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Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



I mean, after the Twitter post, I really wish we'd gone with Broadstreet and made the mission a straight up attack run on the airfield. Shoot down the F-18?

Ah well, hindsight and all that. I know what I'm voting for when the time comes unless something more salacious than attacking the airfield comes up.

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power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

FrangibleCover posted:

The Impossible Intercept

I am disappointed that this isn’t called “The No-Op” but maybe that’s just my day job showing.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!

Radio Free Kobold posted:

so how much does a terrible, awful, garbage-rear end F/A-18C (ex-Canadian?) cost?

e: doesn't Broadstreet have some of those? make a pakistani shell company, source some garbage hornets, then shoot 'em down for the fraud money.

Still cost more than $10m, unless you're getting them for scrap. And in that case they definitely can't fly.

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.

Dance Officer posted:

Still cost more than $10m, unless you're getting them for scrap. And in that case they definitely can't fly.
But we can blow them up and take pictures of the chunks, which is good enough!

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Hmm. What if we pretended to launch the Eagle late in the night at the same time that we launch our bombing raids? Then, later on, launch the eagle with a replenished escort?

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




maybe we're overthinking this. we don't need to shoot down a hornet, we need footage and radar tracks of a hornet getting shot down, and then wrecked hornet parts on site to prove it. can we recycle sensor footage from some of our old ops, in which we shot down hornets?

i like how "how do we defraud the pakis" is generating as much commentary as "how do we accomplish the mission"

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Wait, can we make defrauding the Pakistanis a part of the mission?

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Just before everyone starts planning for this, the PIA is an invite only trade organization for Pakistani nationals involved in the local 3DP / PMC market. Unfortunately we're unable to become members.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




Yooper posted:

Just before everyone starts planning for this, the PIA is an invite only trade organization for Pakistani nationals involved in the local 3DP / PMC market. Unfortunately we're unable to become members.

:argh:

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Yooper posted:

Just before everyone starts planning for this, the PIA is an invite only trade organization for Pakistani nationals involved in the local 3DP / PMC market. Unfortunately we're unable to become members.

A minor setback. We need only find one who is... agreeable to our false-flag-fraud. Surely there is an enterprising PIA member that is interested in splitting the low-effort bounty with us.

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.
I mean, I don't think there's any better plan than TheDemon's one so there's not much to do but attempt to defraud our opponents. Is anyone still working on a plan or intending to work on one or can we vote now?

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


FrangibleCover posted:

I mean, I don't think there's any better plan than TheDemon's one so there's not much to do but attempt to defraud our opponents. Is anyone still working on a plan or intending to work on one or can we vote now?

I'm going to do the vote tomorrow, unless someone states they need some extra time.

Chunky Monkey
Jun 12, 2005
Kill the Gnome!
Just an FYI on the "bomb the runway" op, you're gonna want that Shackleton in the air sooner. WWII vintage planes don't climb fast and radar can only see to the horizon (aka the higher it is, the more it can see).

TheDemon
Dec 11, 2006

...on the plus side I'm feeling much more angry now than I expected so this totally helps me get in character.

Chunky Monkey posted:

Just an FYI on the "bomb the runway" op, you're gonna want that Shackleton in the air sooner. WWII vintage planes don't climb fast and radar can only see to the horizon (aka the higher it is, the more it can see).

I'm aware, but any sooner and we give the game away. The enemy is almost certainly going to go on alert if there's an AEW in the air.

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.

TheDemon posted:

I'm aware, but any sooner and we give the game away. The enemy is almost certainly going to go on alert if there's an AEW in the air.
What if we ferry it in from Bost and make it look like a civilian flight until it turns the radar on? Or just put it up and don't turn the radar on until it's go time.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

FrangibleCover posted:

What if we ferry it in from Bost and make it look like a civilian flight until it turns the radar on? Or just put it up and don't turn the radar on until it's go time.

It's awfully slow to be a civilian flight, isn't it?

Chunky Monkey
Jun 12, 2005
Kill the Gnome!

FrangibleCover posted:

Or just put it up and don't turn the radar on until it's go time.
This is probably the best choice.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Radio Free Kobold posted:


i like how "how do we defraud the pakis" is generating as much commentary as "how do we accomplish the mission"

In the UK at least, abbreviating Pakistani that way is generally perceived as it being a slur, just a heads up so you don't get probated for racism.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

xthetenth posted:

It's awfully slow to be a civilian flight, isn't it?

It could feasibly be a civvie prop plane. Lots of small passenger aircraft about.

Tevery Best
Oct 11, 2013

Hewlo Furriend
In a similar vein, what kind of sensors do the OPFOR have? We know they have some radars, and a bunch of old planes. How would they detect and identify the F/A-18? If we have it keep within a certain performance envelope, could we make it look like one of our planes?

orcbuster
May 17, 2017

Tevery Best posted:

In a similar vein, what kind of sensors do the OPFOR have? We know they have some radars, and a bunch of old planes. How would they detect and identify the F/A-18? If we have it keep within a certain performance envelope, could we make it look like one of our planes?

Should have gone for more hardcore recon then.

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.

Tevery Best posted:

In a similar vein, what kind of sensors do the OPFOR have? We know they have some radars, and a bunch of old planes. How would they detect and identify the F/A-18? If we have it keep within a certain performance envelope, could we make it look like one of our planes?
As long as the sensors are off it'll look like any other fighter aircraft, but it's better that it doesn't look like anything.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012










We'll vote until Friday or so.

Back to you Hired Goons!

Yooper fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Oct 2, 2019

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


Door Knocker, let's start with a bang.

slothrop
Dec 7, 2006

Santa Alpha, Fox One... Gifts Incoming ~~~>===|>

Soiled Meat
Back in the Saddle

It's simpler, and in my head, simple is better

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
door knocker

Mr Crustacean
May 13, 2009

one (1) robosexual
avatar, as ordered

Back in the saddle
Keep it simple, we're contracted to escort the fighter jet. Not to start bombing runways

FrangibleCover
Jan 23, 2018

Nothing going on in my quiet corner of the Pacific.

This is the life. I'm just lying here in my hammock in Townsville, sipping a G&T.
Door Knocker

If literally everything else goes wrong and we lose our whole air fleet the Hornet still has a 95% chance of making it out alive because it's NoE on burners beyond the radar horizon. This is simultaneously the safest and coolest option.

And I really want HG to come back with a runway strike that is, by most measures, totally unnecessary.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Back in the Saddle

Bombing a runway we're not actually getting paid to bomb on hopes that headlines will up our later fees is the Mercenary equivalent of working for exposure.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


Door Knocker

Give the client what they want. This is the US Navy, they say they want an escort, but they actually want some git-dang explosions.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Back in the saddle feels safest given our aircraft and their loadout.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Door Knocker.

The ground strike is a fun and useful element to add.

power crystals
Jun 6, 2007

Who wants a belly rub??

Back in the saddle for the reasons above.

orcbuster
May 17, 2017

Door Knocker because bombing airfields can never be boring.

Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!
Back In the Saddle

The ground strike is an unnecessary and unwise distraction.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Apologies to FrangibleCover, I missed his Operation Impossible Intercept. I've included it in the voting list.

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Door Knocker

Might as well put them on the back foot from the start.

sparkmaster
Apr 1, 2010
Door Knocker

Blowing things up > Not blowing things up

Grumio
Sep 20, 2001

in culina est
back in the saddle

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Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



Door Knocker, because if you're gonna do something, do it with style.

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