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Hey just stopping in to say whoever it was that suggested Icewind Dale really nailed it. So far it's been the perfect dungeon crawl, and the addition of some random loot has been a cool change from what I'm used to. Now that I can scratch this itch I can go back to BG2 and use my previous BG1 party as an a la cart list for who I want the Bhaalspawn to be. Certainly makes multiple play throughs easier to do.
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Oct 1, 2019 22:46
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pentyne posted:That was one of the slides Josh Sawyer had in his presentation of the PoE stat system. A stat of 15 was considered "good" by Ad&D standards but if you have a wizard with 15 int everything is great until level 16 and you can't cast 8th level or higher spells, which makes continued play of the PC useless. There are a million stat boosting items and as long as your DM isn't an rear end in a top hat you can always find a wizard who will make you one if you never find one in the wild.
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Oct 1, 2019 22:54
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I bought Planescape: Torment on GoG some years ago and have just now finally started to play it. But it occurs to me that I should probably now just spring for the EE instead of slogging through the old one. What do y'all think? I only found BG in 2016 or so, and I've played 1 and 2 on my phone, so playing with a mouse and keyboard as god intended is a nice change already.
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Oct 2, 2019 12:20
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Definitely get the EE. It’s the better experience by far. I wish Icewind Dale 2 had an EE. 
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Oct 2, 2019 12:37
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chaosapiant posted:Definitely get the EE. It’s the better experience by far. I wish Icewind Dale 2 had an EE. Agree with all statements here. Sadly, the source code for IWD2 was lost. Beamdog would have to completely recreate it, making it far less economically viable.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:07
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the source code is on a forgotten harddrive in rope kid’s basement
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Oct 2, 2019 17:43
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THS posted:the source code is on a forgotten harddrive in rope kid’s basement Along with the actually compete version of Van Buren.
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Oct 2, 2019 17:46
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chaosapiant posted:I wish Icewind Dale 2 had an EE. Wanted to give IWD2 a shot again but compared to the EEs it was nigh unplayable for me. 
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Oct 2, 2019 17:51
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Suspicious posted:Start with 18 in wisdom, no matter what. Charisma isn't super necessary because most dialogues offer high wisdom and high charisma paths, though there are a couple of nice charisma-only resolutions (silent king for one.) Also the game usually checks for either high intelligence OR wisdom for the smart answers so intelligence is also not super necessary unless you're going mage (you are going mage.) That said, unlocking Dak'kon's past requires both high intelligence and wisdom. Also part of Torment's thing is to invert existing D&D/RPG tropes, so: there are hardly any longswords, the rats in the basement are really dangerous, the mental stats are better than the physical ones, etc
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HoboTech posted:Hey just stopping in to say whoever it was that suggested Icewind Dale really nailed it. So far it's been the perfect dungeon crawl, and the addition of some random loot has been a cool change from what I'm used to. Now that I can scratch this itch I can go back to BG2 and use my previous BG1 party as an a la cart list for who I want the Bhaalspawn to be. Certainly makes multiple play throughs easier to do. Glad I could help! Icewind Dale is great but I admittedly have never been able to make it past the first few dungeons because I can never commit to a party makeup. Granted this was also pre-EE where there's even less class choice. Can't imagine how indecisive I'd be playing it now  I've always been curious as to what the least effective but technically useable party would be. Like whatever the "Resident Evil (PSX) Knife-Only Run" equivalent is for these IE games
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Oct 3, 2019 08:16
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I think it's generally a single-character solo run for these games.
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Oct 3, 2019 09:26
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Solo Wizard Slayer or similar
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Oct 3, 2019 09:32
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Solo single-class thief
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6 jesters
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Blood Nightmaster posted:I've always been curious as to what the least effective but technically useable party would be. Like whatever the "Resident Evil (PSX) Knife-Only Run" equivalent is for these IE games Oh this would be fun. It should also be a "first roll" or a "best of 3 rolls" for attributes party. Max impairment would be "first roll without shuffling attribute numbers" My nominees for least effective party of 6 (with traditional party roles): 1) Beast Master (ranger) 2) Barbarian or Monk 3) Melee thief (dwarf, assassin or swashbukler) 4) Melee jester 5) Shaman 6) Elf Diviner or Wild mage rocketrobot fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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Glimpse posted:Solo single-class thief Not too bad, actually. You suck at combat, but BG1 lets you stealth past or backstab just about anything, and in BG2 you get the absurdly powerful Rogue HLAs. THS posted:6 jesters Never tried it, but considering even a solo Bard does very well if you play your cards right, I imagine six of them makes the game fairly trivial. I think sebzilla is correct and solo Wizard Slayer would be the absolute worst you can do. Maybe solo Druid is worse in ToB.
