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Noir89 posted:This is me, literally no interest in Vicky 3 fool
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They aren't going to put out CK3 yet. There is no way. I don't know what its going to be but I am quite confident that they aren't that foolish.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:02
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Average Bear posted:That actually sounds awesome lol. The least interesting part of HOI4 is the war and I don't mean that sarcastically. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poyDlQHOkGc
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Sep 30, 2019 23:09
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Great time to start marketing an American Civil War game. Though I'm personally rooting for something Napoleonic.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:13
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Giggle Goose posted:They aren't going to put out CK3 yet. There is no way. I don't know what its going to be but I am quite confident that they aren't that foolish. reminder hoi was announced in 2014 and ultimately released in '16, CK2's "last DLC" was nearly a year ago now.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:18
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The twenty of you who played Vicky will never see another in your lifetime. Accept this. Also it’s got to be a confirmed hit from their stable of good sellers to make up for lackluster Rome 2.0, got to please those stock holders.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:21
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Fantasy Victoria 3 with magical factories.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:22
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I mean I want it to be EU5 - and it would fit with the armor and sword - but that's hardly realistic given that they're still working on the final patch for 4 My money is on CK3.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:31
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:I mean I want it to be EU5 - and it would fit with the armor and sword - but that's hardly realistic given that they're still working on the final patch for 4 There are still a bunch of DLCs for EU4 planned. We won't see 5 for a while.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:34
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PittTheElder posted:I mean I want it to be EU5 - and it would fit with the armor and sword - but that's hardly realistic given that they're still working on the final patch for 4 CK3 seems likeliest if the sword and the armor are hints, but I would like to see something a bit more fantasy too. One of the problems with the fantasy thing though is making a world that's possible to jump right into as a grand strategy; Stellaris tried to resolve that by being a 4X early on but never stuck that transition to Grand Strategy promised pre-release. A pre-existing IP could make sense for that. I'd be interested to see what Paradox could do with the Forgotten Realms, as an example.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:41
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Bleh I didn't actually watch the twitter video. Man I hope its some fantasy thing. If they were smart they'd hold off on making CK3 for years, long enough for people to get bored of the old one and then they could approach the question with a different formula and a different engine. If they try to pull some kind of EA The Sims thing, I can't imagine how bent out of shape their fans will get. I'd be pretty disappointed.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:42
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I think they'd be really foolish to announce CK3 this year or even next year. I realise CK might have the best widespread appeal of all the Paradox games after all these years and so it makes sense as a moneymaker, but it'd be a terrible idea. Give it some time to percolate a bit more - with Holy Fury out so recently it feels too soon to wipe the slate clean unless there's some serious improvements that can be made. Even with a 1 or 2 year window between announcement and release... I feel like it's too early. If Vicky 3 is out of the question, and assuming it's not Bismarck/Gladstone/Nicholas II/whatever... I think there's a good case for a fantasy gsg as a counterpoint to Stellaris. I would hope in that case that they would make a "fixed" world with thought given to worldbulding/a sense of balance rather than Stellaris' procedural races. I think a Cold War game is unlikely; maybe I just want it to be unlikely. I think it's still "too soon" and I'm not sure I trust them to take the right approach as to who the player is and how you can make interesting and complicated decisions without the prospect of large-scale wars. I'd be keen for a cradle of civilization game, though i don't know much about the period or what the major mechanics would be. Presumably there'd have to be some way of having some cultures just completely collapse... How about a March of the Eagles 2 that's a EU4-HoI4-Imperator hybrid, using a similar map to Imperator (i.e. abstract away some parts of the world/theatres) and with named generals with traits and loyalties. Or howabout Sengoku 2, or a Boshin War game.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:46
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I'd be up for a really detailed ww1 game. Something that covers trench warfare better than Hoi4 can. It would be more production/industry/economic focused than on actual warfare, given how mostly static it was compared to ww2. They could develop some systems for it that could be later used in a vicky 3. Kind of how Sengoku was a hyper-focused test-run for the ck2 mechanics.
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Sep 30, 2019 23:54
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Average Bear posted:The New Order. Alt history mod of an Axis victory in WW2 where the world is just absolutely insane and getting into a nuclear war ends the game by deleting provinces one by one. Dramicus posted:The New Order. It's a mod for HoI4 that focuses on post-ww2 where Germany won and is in a 3-way cold war with the Free West under the USA, and Japan's Asian bloc. The mod treats direct war between the major powers as a game-over state. Most combat is supposed to be done with coups, volunteers and lendlease. That's pretty neat!
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Oct 1, 2019 00:06
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Dramicus posted:I'd be up for a really detailed ww1 game. Something that covers trench warfare better than Hoi4 can. It would be more production/industry/economic focused than on actual warfare, given how mostly static it was compared to ww2. They could develop some systems for it that could be later used in a vicky 3. Kind of how Sengoku was a hyper-focused test-run for the ck2 mechanics. I would be incredibly down for that. Maybe start in 1910 (Edward IV dies, Halley's comet is visible, start of the Mexican revolution, Portugese Revolution, allows for enough time for stuff like the Balkan wars and the Agadir crisis to shake up the status quo), run until ~1922 or thereabouts, and formalise a way of setting up war goals, secret deals/alliances, and unrest leading to full-blown mutinies and revolutions.
