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ShutteredIn posted:They absolutely played this up like it was going to be related to the IG news. Oh for sure. I'm sore about this being loving nothing, this is such a dumb thing to waste time on. Retro42 posted:Did everyone forget the ICIG meeting was later today? The State Department's IG wanted an emergency meeting thing that was supposed to be happening this morning IIRC
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s closed door so don’t expect immediate fireworks. Don't people in the room usually text their media contacts as the meeting goes on?
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PRAYERFULLY. jfc, the  is stifling.
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pelosi established just now that the dems are still on the high road accomplishing nothing besides covering their own asses while the gop low-roaders are doing whatever they want cuz they don't care. gently caress.
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And its over. No further questions. What the fuckin' hell lol. My expectations for this were low and this managed to fail to achieve them.
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Every day these idiots show up on TV again I am reminded of Al Qaeda's failure. Thanks Osama.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Every day these idiots show up on TV again I am reminded of Al Qaeda's failure. huh? bin laden won.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Sure seems like maybe they're in Italy because they're trying to be plausibly as removed as possible from being physically dragged in front of congress or for that matter arrested. Italy is the birthplace of fascism. It's like going to Mecca for Nazis.
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scuz posted:pelosi established just now that the dems are still on the high road accomplishing nothing besides covering their own asses while the gop low-roaders are doing whatever they want cuz they don't care. gently caress. when they go low, we go high. *spends three years getting pummeled in the crotch by GOP low blows* ah yes...the moral victory
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"Good morning everyone, we want to reiterate that dogs still cannot play basketball. Thank you. Also, does anyone want to talk about prescription drug prices?!"
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goethe.cx posted:they’re still planning to go ahead with subpoenas and whatnot so I’m not sure what all the doom and gloom is about other than pelosi’s usual bullshit Because they didn't talk about the bombshells from an ICIG hearing that hasn't happened yet
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ought ten posted:Funny, a member who’s a pelosi ally said something very similar in private last night, that impeachment has been sad. I guess that’s the talking point Jokes aside, I'm actually fine with this messaging. It's good that Democrats are making it clear that this isn't a political fight, in part because Republicans would happily impeach the gently caress out of any Democratic president if they thought they could reasonably get away with it. The focus on this being a constitutional fight is good and right. The lack of urgency is not.
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goethe.cx posted:they’re still planning to go ahead with subpoenas and whatnot so I’m not sure what all the doom and gloom is about other than pelosi’s usual bullshit I thought she was finally on board with impeachment. Now I don't even know. It feels like she sees an official inquiry as a distraction she's being compelled to recognize as somewhat legitimate.
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Babby is mad https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179415529074900992?s=19 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179418523682168839?s=19 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179420554601910272?s=19 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1179418734764711937?s=19 (he pinned this one)
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goethe.cx posted:they’re still planning to go ahead with subpoenas and whatnot so I’m not sure what all the doom and gloom is about other than pelosi’s usual bullshit because the actual process of impeachment involves starting the investigation with a floor vote that grants a lot more power to the committee in charge and she's refusing to even loving acknowledge that she's aware of that
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goethe.cx posted:they’re still planning to go ahead with subpoenas and whatnot so I’m not sure what all the doom and gloom is about other than pelosi’s usual bullshit People itt for some reason expect her to be someone that she hasn't been for decades, to speak to them directly when a lot of what is expressed itt is actually, unfortunately, fairly fringe in US politics. Makes for great anger and commiseration fodder but pretty lovely commentary.
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Groovelord Neato posted:huh? bin laden won.
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quote:Another text message exchange introduced at her sentencing occurred just two days before Guyger fatally shot Jean. This rear end in a top hat is toast
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smaller than my old one." She added seconds later, "It's okay, I'm the same."
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Paradoxish posted:The lack of urgency is not. Schiff emphasized urgency is important. He said he wants real progress to happen in weeks, not months.
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goethe.cx posted:they’re still planning to go ahead with subpoenas and whatnot so I’m not sure what all the doom and gloom is about other than pelosi’s usual bullshit this and schiff did really well and pelosi as decorumy as she was isnt gonna stop it. BigBallChunkyTime posted:Babby is mad he shook.
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Paradoxish posted:Jokes aside, I'm actually fine with this messaging. It's good that Democrats are making it clear that this isn't a political fight, in part because Republicans would happily impeach the gently caress out of any Democratic president if they thought they could reasonably get away with it. The focus on this being a constitutional fight is good and right. The lack of urgency is not. There doesn't seem to be any lack of urgency...? The committees are already scheduling depositions and subpoenaing documents.
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just to be super clear, pelosi's 'we're beginning formal impeachment' meant nothing on its own. Nothing has actually changed, impeachment inquiries require a vote to begin and even though she almost certainly DOES have the votes, she's just pussyfooting around to look like she supports it.
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skylined! posted:If there are any alums/students floating in this thread, sorry about your lovely swamp school That won't go well.
