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The UK genuinely can't be trusted with a military. I mean I don't think anywhere really can but the UK really can't.
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Sep 29, 2019 21:20
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OwlFancier posted:The UK genuinely can't be trusted with a military. I mean I don't think anywhere really can but the UK really can't. Ireland has some good international peacekeeping programmes, which is what militaries should be for imo Though I'm not too sure of the details, so they might be bastards too.
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Our military is one of the best ones. Like our NHS. And the BBC. And football team(England).
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Our military is one of the best ones. Like our NHS. And the BBC. And football team(England). Hoo-RAH!
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Sep 29, 2019 21:23
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Iran could absolutely be destroyed rapidly in a shock and awe attack. If the Americans commited their entire surface fleet to the effort. If we tried it we'd blow up a couple of fuel depots before contributing to several new marine habitats at the bottom of the Persian Gulf. Also that polling is depressing as hell, I can only hope when we get the GE that we have a similar outcome to last time except better, because the broadcasters have to be far more fair (i.e. literally any amount of fairness). People's perceptions of the parties truly are wild.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Our military is one of the best ones. Like our NHS. And the BBC. And football team(England). They're great for me, because they all piss off at midday on Fridays, so if I have any work on any defense facility on a Friday I deliberately push it out to the afternoon so I can turn up, not get on site because no-one's there then go home early
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Ratjaculation posted:Ireland has some good international peacekeeping programmes, which is what militaries should be for imo https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jadotville
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Iran's entire military is organised around the assumption that one day, they WILL be attacked by the United States and that they'll need to resist with the forces and resources at their disposal. My non-expert opinion is that Iran would be perfectly capable of fighting the US to a stalemate, while completely loving up all other oil production in the Middle East.
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America would gently caress up Iran if they had to. But to obtain that resolve might take more than they are willing to give voluntarily.
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Sep 29, 2019 21:36
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Pistol_Pete posted:Iran's entire military is organised around the assumption that one day, they WILL be attacked by the United States and that they'll need to resist with the forces and resources at their disposal. My non-expert opinion is that Iran would be perfectly capable of fighting the US to a stalemate, while completely loving up all other oil production in the Middle East. What is yoyr definition of stalemate? Powerless infrastructure and an underground government? Or a river isonzo type stalemate?
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:What is yoyr definition of stalemate? Powerless infrastructure and an underground government? Or a river isonzo type stalemate? Given your username not sure whether we should consider you an expert in the matter or ignore you at all costs?
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This sock puppet thinks it might not go all USA's way https://youtu.be/KESLN_3LU_4
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Sep 29, 2019 21:42
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:What is yoyr definition of stalemate? Powerless infrastructure and an underground government? Or a river isonzo type stalemate? I mean the US has lost its past few wars because of an inability to actually decide on an objective and having to just leave after a while and enough dead. Iran has far more capacity to kill yanks than the US's usual targets do.
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Sep 29, 2019 21:43
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So it predators them endlessly.
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OwlFancier posted:Is there not some way we can have the war without killing anyone cos I desperately want to see these morons get owned. The film Robot Jox has the right idea. Two giant robots, who ever wins, their country leads the rest.
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Sep 29, 2019 21:48
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So it predators them endlessly. If it does that Iran's just going to add them to its exiting pile of captured US drones.
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OwlFancier posted:If it does that Iran's just going to add them to its exiting pile of captured US drones. Lol. then it does more drones.
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Sep 29, 2019 21:55
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jBrereton posted:That was actually her brexit mate Dennis Skinner who was in charge of the NEC that year. Proof? I've seen reporting from the time, they certainly thought Kinnock was behind it also what do you mean 'in charge of' the NEC
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Sep 29, 2019 21:58
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NotJustANumber99 posted:So it predators them endlessly. It was a few months back when Iran literally captured the American experimental drone flying over their airspace that was supposed to be 100% undetectable. This was a couple days into the US building up war threats and they suddenly went very quiet afterwards. Plus if they did contribute towards the oilfield attack like the US claims they can do that many times over within hours of the first bombs dropping.
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Sep 29, 2019 22:00
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They dont need oil anymore. They've got Elon.
