Aeronautical Insanity: switching to secondary tolerances

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Humphreys: Jan 26, 2013; We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule

Molentik posted:

You'd have to wait until it's on the ground for that kind of excitement!

Bravo!

Edit for new page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSK2f2Kfl4Q

# ? Sep 29, 2019 14:49

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 19:26

ThisIsJohnWayne: Feb 23, 2007; Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!

Now that's a stylish airplane.

# ? Sep 29, 2019 15:07

Humphreys: Jan 26, 2013; We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule

# ? Sep 29, 2019 15:08

Munin: Nov 14, 2004

Humphreys posted:

Bravo!

Edit for new page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSK2f2Kfl4Q

Pancho Barnes getting a call-out in the description. Now there was an impressive aviator.

# ? Sep 29, 2019 16:48

Ardeem: Sep 16, 2010; There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Humphreys posted:

Bravo!

Edit for new page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSK2f2Kfl4Q

Now that's a fantastic looking race plane, but I kind of wish that G-TATR was on a plane more deservering of a potato epitath.

# ? Sep 29, 2019 22:19

ewe2: Jul 1, 2009

Groda posted:

The wings fell off.

That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.

# ? Sep 30, 2019 05:37

dupersaurus: Aug 1, 2012; Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

e.pilot posted:

Look at this guy with poor taste.

Looks better than the Constellation!

# ? Sep 30, 2019 14:33

e.pilot: Nov 20, 2011; sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

dupersaurus posted:

Looks better than the Constellation!

# ? Sep 30, 2019 15:40

marumaru: May 20, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj8h6yibHHc

This loving thing can't come soon enough.

# ? Sep 30, 2019 18:21

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

The RAAF seems really determined to have an oopsie with their C-17s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ZjiKPhSkQ

# ? Sep 30, 2019 21:11

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

No more F-111 fireballs...gotta do something.

# ? Sep 30, 2019 21:13

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

# ? Sep 30, 2019 21:46

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012; ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Platystemon posted:

Stupid game's lagged out again

# ? Oct 1, 2019 00:19

fknlo: Jul 6, 2009; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/Emergidoc/status/1178781464097374208?s=20

# ? Oct 1, 2019 01:04

Finger Prince: Jan 5, 2007

fknlo posted:

https://twitter.com/Emergidoc/status/1178781464097374208?s=20

I have seen some wild poo poo on the ramp, but that is beyond everything! I hope that one rampie that got hit is ok!

# ? Oct 1, 2019 01:18

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

says the guy still gets cited for damaging two pieces of equipment because :smith:

# ? Oct 1, 2019 02:45

FuturePastNow: May 19, 2014

Brisbane has a pretty good air show huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INfl-Bh2ieQ

# ? Oct 1, 2019 03:46

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

BIG HEADLINE posted:

The RAAF seems really determined to have an oopsie with their C-17s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ZjiKPhSkQ

drat, I wish the A350 "flyby" had been as cool as that.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 04:13

azflyboy: Nov 9, 2005

BIG HEADLINE posted:

says the guy still gets cited for damaging two pieces of equipment because .

This.

Regional airlines treat their rampers worse than flight attendants, which is saying something, and the push towards outsourcing everything just exacerbates the issue.

As an example, the airline I work for has their own rampers in Seattle, and since our parent company successfully argued the minimum wage doesn't apply to them, they make less than the guy flipping burgers at the McDonalds in the terminal. Since the pay isn't great and the working conditions suck, turnover is absurd, and we'll threaten to fire them for getting a flight out late, even if the problem was down to the cheap equipment we give them or the perpetual lack of staffing on the ramp.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 06:34

Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

azflyboy posted:

This.

Regional airlines treat their rampers worse than flight attendants, which is saying something, and the push towards outsourcing everything just exacerbates the issue.

As an example, the airline I work for has their own rampers in Seattle, and since our parent company successfully argued the minimum wage doesn't apply to them, they make less than the guy flipping burgers at the McDonalds in the terminal. Since the pay isn't great and the working conditions suck, turnover is absurd, and we'll threaten to fire them for getting a flight out late, even if the problem was down to the cheap equipment we give them or the perpetual lack of staffing on the ramp.

lol yeah I like supporting my hometown airlines but I'm not super proud of that.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 06:40

babyeatingpsychopath: Oct 28, 2000; Forum Veteran

azflyboy posted:

This.

Regional airlines treat their rampers worse than flight attendants, which is saying something, and the push towards outsourcing everything just exacerbates the issue.

As an example, the airline I work for has their own rampers in Seattle, and since our parent company successfully argued the minimum wage doesn't apply to them, they make less than the guy flipping burgers at the McDonalds in the terminal. Since the pay isn't great and the working conditions suck, turnover is absurd, and we'll threaten to fire them for getting a flight out late, even if the problem was down to the cheap equipment we give them or the perpetual lack of staffing on the ramp.