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Oct 3, 2019 18:26
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Having multiple bards/jesters would be worse than trying to solo with a bard in IWD just because of scroll scarcity.
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Oct 3, 2019 18:37
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Some years ago on these very forums I remember seeing someone beat the game with a minimum (as in all 3 score) stat solo Bard.
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mitochondritom posted:Some years ago on these very forums I remember seeing someone beat the game with a minimum (as in all 3 score) stat solo Bard. Not that hard with potions and wands. Not being able to read scrolls is a real pain though. rocketrobot posted:
I made this over lunch and played for a bit. I went with "first roll only" stats and didn't modify any stat below 9 or above 14 unless it was a prime requisite, then not above 17. It's surprisingly fun because it makes the game challenging again. I just rampage through it otherwise. rocketrobot fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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Oct 3, 2019 20:14
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Beastmaster is a completely playable class, and in BG1 has a massive early advantage due to their bonus hit points. Also helps that a +1 quarterstaff is one of the earliest obtainable magic weapons, that bows are very powerful, and that every BG game has tons of good leather armour.
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I did an ironman playthrough with a beastmaster. BG1 went fine but no metal weapons or armor quickly became crippling.
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I think a solo monk would be the hardest BG1 playthrough. They're just so useless and weak at low levels.
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jBrereton posted:Beastmaster is a completely playable class, and in BG1 has a massive early advantage due to their bonus hit points. Also helps that a +1 quarterstaff is one of the earliest obtainable magic weapons, that bows are very powerful, and that every BG game has tons of good leather armour. Yeah but he died first. Then the barbarian.
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Has anyone tried the recent console versions of these? How are they?
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Have they already released for console?
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They were delayed to October 15th.
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drat so i finally got around to playing BG2 and it turns out this game is really good?? who knew. it has a really strong atmosphere and sense of, i dunno, 'mise en scene' i guess. I'm still pretty early though, just got to the copper coronet and farted around the city a bit. Now i'm gonna rock over to the cemetery and see what's up with this magic book bullshit keldorn (kaldorn? kordorn? the rear end in a top hat dwarf) is on about
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Oct 7, 2019 03:06
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Lant gulpin' dirt chute is still one of my favorite insults of all time.
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I saw the boxes in store, and it didn't look like a prerelease. I was surprised it even got a physical release, really.
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Fuligin posted:drat so i finally got around to playing BG2 and it turns out this game is really good?? who knew. it has a really strong atmosphere and sense of, i dunno, 'mise en scene' i guess. I'm still pretty early though, just got to the copper coronet and farted around the city a bit. Now i'm gonna rock over to the cemetery and see what's up with this magic book bullshit keldorn (kaldorn? kordorn? the rear end in a top hat dwarf) is on about That's Korgan. Keldorn is... well, not a dwarf at least.
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One of the things I love about the Baldur's Gate series is everything.
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sebzilla posted:That's Korgan. Keldorn is... well, not a dwarf at least. I have a newfound respect for him after he tanked through several hundred spider bites and several liters of spider venom.
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I know I've said this before, but I'm always jealous of anyone getting to play through Baldur's Gate 2 for the first time.
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chaosapiant posted:One of the things I love about the Baldur's Gate series is everything except TOB. ftfy
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hmm progress through the crypt has been stymied by a bug which causes the party to get stuck on one another in a kind of quantum superposition. Unfortunately this rare physical anomaly is stopping them from leaving the correct exit
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Oct 7, 2019 23:48
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Fuligin posted:hmm progress through the crypt has been stymied by a bug which causes the party to get stuck on one another in a kind of quantum superposition. Unfortunately this rare physical anomaly is stopping them from leaving the correct exit Change the ini to allow cheats and ctrl j the offending party members a couple feet away.
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bike tory posted:ftfy Nah, I like Throne of Bhaal. It could be better but I enjoy the high level stuff.
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Skwirl posted:Change the ini to allow cheats and ctrl j the offending party members a couple feet away. so, it turned out the reason I couldn't leave was that Jaheira was somehow trapped in the Irenicus dream. I remedied the problem by accidentally teleporting her to a town of ghouls who promptly ripped her apart, rip. Anyway we're free to continue, with the prospect of perhaps one day stumbling upon her corpse and the loot it carried. Hexxat will take her place
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Fuligin posted:hmm progress through the crypt has been stymied by a bug which causes the party to get stuck on one another in a kind of quantum superposition. Unfortunately this rare physical anomaly is stopping them from leaving the correct exit ive been having this happen on my run through. what i have been doing is having them form up away from the exit to seperate and then try again.
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