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From the full clip it looks like he’s answering the question “which is worse”; not “which would you prefer?”, but because the question was restated a few times just as “Corbyn or no deal?” it’s not so clear unless you see the full clip. Not that it matters really I guess.
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Beefeater1980 posted:From the full clip it looks like he’s answering the question “which is worse”; not “which would you prefer?”, but because the question was restated a few times just as “Corbyn or no deal?” it’s not so clear unless you see the full clip. I thought that as well. He then says "I cannot support it/him", but the final word is masked by the reporter spaffing in his pants.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...obox=1570037709 Uhhhh is this true? Boris is going to prorogue parliament again for another week? What the actual gently caress is going on? Can some of you cleverer people make any sense of this?
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quidditch it and quit it posted:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...obox=1570037709 Yeah he's prorogueing it again. This time legally because it's a normal one, though one wonders whether it should have been permitted given the last ruling. Would have said "No more prorogues while Joris is PM" personally.
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Presumably they’ll claim they’re not suspending it ‘again’ because technically it was now never suspended the first time, right?
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Oct 2, 2019 23:24
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https://twitter.com/MikeDorning/status/1179500533654196224 gently caress
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Probably, yes. People are always more receptive to a friendly face than to a distant media, and just giving people a chance to let off steam about what annoys them can be amazingly effective. Labour always tie it up with GOTV drives too, because for every person you can flip from voting for another party there are probably 10 people who just don't vote at all. I'm extremely goony too, 100% prefer just putting lealets through doors, but at the end of 2 hours actual knocking even without having any charm or nouse it does still feel like I've helped sway the dial. The only strategy I ever do is be super polite, if they want to talk then listen to them talk about what is loving them off and then respond with a loose tying of how government actually trying to help them for a change would help with their X problem, which is almost always true and you just have three policies you've memorised that back it up, and that we cannot afford another financial crash like 2008. Basic stuff like 'the kids are alright they just need a fair chance' hits so much harder than you'd think when it's just a person talking directly to another person. Then you all go to the pub after and it's fun. Anyone on the fence or that thinks they are too goony to help should just go for it, if you want the people in your community to still have an NHS in a decade then be brave and help them fight for it.
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Sorry, we interrupted this UKMT because we need to talk about what Donald Trump just tweeted.
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Ms Adequate posted:Sorry, we interrupted this UKMT because we need to talk about what Donald Trump just tweeted. What is it? A happy birthday to you?
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 if true:https://twitter.com/Lokinash06/status/1179412933190791170 quote:Lib Dem chiefs believe they can win an unprecedented Commons majority with a secret “Project 320” plan. 320 everyday  There's unrealistic expectations, and then there's unrealistic expectations. Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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ONE HUNDRED POUNDS A MONTH! These absolute insane morons.
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Ague Proof posted:Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government. Part of me, a dark part I don't particularly like, wants to see the Lib-Dems lose everything in this election. They don't get a single seat. No, they get one seat, and the Greens get two so they have to watch as their centrist balloon collapses like a loving poorly constructed cake.
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Josef bugman posted:Part of me, a dark part I don't particularly like, wants to see the Lib-Dems lose everything in this election. They don't get a single seat. No, they get one seat, and the Greens get two so they have to watch as their centrist balloon collapses like a loving poorly constructed cake. That sounds like a pretty good part to me.
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Josef bugman posted:Part of me, a dark part I don't particularly like, wants to see the Lib-Dems lose everything in this election. They don't get a single seat. No, they get one seat, and the Greens get two so they have to watch as their centrist balloon collapses like a loving poorly constructed cake. It's good to realise that this sort of desire isn't worthwhile, mostly because it's bad but also because I don't think people like Jo Swinson et al are even capable of the sort of introspection needed to have one's dreams crushed.
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I want to see the libs self own into oblivion, and I personally feel great and justified in wanting that Podcast chat - The episode has been slightly delayed because G-Man's vermicelli is not as superinformative as it could be, so it'll be with everyone by lunchtime tomorrow.
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Josef bugman posted:Part of me, a dark part I don't particularly like, wants to see the Lib-Dems lose everything in this election. They don't get a single seat. No, they get one seat, and the Greens get two so they have to watch as their centrist balloon collapses like a loving poorly constructed cake. That is an extremely positive urge in a moral sense but materially we want the Lib Dems to actually do quite well as almost all their target marginals are Lib Dem-Tory. Don't forget that the Lib Dems are demonic but the Tories are actual demons, and the Lib Dem voter base has some actually okay people in it. If there are enough Lib Dem MPs to potentially prop up a Lab-Lib coalition that is a far better state than those seats being Tory, and even if the Lib Dem leadership plays the oval office that still swings a few of their decent people voters towards us when the reasons they played the oval office are even gently examined which in coalition discussion they literally have to be.
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Trades posted:Very, very long term lurker here... just wanted to say thank you to those in the thread encouraging people to get out and campaign. Here's the most important question - how do you knock at the door? I've had to advise several excitable young middle-class types that a sharp rapping doesn't work well in working-class areas, who'll assume you're some sort of officialdom. I use the "Shave-and-a-haircut" myself, crucially leaving off the "two bits" payoff, knowing it's almost physically impossible not to respond to it. Now doorbells are tricky, because you don't know if they're the chime type - where a long press might leave too long a gap between notes for someone to register it - or the buzzer type, where a short press again might not be enough to register, but multiple presses are just obnoxious and just gets you an annoyed person at the door. (Seriously this is the kind of poo poo I think about when I'm canvassing, and I'm seriously beginning to wonder if anyone has ever done proper research on it and if not whether I have the time to do it myself)
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Vitamin P posted:That is an extremely positive urge in a moral sense but materially we want the Lib Dems to actually do quite well as almost all their target marginals are Lib Dem-Tory. They’ll never support labour over the tories. Besides, they can get owned into fuckin oblivion and still split the Tory vote enough for it to be a good thing.
