resource. MIT puts alot of their coursework online at ocw.mit.edu so even though you don’t necessarily have a mechanism to get credit, you can get alot of useful knowledge. Anecdotally I had some sailors I reached out to and recommended them read up on a couple courses related to work they were trying to do after they got out. Later heard back from them that they attributed their slam dunk interviews to alot of the material they studied on the site. Appreciate ya homie
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IncredibleIgloo posted:I would imagine in that case that you can probably end up with a job with fairly good insurance once you graduate. Especially if you are in the right area for it, like Seattle, Austin, Silicon Valley, NYC, Pittsburgh, Omaha, or are willing to move to such locations for work. Aren’t there still a decent amount of data centers being added in TX? I only ask because if you can get some of the tech company health plan action, TX has some pretty good benefits and supportive culture for veterans. Also generally good cost of living compared to a bunch of places and no state income tax. Main caveat though is depending on which city/region you may have more exposure to chud mentality or judgey religious folks than you might want. But also unfortunately some parts aren’t so great if you aren’t cis/het/white folk. But for reals though it can often be a good place for vets seeking work at least.
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I do know that we are building out in Midlothian, which is to the Southwest of Dallas-Ft. Worth area. I would imagine there are a few other companies that have a presence in Texas as well. Virginia also has a lot, so if you are transferring out of the Navy you can head up to Richmond or DC area and be knee deep in all sorts of data center jobs. Only drawback there is that the cost of living and traffic are bad. Data Center Locations for various companies: Reno/Las Vegas Salt Lake City Dallas Ft. Worth Herndon, VA/Loudon County VA/ DC Rural Oregon - Central/Eastern Rural Washington -Central/Eastern Tulsa Omaha area Atlanta Rural Alabama (I see no reason to ever go there) NYC has the largest telco data center, but it is in Manhattan, so maybe commute and cost of living would be problematic. Denver has a few colocation sites The Midwest has some around Chicago and Columbus I believe. I can do some digging if needed too https://www.midlothianmirror.com/news/20190614/midlothian-is-worth-google-tech-giant-hosts-welcoming-event-at-new-375-acre-data-center
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Viva Miriya posted:Appreciate ya homie  Also forgot to mention that the course 15 stuff (sloan school of management) can be pretty universally helpful. Apparently alot of companies these days will pay big bucks for consultants to come in and basically regurgitate some of that material. Especially the classes that have some flavor of systems dynamics or game theory to the title (fair warning though if you have a solid STEM background you might get annoyed by some of the pseudomath involved in lecture material). If I remember correctly I think the logistics classes also have similar value
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