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GlyphGryph posted:I thought she was finally on board with impeachment. Now I don't even know. It feels like she sees an official inquiry as a distraction she's being compelled to recognize as somewhat legitimate. Coming out and saying that he's definitely guilty and a big criminal before the actual investigation is concluded delegitimizes the process, and the entire dem caucus has been pretty weary of delegitimizing any government process because their counterparts are doing exactly that. Like, if you listened to her objectively it's pretty obvious what she's trying to do. It's fine to disagree with it but the insistence on just outright misrepresenting her itt is weird.
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GlyphGryph posted:Schiff emphasized urgency is important. He said he wants real progress to happen in weeks, not months. Which, according to a lot of people, is too fast.
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sexpig by night posted:because the actual process of impeachment involves starting the investigation with a floor vote that grants a lot more power to the committee in charge and she's refusing to even loving acknowledge that she's aware of that I’m not entirely sure that the vote is needed though. The House leadership announced that they are doing an investigation so I think that is all they needed to do.
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If the Democrats keep acting like spineless pussies the Republicans are going to do to this investigation what they did to Mueller. Everytime they appear on TV they need to be openly hammering this administration for it's lawlessness. They need to be voting on impeachment, not doing half-assed investigation while the Republicans keep punching them in the junk. I wish the Democrats would do to Pelosi what the Republicans did to Boehner. Certainly changed their fortunes.
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Paradoxish posted:Jokes aside, I'm actually fine with this messaging. It's good that Democrats are making it clear that this isn't a political fight, in part because Republicans would happily impeach the gently caress out of any Democratic president if they thought they could reasonably get away with it. The focus on this being a constitutional fight is good and right. The lack of urgency is not. you ever read a take so bad it just saps all the energy from your body for a few seconds
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skylined! posted:People itt for some reason expect her to be someone that she hasn't been for decades, to speak to them directly when a lot of what is expressed itt is actually, unfortunately, fairly fringe in US politics. Impeachment is very much mainstream right now, and it's weird as hell that Pelosi is still seemingly opposed to opening up an official inquiry. I fully expected that vote to happen this week, so the only news from this presser was that it might not even happen at all because she doesn't think its necessary (even though the Republicans don't want it to happen)
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:There doesn't seem to be any lack of urgency...? The committees are already scheduling depositions and subpoenaing documents. Then why are they delaying bringing it to the floor? This is already a talking point that Republicans are using: quote:A House Republican and ally of President Trump on Monday criticized Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) handling of the impeachment inquiry, saying if she were serious about the effort, she would bring it up for a floor vote. And yes, The Hill is trash. It was just the first hit that had the actual quotes in it.
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Well if the presser was supposed to make Trump tweet more, uh mission accomplished I guess.
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Sure would be cool if the Democrats did something incremental, radical, and meaningful, like nationalize insulin production and provide it free of charge to all diabetics.
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goethe.cx posted:...pelosi’s usual bullshit Eh, for me, I let myself get hopeful for the first time in years when all this started breaking last week. Now the happiness has faded and I’m just increasingly angry about everything. I just feel patronized by her, like my anger is silly and we all need to sit down and pat each other on the back about Democrats doing serious work to pass legislation that will be immediately thrown in the bin by the Republicans instead of getting loving upset at all the illegal stuff the president is obviously doing. I realize this is on me for daring to hope for anything.
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skylined! posted:Coming out and saying that he's definitely guilty and a big criminal before the actual investigation is concluded delegitimizes the process, and the entire dem caucus has been pretty weary of delegitimizing any government process because their counterparts are doing exactly that. She doesn't have to come out and say "he's definitely guilty and a big criminal", she just has to say "the stuff we have found is real and appears to be illegal, so we're holding a vote and hopefully opening up a formal inquiry so we can uncover the truth" or something to that extent. Her overwhelming message is that the illegal stuff Trump is doing is not all that important.
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Retro42 posted:I’m not entirely sure that the vote is needed though. The House leadership announced that they are doing an investigation so I think that is all they needed to do. it is actually literally needed, she needs the formal inquiry to begin to open up a lot of power to the house to get around a lot of these roadblocks
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GlyphGryph posted:Impeachment is very much mainstream right now, and it's weird as hell that Pelosi is still seemingly opposed to opening up an official inquiry. She announced on TV last Tuesday that they had opened an official impeachment inquiry though...? She reiterated the seriousness of their inquiry just now, like 10 minutes ago, while roasting trump's actions the way you might expect a septuagenarian lifelong politician to. A vote isn't necessary. You can continue to ignore reality but don't act like you doing so is worthy of debate. GlyphGryph posted:She doesn't have to come out and say "he's definitely guilty and a big criminal", she just has to say "the stuff we have found is real and appears to be illegal, so we're holding a vote and hopefully opening up a formal inquiry so we can uncover the truth" or something to that extent. Do you not realize that an impeachment inquiry was officially opened a week ago?
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