UKMT Red October 2019: Lies, dem libs, and polling companies.

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Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

someone needs to buy "it is a boots analogy"

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:20

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Josef bugman: Nov 17, 2011; Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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radmonger posted:

Well it _is_ true; have you never worn boots or shoes? They wear out from constant grinding abrasion, and having holes in your shoes when it’s wet sucks.

If you prefer an argument from authority, try Terry Pratchett, who as several people pointed out the analogy was derived from

The poor man is not wrong to buy cheap boots; they are not making a foolish mistake that some liberal well wisher could correct them on. They are acting according to real economic facts about the situation they are in. To wish you could buy a rich man’s boots is to wish you were rich.

In other words, if the Labour left had a well known and widely popular leader-in waiting, it wouldn’t be the Labour left. But sooner or later we are either going to have to settle for what we can afford. Something that is neither broken, nor a useless pair of flip flops.

I have, but and its important here, shoes are not people.

The whole point of the original metaphor is that it highlights an actual problem. This version is just you going "BOOTS" out of nowhere because you think it makes you sound smart.

You seemingly want the Left to do the typical "oh but please compromise" thing that we've been doing for a generation because Corbyn isn't popular at this particular moment in time. Well tough, the problems are coming home to roost and intransigence, in the face of mealy mouthed "Oh do please be reasonable" pleading from the kind of desperate fucker who doesn't want to have to change anything "too much", has suddenly become a political virtue.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:20

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Guavanaut posted:

I'm cool with letting Big John have a go after the next election.

Other than Corbyn dying mid election there's not really a scenario where this is a good idea

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:20

Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Noxville posted:

Everything is so stupid

https://twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/1179372112412315648?s=21

With the red halo it's almost so perfect you could believe it's deliberate and attempting to ape the Farage/Banks's self-styling Bad Boys of Brexit. Except Steve Baker is a born-again Christian. And a complete idiot.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:22

Tarnop: Nov 25, 2013; Pull me out

mediaphage posted:

Yes, despite what the internet thinks, mobile phones get called, too. In part because some of these dialers work by using a list of auto generated phone numbers, not actually a list from someplace.

The point still stands though. How many working people can answer their personal phone during office hours? You can't if you work in retail, you can't at most call centres.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:22

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I dunno if labour loses the next one, responding with "OK you fuckers want stalin you're loving getting him" would be my preferred approach :v:

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:23

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Say what you like about Boris but he�s a smart, funny & charming guy, and his relentlessly positive message is a blessed relief after all the doom-and-gloom Remoaning.

If he can deliver Brexit, he�ll be a national hero. We�re all sick of this pathetic partisan farce.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:23

Josef bugman: Nov 17, 2011; Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Source your quotes TB.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:24

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Say what you like about Boris but he�s a smart, funny & charming guy, and his relentlessly positive message is a blessed relief after all the doom-and-gloom Remoaning.

If he can deliver Brexit, he�ll be a national hero. We�re all sick of this pathetic partisan farce.

Boris don't you have other things you should be doing rn

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:24

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Niric posted:

With the red halo it's almost so perfect you could believe it's deliberate and attempting to ape the Farage/Banks's self-styling Bad Boys of Brexit. Except Steve Baker is a born-again Christian. And a complete idiot.

Nobody believes in Satan harder than born-again Christians.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:25

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

I can't visualise this "Corbyn is a boot" thing, Azza Bamboo can you convert it into a political cartoon?

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:25

Chucat: Apr 14, 2006

Josef bugman posted:

Source your quotes TB.

It's Piers Morgan

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:28

Cabal Ties: Feb 28, 2004; Yam Slacker

If Boris delivers brexit he�ll be off out the country within 3 months. Or hanging from tower bridge, one of the two.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:28

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Julio Cruz posted:

Boris don't you have other things you should be doing rn

Pictured: Boris Johnson gearing up to shitpost on the internet

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:28

Julio Cruz: May 19, 2006

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I can't visualise this "Corbyn is a boot" thing, Azza Bamboo can you convert it into a political cartoon?

would it help if we came up with some Sun-level pun nicknames for him

Jeremy Corboot
Jeremy Crocbyn
Wellymy Corbyn

etc

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:28

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

Disappointed none of this boots talk has anything to do with Stormzy.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:29

Quinntan: Sep 11, 2013

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Say what you like about Boris but he�s a smart, funny & charming guy, and his relentlessly positive message is a blessed relief after all the doom-and-gloom Remoaning.

If he can deliver Brexit, he�ll be a national hero. We�re all sick of this pathetic partisan farce.

Please don�t quote Piers loving Morgan without putting a health warning on that poo poo.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:29

Samovar: Jun 4, 2011; I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻

Is Twitter not loading for anyone else, or...?

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:35

VideoGames: Aug 18, 2003

Samovar posted:

Is Twitter not loading for anyone else, or...?

Hooray!

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:37

HauntedRobot: Jun 22, 2002; an excellent mod
a simple map to my heart
now give me tilt shift

Niric posted:

attempting to ape the Farage/Banks's self-styling Bad Boys of Brexit.

