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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Josef bugman posted:

Hey quick thing, why aren't you responding to any of the justified critique of your "boots" commentary?

It's because no one can dispute my perfect takedown of the boots critique.

October 2nd, 1263 - The battle of Largs happens between Scotland & Norway. It's not very big or important but not much else has happened on this day in history.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Oct 2, 2019

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Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Johnson: "It's not a backstop! It's a... rearhalt. A behindhold. A bumshunt."

Every time I see the word "Stormont", my brain reads it as "Stormfront" and I think, wait, haven't those loving Nazis been DDOS'd out of existence yet?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Johnson: "It's not a backstop! It's a tank topped bumshunt."

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Grr - just listening to Radio 4 Extra (as it doesn't have news and I felt like radio today). They're just doing some silly quiz show "The 3rd Degree" and Steve Punt has just asked a question regarding Press TV and made sure to mention Corbyn's been on it 'when he can find the time between appearances on Russia Today'. hahaha say the audience.
I'm effin annoyed because this kind of thing is slips through into the public brain on comedy programmes when peoples' discerning listening modes are off.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

radmonger posted:

There is a reason the Tories are keen on the early election that all opposition parties are trying to delay.

it's because they want to gently caress around with election timing so we automatically leave on 31st October with No Deal, OP

marktheando posted:

As I said this didn't help at all in the Euro elections. I think people know Corbyn by this point, two years later, you aren't going to get such a dramatic turnaround again.

I'm not making actual predictions here though, with all the vote splitting on the centre and the right I think this election will be pretty much impossible to predict.

a) European election results basically never correlate with GE results since many people don't bother to vote at all and many others treat it as a protest vote
b) unlike a GE the European campaign didn't feature a manifesto with multiple new and popular policies

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

forkboy84 posted:

It's because no one can dispute my perfect takedown of the boots critique.

October 2nd, 1263 - The battle of Largs happens between Scotland & Norway. It's not very big or important but not much else has happened on this day in history.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Much like an old boot, that argument had a lot of holes in it, and radmonger was getting dunked, so the logical course of action was for him to discard the boots and never speak of them again

As much as I believe in these two I do have something else that I like to look at.

It's how we hide from failure. In particular we hide from failure because we hide from pain and loss. For good reason, pain and loss are poo poo, but I think a whole lot of the "never apologise, never explain, just keep talking" manner in which the world is run should be ended for the simple reason that it prevents us from seeing things clearly.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Payndz posted:

Johnson: "It's not a backstop! It's a... rearhalt. A behindhold. A bumshunt."

Every time I see the word "Stormont", my brain reads it as "Stormfront" and I think, wait, haven't those loving Nazis been DDOS'd out of existence yet?

"im not owned! im not owned!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a back stop

Firos
Apr 30, 2007

Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism



Josef bugman posted:

As much as I believe in these two I do have something else that I like to look at.

It's how we hide from failure. In particular we hide from failure because we hide from pain and loss. For good reason, pain and loss are poo poo, but I think a whole lot of the "never apologise, never explain, just keep talking" manner in which the world is run should be ended for the simple reason that it prevents us from seeing things clearly.

https://twitter.com/iresimpsonsfans/status/1179418134387802113?s=21

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
If you need a break from usless centrist posters or the Tory conference, WDTATW's 100th (definitely 100 shhh) episode is about Alpha Centauri and the politics of the game and factions therein, which made me not dislike that game for about twenty minutes. I recommend it!

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry
Communist Cosmonaut Corbyn Party

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

The most general survey shows us that the two foes of human happiness are pain and boredom. We may go further, and say that in the degree in which we are fortunate enough to get away from the one, we approach the other. Life presents, in fact, a more or less violent oscillation between the two.

The reason of this is that each of these two poles stands in a double antagonism to the other, external or objective, and inner or subjective. Needy surroundings and poverty produce pain; while, if a man is more than well off, he is bored. Accordingly, while the lower classes are engaged in a ceaseless struggle with need, in other words, with pain, the upper carry on a constant and often desperate battle with boredom.
Boredom, of course, being the driving force behind writing sharticles for the Economist.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

Guavanaut posted:

Boredom, of course, being the driving force behind writing sharticles for the Economist.

And pain being the result

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Grr - just listening to Radio 4 Extra (as it doesn't have news and I felt like radio today). They're just doing some silly quiz show "The 3rd Degree" and Steve Punt has just asked a question regarding Press TV and made sure to mention Corbyn's been on it 'when he can find the time between appearances on Russia Today'. hahaha say the audience.
I'm effin annoyed because this kind of thing is slips through into the public brain on comedy programmes when peoples' discerning listening modes are off.