Same here. A rampie I know said in the summer when the weather is truly unbearable with all the safety gear on, they have 40% turnover PER WEEK. If you stick on for a month, you could have seniority on your shift. Pay is still less than in the terminal, and roughly half what the guys over on the Amazon ramp make.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 11:38

buttcrackmenace: Nov 14, 2007; see its right there in the manual where it says; Grimey Drawer

fknlo posted:

https://twitter.com/Emergidoc/status/1178781464097374208?s=20

the sequel is never as good as the original

# ? Oct 1, 2019 14:14

AzureSkys: Apr 27, 2003

I hired in for one of those Seattle airline ramp jobs almost 20 years ago. A few months prior to that a young guy was killed as his baggage tug pinned him against the plane. I was told there was a habit for people to leave them in gear and just pull the parking brake lever. He rushed to get some last minute bags to the plane and had them sitting in the passenger seat of the tug. As he was opening the cargo door a bag slipped off, hit the brake release and the tug crawled towards the plane. He tried to push back against it to keep it from hitting the plane.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 14:32

dexter6: Sep 22, 2003

buttcrackmenace posted:

the sequel is never as good as the original

Didn�t have to click, but definitely still clicked.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 15:17

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

azflyboy posted:

This.

Regional airlines treat their rampers worse than flight attendants, which is saying something, and the push towards outsourcing everything just exacerbates the issue.

As an example, the airline I work for has their own rampers in Seattle, and since our parent company successfully argued the minimum wage doesn't apply to them, they make less than the guy flipping burgers at the McDonalds in the terminal. Since the pay isn't great and the working conditions suck, turnover is absurd, and we'll threaten to fire them for getting a flight out late, even if the problem was down to the cheap equipment we give them or the perpetual lack of staffing on the ramp.

How much more pay is a Q400 worth.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 15:23

azflyboy: Nov 9, 2005

hobbesmaster posted:

How much more pay is a Q400 worth.

Horizon was in the process of drawing down their Q400 fleet at the time, so Air Group management was mostly pissed that he crashed one of the newer Q's instead of an older one they were gonna park anyway.

Charles posted:

lol yeah I like supporting my hometown airlines but I'm not super proud of that.

Between the minimum wage thing (every other airline at SEA was smart enough to hide behind a trade group), encouraging employees to vote for specific people in local elections, and sending out random unsolicited emails saying that Air Group opposes a higher minimum wage, I'm thinking Alaska should just change their billboards to read "gently caress you, Seattle!", since it's way more accurate.

azflyboy fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Oct 1, 2019

# ? Oct 1, 2019 20:49

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

azflyboy posted:

I'm thinking Alaska should just change their billboards to read "gently caress you, Seattle!", since it's way more accurate.

I fly out to Seattle on Alaska roughly once or twice each year, and while I've every intention of spending my miles on free flights, does Delta treat their ground crew at SEA better? I know they're trying to knock Alaska's dick in at SEA while also making it their US>Pacific International hub, but I'm willing to reward a company that treats its workers even slightly better in exchange for slightly higher fares.

# ? Oct 1, 2019 21:38

azflyboy: Nov 9, 2005

I�m not sure. Alaska now outsources the ramp work to themselves (it�s done by McGee Aviation, which is just a division of Alaska), and I think Deltahas an identical setup with their own spinoff company.

Both Alaska and Delta fought the minimum wage hike (and Delta had the �instead of union dues and a living wage, YOU CAN BUY VIDEO GAMES!� posters in break rooms, but were smart enough to hide behind a trade group at SEA), so they�re probably equal levels of rear end in a top hat to ramp workers.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 00:36

Butt Reactor: Oct 6, 2005; Even in zero gravity, you're an asshole.

azflyboy posted:

I’m not sure. Alaska now outsources the ramp work to themselves (it’s done by McGee Aviation, which is just a division of Alaska), and I think Deltahas an identical setup with their own spinoff company.

Both Alaska and Delta fought the minimum wage hike (and Delta had the “instead of union dues and a living wage, YOU CAN BUY VIDEO GAMES!” posters in break rooms, but were smart enough to hide behind a trade group at SEA), so they’re probably equal levels of rear end in a top hat to ramp workers.

Delta has DGS (~~Don't Give a poo poo~~Delta Ground Services), United has UGE (not yuuuuge, just United Ground Express) and American has Envoy/PSA/Piedmont handling ground ops (see a trend here?). It's gotten to the point that airlines don't really handle ground operations anymore, it's contracted out to multiple vendors to minimize cost maximize profit. My employer has had to cut back to the point that our airport operations department is nonexistent, especially after laying off 650 people just before "appreciation" week.

# ? Oct 2, 2019 03:16

Aargh: Sep 8, 2004

And an internal view of that RAAF C-17

https://youtu.be/sxSyKSR_c3g

# ? Oct 2, 2019 05:47

BIG HEADLINE: Jun 13, 2006; "Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Aargh posted:

And an internal view of that RAAF C-17

https://youtu.be/sxSyKSR_c3g

# ? Oct 2, 2019 05:57

fknlo: Jul 6, 2009; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/WFSBnews/status/1179399045854515207?s=20

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# ? Oct 2, 2019 16:01