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Drones for the drone throne.
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Rarity posted:At the same time we have to appreciate that professional quality recording gear is pricey so not everyone can afford it and we don't want to exclude people from taking part because they're too poor. That would pretty much be the opposite of what this thread is all about. Unfortunately I don't really know much in terms of the bare minimum decent quality mic. There's probably something that can be done with clipping in audacity or using a messaging program with a different codec, but again I feel bad at not really having any practical solutions.
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Sep 29, 2019 22:07
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Arent like I dunno Iphones good at this sort of stuff? Given being y'know really expensive telephones?
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If the us decided on a real invasion of iran the response from Iran would likely be firing every middle possible at Saudi Arabia and Israel
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Verizian posted:It was a few months back when Iran literally captured the American experimental drone flying over their airspace that was supposed to be 100% undetectable. This was a couple days into the US building up war threats and they suddenly went very quiet afterwards. Plus if they did contribute towards the oilfield attack like the US claims they can do that many times over within hours of the first bombs dropping. Presumably, anyone ordering the attack will have anticipated and prepared for that eventuality by betting a few billion on oil price rises Most military defence plans, and it seems the Iranians are no exception, are based on the logic ‘if they attack, we will do bad things to the attacking country’. This fails to take account of the possibility of the people ordering the attack simply not giving a poo poo.
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Jose posted:If the us decided on a real invasion of iran the response from Iran would likely be firing every middle possible at Saudi Arabia and Israel Also, probably executing all the foreign nationals they've been arresting to act as human shields.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Arent like I dunno Iphones good at this sort of stuff? Given being y'know really expensive telephones?
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Yeah that's the thing with phones, the actual phone service is so poo poo that there's not necessarily a good reason to make them actually good at recording.
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feedmegin posted:Proof? I've seen reporting from the time, they certainly thought Kinnock was behind it also what do you mean 'in charge of' the NEC
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Our military is in a pretty lovely, antiquated state - at least on the Air Force and Navy side. It's just that we so happen to have really good aircrews and sailors.
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Diet Crack posted:Our military is in a pretty lovely, antiquated state - at least on the Air Force and Navy side. It's just that we so happen to have really good aircrews and sailors. Compared to whom?
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Verizian posted:It was a few months back when Iran literally captured the American experimental drone flying over their airspace that was supposed to be 100% undetectable. This was a couple days into the US building up war threats and they suddenly went very quiet afterwards. Plus if they did contribute towards the oilfield attack like the US claims they can do that many times over within hours of the first bombs dropping. The real message of the refinery strikes IMO had nothing to do with oil. The refineries could be bought back online in days or weeks and ultimately there's enough reserves around the world and general slack in the system for it to be not much more than a blip. Even a much larger-scale attack would just need money and time to fix. However the Saudi water infrastructure is far more vulnerable to attack (all of the desalination plants on the Persian Gulf for a start) and knocking it out of commission for a couple of weeks basically ends Saudi Arabia as a country. America might be able to gently caress Iran up big style but having their ally and base of operations turned into a sterile wasteland might just look like a score-draw at best.
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I dont think it ends saudi arabia as a country? Also is it that oil explodes like a hollywood car crash whereas water doesnt?
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Invent Terminator-like deathdroids to fight our wars for us except we keep making their hivemind smarter to kill more effectively until they're smart enough to figure out that it's really stupid, this war thing, then all the opposing robot hiveminds from rival countries fuse into a single hypermind a la Colossus, and it fucks off to space, contains us in a shield, and goes on to do all the cool space things we've ever wanted, but is kind enough to broadcast it on live streaming I mean it's better than our civilisation just dwindling down like a wet climate death fart
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Pochoclo posted:I mean it's better than our civilisation just dwindling down like a wet climate death fart Why?
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Because we get to see cool space poo poo being built and science and technology advance and there's even the small hope that seeing that robot hivemind utopia works will finally kill capitalism and the robots are cool enough to let us become cyborgs and join them in space I mean it's just a random fantasy post I didn't put much research into it
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Sep 29, 2019 22:50
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As with so many things in life, the solution is giant robot fights.
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