I had a quick look to see who else has been on it and uh

quote:

LBC’s Nick Ferrari provoked the row by resigning as a Press TV presenter in protest at the Iranian government’s crushing of demonstrations in the wake of the June presidential elections. Others, including
Peter Wilby, writing in the New Statesman, and the Tory blogger Iain Dale, boldly announced that they would no longer appear as guests on the channel, as if they had not been aware, when they were happily collecting cheques from Press TV, that the channel was owned and funded by the mullahocracy in Iran.

also Boris Johnson's dad like a month ago. have these lefties no shame???

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

how can I hide from failure, when I am not chris grayling?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/SunApology/status/1179421182816374784?s=20

Brendan is at it again

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Five days. It took the BBC five days to let that arse hole back on TV after he called for a violent right wing revolution.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Grr - just listening to Radio 4 Extra (as it doesn't have news and I felt like radio today). They're just doing some silly quiz show "The 3rd Degree" and Steve Punt has just asked a question regarding Press TV and made sure to mention Corbyn's been on it 'when he can find the time between appearances on Russia Today'. hahaha say the audience.
I'm effin annoyed because this kind of thing is slips through into the public brain on comedy programmes when peoples' discerning listening modes are off.

I mean, Corbyn did appear on Press TV and RT and that was bad and he shouldn't have. I can't really complain about a comedian making jokes about the times a politician legitimately hosed up.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?


stfu snobs, I should be able to form my own opinions on whether the planet simultaneously catching fire and drowning is bad

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/LeaskyHT/status/1179418566237536257?s=19

Just saying it out loud now

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

floofyscorp posted:

I looked up the origins of pogchamp/poggers recently because I had to explain to my manager why our youngest programmer says 'pogchamp' when he's excited about something.

It's silly. A streamer won a pog tournament and his expression of triumph was funny enough to turn into an emote. That's it.

ST:TNG was prophetic - our language is going full "Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra":

"Gootecks, when the pogs fell". (Turns out the pogchamp guy goes by "Gootecks").

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Grr - just listening to Radio 4 Extra (as it doesn't have news and I felt like radio today). They're just doing some silly quiz show "The 3rd Degree" and Steve Punt has just asked a question regarding Press TV and made sure to mention Corbyn's been on it 'when he can find the time between appearances on Russia Today'. hahaha say the audience.
I'm effin annoyed because this kind of thing is slips through into the public brain on comedy programmes when peoples' discerning listening modes are off.

If you want to be angry about BBC comedy watch this:

https://twitter.com/GeoffNorcott/status/1179055023881441280?s=20

I'm sorry


Also, Azza Bamboo's "We always land right here" comic is doing numbers on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/dbyjjb/vote_libdem_get_tories/

I'm sorry, again.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Comrade Fakename posted:

lol it’s just the backstop with a different name.

to be honest this is prob enough to work on most gammons

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

WhatEvil posted:

If you want to be angry about BBC comedy watch this:

https://twitter.com/GeoffNorcott/status/1179055023881441280?s=20

I'm sorry

I got as far as the bit where his cat calls him a prick. Dude seems pretty mad though

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Liberal in "preferring fascism to socialism" shocker.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

He is a prick. He's on The Mash Report every week now.

Now for some good comedy (sound on):

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1179413549493424129?s=20

E:

And some more good comedy:

https://twitter.com/barneyfarmer/status/1179424263872405504?s=20

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 2, 2019

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

The Deleter posted:

If you need a break from usless centrist posters or the Tory conference, WDTATW's 100th (definitely 100 shhh) episode is about Alpha Centauri and the politics of the game and factions therein, which made me not dislike that game for about twenty minutes. I recommend it!

Thanks for this, it's just what I needed right now

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

WhatEvil posted:

Also, Azza Bamboo's "We always land right here" comic is doing numbers on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/dbyjjb/vote_libdem_get_tories/

I'm sorry, again.

nice, who posted it there? you?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Comrade Fakename posted:

I mean, Corbyn did appear on Press TV and RT and that was bad and he shouldn't have. I can't really complain about a comedian making jokes about the times a politician legitimately hosed up.

Sure, but he gets constant poo poo for it while a variety of right-wingers get a free pass for the same thing. The problem isn't that he has appeared on them but rather what the commentator is implying that suggests about him.

JA is right to point out that mainstream comedy is full of these little 'jokes' about corbyn/labour's supposed antisemitism, terrorist connections, Stalinism etc etc, and that this normalises these things as truth because they're superficially lighthearted comedy programmes as opposed to more overtly political ones where people expect guests to be 'playing politics'.