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Oct 1, 2019 00:19
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WW1 was only super static in the Western front. The Eastern front was plenty mobile, with fronts shifting a hundred miles a day
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Oct 1, 2019 00:21
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Raskolnikov38 posted:vicky1's pop system Average Bear posted:Imperators pop system 
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Oct 1, 2019 00:23
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I'm just glad that whatever the game they arw announcing, they won't be looking here for design advice.
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Oct 1, 2019 01:04
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ah yes the vicky 1 pop system where you spent half the game giving yourself carpel tunnel by manually splitting your pops to make them more effective.
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Oct 1, 2019 01:17
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Vicky 3 will only get released if Bernie wins and class consciousness returns to America and you all know it Yes I know theyre Nordic
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Oct 1, 2019 01:33
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Alikchi posted:Great time to start marketing an American Civil War game. 1776-1836 could be a really good GSG. Plus it’s got 3 obvious start dates to design around in 1776, 1789, and 1804
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Oct 1, 2019 01:36
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You'd be better off doing the whole 2nd Hundred Year war starting 1688 and going through to 1836.
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Oct 1, 2019 01:39
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It's WWI so that Wiz can achieve his lifelong goal of creating the stupidest AI of all time in order to properly emulate the war.
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Oct 1, 2019 02:21
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Oh poo poo I've changed my mind, I don't want EU5, I want Voltaire's Nightmare: The Game, non stop Imperial shenanigans! Play as a landless Knight who is a direct vassal of the Emperor for some reason! Try and get appointed Bishop of a diosese in Syria!
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Oct 1, 2019 02:32
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PittTheElder posted:Oh poo poo I've changed my mind, I don't want EU5, I want Voltaire's Nightmare: The Game, non stop Imperial shenanigans! Play as a landless Knight who is a direct vassal of the Emperor for some reason! Try and get appointed Bishop of a diosese in Syria! oh christ I want to play that so bad how much non-contiguous land can you conquer in a lifetime? Idk but it's gonna make the poor mapmakers cry
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Oct 1, 2019 02:42
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If we're just throwing out things we want to play, I'm rooting for my fever dream version of Stellaris that was a reskin of Crusader Kings, where having more than a few planets is really hard so there's just all sorts of weird goofball planets as you get further from the core worlds, and those same goofballs are the ones that are most likely to have diplomatic relationships with alien races.
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Oct 1, 2019 03:39
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:If we're just throwing out things we want to play, I'm rooting for my fever dream version of Stellaris that was a reskin of Crusader Kings, where having more than a few planets is really hard so there's just all sorts of weird goofball planets as you get further from the core worlds, and those same goofballs are the ones that are most likely to have diplomatic relationships with alien races. They should make a battletech gsg and when you initiate a battle it launches battletech and you fight it out there.
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Oct 1, 2019 04:07
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CK3 would be intensely stupid to announce rn unless they had some kind of completely revolutionary idea (and actually delivered on it). This doesn't mean it's not CK3 tho, because while all the devs we know and love aren't usually intensely stupid, management and particularly shareholders ARE
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Oct 1, 2019 04:41
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It's going to be a late cold war game called Thatcher: An Empire on the Edge of Destruction. The fantasy element is Star Wars is viable, in order to make nuclear war winnable.
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Oct 1, 2019 05:14
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Get Paradox to make a new Brexit-themed King of Dragon Pass game
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Crazycryodude posted:CK3 would be intensely stupid to announce rn unless they had some kind of completely revolutionary idea (and actually delivered on it). This doesn't mean it's not CK3 tho, because while all the devs we know and love aren't usually intensely stupid, management and particularly shareholders ARE We probably have about five years top of ok games still coming out of Paradox until the publicly shared aspect of it destroys it from the inside. Ck3 would be immensely stupid considering ck2 is basically perfect as is. The only thing left to change is insignificant details.
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Oct 1, 2019 05:27
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The Narrator posted:Get Paradox to make a new Brexit-themed King of Dragon Pass game
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Oct 1, 2019 05:42
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Any kind of Brexit-themed game really. They’ve had enough time to develop one. They've anticipated it it with the CK2 decadence mechanics.
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Oct 1, 2019 05:43
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We all know it’s Vicky 4. They just decided to skip 3 because of all the expectations.
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Oct 1, 2019 06:20
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Star posted:We all know it’s Vicky 4. They just decided to skip 3 because of all the expectations. The old Leisure Suit Larry approach.
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Oct 1, 2019 07:18
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Johann marches out dressed like Ursula Le Guin and announces Warlords of Earthsea, "the game that Le Guin would have made if she were a gamer instead of a pacifist".
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Oct 1, 2019 07:36
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OddObserver posted:They've anticipated it it with the CK2 decadence mechanics. CK2: Dynasties Gammons: Football firms
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Oct 1, 2019 08:15
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drat. Now i want a CK2 After the End Brexit mod set after British society collapses and the isles are cut off from the rest of the world (2021)
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Oct 1, 2019 08:23
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Battletech: House Lords. It's not, but one can dream.
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PittTheElder posted:Oh poo poo I've changed my mind, I don't want EU5, I want Voltaire's Nightmare: The Game, non stop Imperial shenanigans! Play as a landless Knight who is a direct vassal of the Emperor for some reason! Try and get appointed Bishop of a diosese in Syria! Detailed maps of HRE make me physically ill, but I want this game to exist.
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