Already voted "most cursed calendar of 2020"

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:37

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Josef bugman posted:

I have, but and its important here, shoes are not people.

The whole point of the original metaphor is that it highlights an actual problem. This version is just you going "BOOTS" out of nowhere because you think it makes you sound smart.

You seemingly want the Left to do the typical "oh but please compromise" thing that we've been doing for a generation because Corbyn isn't popular at this particular moment in time. Well tough, the problems are coming home to roost and intransigence, in the face of mealy mouthed "Oh do please be reasonable" pleading from the kind of desperate fucker who doesn't want to have to change anything "too much", has suddenly become a political virtue.

i love super saiyan bugman

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:38

Diet Crack: Jan 15, 2001

Samovar posted:

Is Twitter not loading for anyone else, or...?

*plays earth wind and fire, celebrate*

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:39

Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Nobody believes in Satan harder than born-again Christians.

That's true. But I also don't believe Steve Baker has ever read Paradise Lost. He probably pulled the quote from FW:FW:FW:FW:FW Inspiring Jesus quotes for Brexit!!!!

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:41

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Works fine for me, also happy to report that jason donovan is trending on twitter.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:41

Niric: Jul 23, 2008

Quinntan posted:

Please don�t quote Piers loving Morgan without putting a health warning on that poo poo.

I agree Piers Morgan should have a health warning put on him

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:44

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Niric posted:

I agree Piers Morgan should have a health warning put on him

Should be forced to go around with photos stapled to him of the faces people make when they hear him

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:48

Purple Prince: Aug 20, 2011

Really don't think Tories should be quoting Milton, the slayer of Kings.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:51

Overminty: Mar 16, 2010; You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..

mediaphage posted:

Should be forced to go around with photos stapled to him of the faces people make when they hear him

or see him

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:53

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Purple Prince posted:

Really don't think Tories should be

Overminty posted:

or see him

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:53

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

radmonger posted:

Well it _is_ true; have you never worn boots or shoes? They wear out from constant grinding abrasion, and having holes in your shoes when it�s wet sucks.

If you prefer an argument from authority, try Terry Pratchett, who as several people pointed out the analogy was derived from

The poor man is not wrong to buy cheap boots; they are not making a foolish mistake that some liberal well wisher could correct them on. They are acting according to real economic facts about the situation they are in. To wish you could buy a rich man�s boots is to wish you were rich.

In other words, if the Labour left had a well known and widely popular leader-in waiting, it wouldn�t be the Labour left. But sooner or later we are either going to have to settle for what we can afford. Something that is neither broken, nor a useless pair of flip flops.

Unfortunately after 40 years of walking around on shoes made from drawing pins, broken glass, Lego pieces & rusty nails (this is a metaphor for neoliberalism) we can afford nothing less than very expensive specialist shoes from your podiatrist to counteract that horrifying mess and the decades of damage done by such bad shoes (this is radical socialism).

I hope by putting it like this that you loving drop this terrible analogy.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:53

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Niric posted:

That's true. But I also don't believe Steve Baker has ever read Paradise Lost. He probably pulled the quote from FW:FW:FW:FW:FW Inspiring Jesus quotes for Brexit!!!!

If he did, then that speaks more about his reading comprehension than anything else.

"Defy God, your fall from Heaven will be glorious!" - Jesus, probably (Deuternomics 4:20)

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:54

mfcrocker: Jan 31, 2004; Hot Rope Guy

OwlFancier posted:

Works fine for me, also happy to report that jason donovan is trending on twitter.

Now I want a kebab from Jason Donervan

# ? Oct 2, 2019 14:59

VideoGames: Aug 18, 2003

mfcrocker posted:

Now I want a kebab from Jason Donervan

I lived just down the road from that lovely stand

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:03

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

I know it�s reddit but a pharmacist is doing a slow AMA on his thoughts of brexits impact on meds:

quote:

We are already seeing problems across the board. HRT is difficult in particular. I gather there has been a lot of insulin fridge storage prepared in advance which should help. My advice is not to panic and stockpile. If we do that there will be big problems, just don't leave it to the last minute to get your prescriptions. Reorder at least 7-10 days in advance and accept some things may need to be changed.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:05

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

VideoGames posted:

I lived just down the road from that lovely stand

You lived around the triangle? Had you eaten a banker at that point?

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:08

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

mediaphage posted:

I know it’s reddit but a pharmacist is doing a slow AMA on his thoughts of brexits impact on meds:

Link please, that sounds interesting.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:09

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

Graun just posted the backstop alternative letter Johnson sent to the EU, the key page:

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:10

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Tesseraction posted:

Graun just posted the backstop alternative letter Johnson sent to the EU, the key page:

So, unless he wants to make the entire UK regulatorily aligned with the EU, points three and five are incompatible, no?

Also four requires him to restart stormont within the next few weeks.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:13

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Tesseraction posted:

Graun just posted the backstop alternative letter Johnson sent to the EU, the key page:

So it's literally the May Deal but with some handwaviness about "democracy", presumably meaning that they'll do some kind of referendum in NI?

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Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

lol it�s just the backstop with a different name.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 15:19

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