I got really mad with Frankie Boyle in his latest show for doing this exact thing. It's a cheap, lazy way to get a laugh and more to the point it directly feeds into establishment support. Boyle is usually great and it was particularly disappointing to hear from someone who should know better.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Tesseraction posted:

nice, who posted it there? you?

Nah some random. It's been posted around a bit on twitter so somebody must have picked it up on there.

Didn't link the original tweet though, just saved and posted the image without credit to Azza. Wankers.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Comrade Fakename posted:

I mean, Corbyn did appear on Press TV and RT and that was bad and he shouldn't have. I can't really complain about a comedian making jokes about the times a politician legitimately hosed up.

What other outlets were giving Jeremy Corbyn airtime incidentally? Oh, that's right, before 2015 exactly gently caress all of them. You go where you can to get a platform to put your views out.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Josef bugman posted:

Hey quick thing, why aren't you responding to any of the justified critique of your "boots" commentary?

I did respond to most of it; you really.expect detailed response to each of seven people saying ‘I don’t get it; why doesn’t the stupid poor person just buy some good boots?’ or context-free insults.

I think it was you who did make a valid point, that boots are not people. Treating a person like Corbyn, who has done many great things for a very long time, as an object is indeed disrespectful and wrong. But there is a limit to how sentimental you can afford to be at the level of national politics.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
McVey on some of the new innovations in housing.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1178658836779024385

I guess she thinks that until recently everyone lived in flats :dadjoke:

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


forkboy84 posted:

Unfortunately after 40 years of walking around on shoes made from drawing pins, broken glass, Lego pieces & rusty nails (this is a metaphor for neoliberalism) we can afford nothing less than very expensive specialist shoes from your podiatrist to counteract that horrifying mess and the decades of damage done by such bad shoes (this is radical socialism).

I hope by putting it like this that you loving drop this terrible analogy.

As a healthcare professional hospital admin worker, I can further your analogy by pointing out that very expensive orthotic devices are available free at the point of use on the NHS :eng101:

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
Parliament gonna be prorogued again, lol


FiftySeven posted:

the public believes literally every stupid lie the right wing says.

As soon as another labour leader with a leftish manifesto crops up, exactly the same thing would happen to them with regards media coverage. Establishment fuckers care about the threat that his policies bring to profit margins, and anything but the most insipid neoliberal guff would bring about a similar response.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Just had a letter from WOOOOOOAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH OHHHHHHHHHH Thangam Debbonaire pointing out that she's up for reselection soon :getin:

Guavanaut posted:

McVey on some of the new innovations in housing.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1178658836779024385

I guess she thinks that until recently everyone lived in flats :dadjoke:

Designing buildings on a computer. The loving future-forward genius thinking on display here.

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

DesperateDan posted:

As soon as another labour leader with another leftish manifesto crops up, exactly the same thing would happen to them with regards media coverage. Establishment fuckers care about the threat that his policies bring to profit margins, and anything but the most insipid neoliberal guff would bring about a similar response

When you buy a new pair of boots, you know that eventually the soles will wear out. The relevant word is ‘eventually’; you can get some walking in between now and then.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

radmonger posted:

I did respond to most of it; you really.expect detailed response to each of seven people saying ‘I don’t get it; why doesn’t the stupid poor person just buy some good boots?’ or context-free insults.

I think it was you who did make a valid point, that boots are not people. Treating a person like Corbyn, who has done many great things for a very long time, as an object is indeed disrespectful and wrong. But there is a limit to how sentimental you can afford to be at the level of national politics.

No I expect one that actually lays out why you are attempting to move on from a metaphor which clearly failed.

It was indeed me. However the problem is that, instead of standing around and going "oh dear" there is something you can do. Have an arguement. If you think Corbyn should eventually step down then I wouldn't say I am against it, but have an answer to obvious questions "like whom" and "how does this prevent the right from just taking over Labour again" and the final one "And how do you think this would actually improve things"? Thus far everything that comes out about needing to be rid of "Corbyn" is a reaction to how things could be, as opposed to how things are.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

if you wear your shoes on your head and do a hand stand so the boots darg on the ground when you walkie talking then you are more stable than labours brexit position and your socks wont get as stinky

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


radmonger posted:

When you buy a new pair of boots, you know that eventually the soles will wear out. The relevant word is ‘eventually’; you can get some walking in between now and then.

Shut the gently caress up and quit sealioning boots you complete fuckwit

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

#fbubpiss

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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

radmonger posted:

When you buy a new pair of boots, you know that eventually the soles will wear out. The relevant word is ‘eventually’; you can get some walking in between now and then.

When you buy good boots and the soles wear out then you take them to a specialist and they chuck new soles on them, whereas your metaphorical situation truly can't be fixed even by the guy the people at timpsons recommended

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