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Vitamin P posted:That is an extremely positive urge in a moral sense but materially we want the Lib Dems to actually do quite well as almost all their target marginals are Lib Dem-Tory. Okay but how many of the current Lib Dem MPs are either Tories, Blue Labour or Orange Bookers.
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Vitamin P posted:I'm extremely goony too, 100% prefer just putting lealets through doors, but at the end of 2 hours actual knocking even without having any charm or nouse it does still feel like I've helped sway the dial. The only strategy I ever do is be super polite, if they want to talk then listen to them talk about what is loving them off and then respond with a loose tying of how government actually trying to help them for a change would help with their X problem, which is almost always true and you just have three policies you've memorised that back it up, and that we cannot afford another financial crash like 2008. Basic stuff like 'the kids are alright they just need a fair chance' hits so much harder than you'd think when it's just a person talking directly to another person. Also sometimes you get to talk to friendly dogs! (and never underestimate just how much of a votewinner being good with dogs can be - if Labour get the Two Cities by one vote it'll be because I knew where the special scratchy place was on an old lady's Staff. Yes I know that sounds filthy, but this is what I'm prepared to go through for socialism)
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Josef bugman posted:ONE HUNDRED POUNDS A MONTH! A fool and their money are soon parted. To me it's just further confirmation that they're heavily betting on rehabilitating themselves through Brexit. It's still massively unlikely, and loving hilarious considering that the only way the party has "grown", is to absorb failed CUKTIG melts, or Tories - it's not like they were suddenly voted in by a few million shy libs - and yet they act like they have. There's so many factors at play, and campaigns can turn on a dime, it's within the realms of possibility that they gain a few more seats, but 320 from 12 elected MPs, and 6 hangers-on when there's a general vote gap in most seats of literally 10000+ votes between them and Labour and the Tories, is loving delusional. The hope is they just end up splitting the Tory vote. Or crash and burn. Either or, really. goddamnedtwisto posted:(and never underestimate just how much of a votewinner being good with dogs can be - if Labour get the Two Cities by one vote it'll be because I knew where the special scratchy place was on an old lady's Staff. Yes I know that sounds filthy, but this is what I'm prepared to go through for socialism) I heard Fabricant did the same, but for capitalism.  https://twitter.com/Mike_Fabricant/status/1179001353777102851 Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:What is it? He tweeted a Nickelback meme. Also whilst you could as a third party outline a long-term plan to rise in stature and prominence so that you one day become one of the big boys, the idea that you can jump from eighteen to an outright majority in a single election is so vastly lol that I can't find a big enough
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Pesky Splinter posted:I heard Fabricant did the same, but for capitalism. And like all Tories he has absolutely no idea that the object of his affections just isn't into it and is being polite.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I use the "Shave-and-a-haircut" myself, crucially leaving off the "two bits" payoff, knowing it's almost physically impossible not to respond to it. Are you canvassing in Toon Town Ms Adequate posted:Also whilst you could as a third party outline a long-term plan to rise in stature and prominence so that you one day become one of the big boys, the idea that you can jump from eighteen to an outright majority in a single election is so vastly lol that I can't find a They know nobody will trust them with being in coalition for another decade or two so i guess it's go big or go home. Sadly they decided to go big
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Angepain posted:Are you canvassing in Toon Town gently caress off, I'm not going anywhere near Newcastle.
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Libdems posted:Pleading with supporters to inject funds, the letter says a £100-a-month gift would help the party “produce canvassing packs to knock on 4,000 doors in a constituency every month”. For that money, those "canvassing packs" better be a super-premium exclusive curated politics lootcrate experience delivered to your door by a drone wearing a loving bowtie
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I want to see the libs self own into oblivion, and I personally feel great and justified in wanting that Well he needs better pasta then clearly 
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goddamnedtwisto posted:gently caress off, I'm not going anywhere near Newcastle. Top door knocking advice for people who'd like to campaign for Labour but don't like talking to strangers: learn how to do the clipboard - you basically just tell everyone which doors to knock and track what the outcomes were but every canvassing group needs someone who can manage the paperwork.
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Pilchenstein posted:Bloody southerner Listen mate Enfield is north enough for me, I really don't want to go canvassing in IDS' constituency because I assume they all wear flat caps and have whippets in Chingford.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:They’ll never support labour over the tories. Vitamin P did make the point that if the LDs refuse to go into coalition with Labour, then whether or not they form one with the Tories they'll get wrecked. In 2015 they had shown the people that voting Lib Dem gives you Tories, so the half of their base who were OK with voting Tory did so. If they now let the Tories form another minority government, or if they block Labour from stopping No Deal Brexit, they will demonstrate equally well that not voting Labour also gives you Tories. That will strip away the other half of their base, who could never vote Tory but didn't really want Labour either. Honestly, though, I'm not sure if anything saves the Lib Dems now. We have a choice between a Labour government and an insane Brexit that could potentially kill more Britons than the Second World War. There's no room for centrism in that. If you don't pick a side, you will be crushed between them.
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Darth Walrus posted:Since we were talking about Thangam Debbonaire, she apparently believes that A Woman's Place are feminists who need to be defended rather than TERFs who need to be booted out, so that's not great. 
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Jedit posted:Honestly, though, I'm not sure if anything saves the Lib Dems now. We have a choice between a Labour government and an insane Brexit that could potentially kill more Britons than the Second World War. There's no room for centrism in that. If you don't pick a side, you will be crushed between them. Unfortunately they've been huffing their own farts polling wise and are now deluding themselves that (a) nobody really wants Corbyn and (b) that they have any kind of chance at a majority.
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