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ryde
Sep 9, 2011

God I love young girls

The Glumslinger posted:

Oh hey, he was finally smart enough to ask for dirt of Warren

That's actually pretty dumb, because with Biden he could at least point to the Burisma story and talk about corruption. Warren doesn't even have the plausible deniability.

snorch posted:

So is Congress gonna subpoena all of those super secret calls now or what?

I could have sworn that they were but can't find a reference to it.

ryde fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Oct 4, 2019

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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

For the new page with

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1179893082894024705

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

cr0y posted:

Here is the wohl press conference and it's just....amazing

https://youtu.be/mZo7xYspCBU

The escort is pretty cute. Wish I could hire him.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

This seems pretty dumb.

We are living in a malignant narcissist's manic episode in real time.

ryde
Sep 9, 2011

God I love young girls
Does the White House think they don't have the votes? Whats their play here?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

ryde posted:

Does the White House think they don't have the votes? Whats their play here?

Delay, misdirect, obscure

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Talking about Biden within China is an even bigger deal than Ukraine, loving hell he just casually puts that out there

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

ryde posted:

Does the White House think they don't have the votes? Whats their play here?

They're hoping they don't have the votes. It's actually pretty close, but I doubt anyone is going to back down with all the positive momentum they have if, somehow, Trump managed to tie them to having the vote.

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


Paradoxish posted:

No problem. If you're interested in this stuff, it might be worth looking up Boston's waterfront development as well. The situation isn't as dire or unsalvageable as Miami, but it's still bad enough that the cost of protecting the infrastructure there is likely to drastically exceed the value of the infrastructure that already exists and that's in development.

Miami is the canary in the coal mine, but it's not even close to being the only place that's in trouble in the US.

Absolutely, thank you! I need to start developing a more concrete idea of what America and American cities are already facing as a result of rising sea levels and climate change.

The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1179892738755645440
Oh, and trading political favors for not talking about the repression of Hong Kong

Hardly surprising, but still enormously disappointing.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

nachos posted:

Talking about Biden within China is an even bigger deal than Ukraine, loving hell he just casually puts that out there

and the Chinese officials going "are you loving serious", lol

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1179895737271881728
:laffo:

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
So at this point, deliberately making up the Warren poo poo (and everything else) to clearly intentionally run a smear campaign is illegal right?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

"we wouldn't employ you as a prostitute" has to be kinda depressing to hear, at least if you put enough work into your appearance as this guy demonstrably does

also "Cowboys4Angels" lol

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
lol loving hell this is just an absolute torrent of crimes and impeachable offenses

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1179896233176887297

Yiggy
Sep 12, 2004

"Imagination is not enough. You have to have knowledge too, and an experience of the oddity of life."

ryde posted:

Does the White House think they don't have the votes? Whats their play here?

My guess is they’re trying to force a vote which he knows the Dems will win that way Mitch can rush through a show trial, they can acquit Trump and move on to smear Dems all the way to 2020.

And if they don’t get a bite they’ll just continue to slow walk until a court forces their hand, which I doubt they’re anticipating happening.

Ither
Jan 30, 2010

Looking at other Wohl videos, they keep hiring the same "security guard". Wonder what's his story?

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

skylined! posted:

lol loving hell this is just an absolute torrent of crimes and impeachable offenses

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1179896233176887297

idk, sounds like hearsay if you ask me. Very hearsay

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Yiggy posted:

My guess is they’re trying to force a vote which he knows the Dems will win that way Mitch can rush through a show trial, they can acquit Trump and move on to smear Dems all the way to 2020.

And if they don’t get a bite they’ll just continue to slow walk until a court forces their hand, which I doubt they’re anticipating happening.

It's not this. They're claiming that a vote is required to open the inquiry, not trying to force a vote to impeach.

I don't see a universe where he doesn't get impeached eventually. He keeps crimin'

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Ither posted:

Looking at other Wohl videos, they keep hiring the same "security guard". Wonder what's his story?

ehh, it's a living

and a very low effort one

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Yiggy posted:

My guess is they’re trying to force a vote which he knows the Dems will win that way Mitch can rush through a show trial, they can acquit Trump and move on to smear Dems all the way to 2020.

They're not trying to force a vote on impeachment, just on the inquiry. There's actually no clear angle here unless Republicans believe that Pelosi doesn't have the votes.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


BonoMan posted:

So at this point, deliberately making up the Warren poo poo (and everything else) to clearly intentionally run a smear campaign is illegal right?

Probably but it's so ineffective and pathetic taking legal action would only give it undue legitimacy. It's like taking a kid to court for saying you smell.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Ither posted:

Looking at other Wohl videos, they keep hiring the same "security guard". Wonder what's his story?

He was assaulted by the whistleblower.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

theflyingorc posted:

idk, sounds like hearsay if you ask me. Very hearsay

Guessing you're joking, however:

quote:

The statement was drafted by Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, and Kurt D. Volker, then the State Department’s envoy to Ukraine, according to the three people who have been briefed on it.

Mr. Volker spent Thursday on Capitol Hill being questioned by House investigators as Democrats pursued their impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump’s actions. He disclosed a set of texts in September in which Bill Taylor, the top American diplomat in Ukraine, alluded to Mr. Trump’s decision earlier in the summer to freeze a military aid package to the country. He told Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker: “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
GOP going all in on horseshit...

https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1179883939286208512

Birudojin
Oct 7, 2010

WHIRR CLANK
https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/reps-lieu-and-rice-call-bribery-investigation-nra-chief-executive-wayne

quote:

Congressman Ted W. Lieu (D-Los Angeles County) and Congresswoman Kathleen Rice (D-NY) today sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray asking him to investigate whether the Chief Executive of the National Rifle Association, Wayne LaPierre, attempted to bribe President Trump after it was reported that he met with the President and offered him some form of support in exchange for a commitment to oppose new gun control measures.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

skylined! posted:

lol loving hell this is just an absolute torrent of crimes and impeachable offenses

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1179896233176887297

quote:

Mr. Volker spent Thursday on Capitol Hill being questioned by House investigators as Democrats pursued their impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump’s actions. He disclosed a set of texts in September in which the top American diplomat in Ukraine, alluding to Mr. Trump’s decision earlier in the summer to freeze a military aid package to the country, told Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker: “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”

:siren:After speaking with Mr. Trump, Mr. Sondland texted back that there was no quid pro quo, adding, “I suggest we stop the back and forth by text.”:siren:

It was not clear if the statement drafted in August by Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker came up in the closed-door session on Capitol Hill.

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Ither posted:

Looking at other Wohl videos, they keep hiring the same "security guard". Wonder what's his story?

Its his friend probably.

Luckyellow
Sep 25, 2007

Pillbug

BonoMan posted:

So at this point, deliberately making up the Warren poo poo (and everything else) to clearly intentionally run a smear campaign is illegal right?

You would think so but...

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1179897771878486016

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

That dude is probably wiped out.

Spun Dog
Sep 21, 2004


Smellrose

Ither posted:

Looking at other Wohl videos, they keep hiring the same "security guard". Wonder what's his story?

I think that's Deep Roy

Gilliam II
Apr 23, 2006
Argh! Stop using a child to protest!
Pillbug
My take on the White House trying to force a vote on impeachment is that they want to show that it's only democrats voting for it, and believe (probably correctly) that republicans won't, so Trump can keep arguing that it's a delusion of the Democratic party as is always his argument. The vote will pass, sure, but probably on a party line vote.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

quote:

The drafting of the statement, which came in the weeks after the July 25 phone call between Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky, was an effort to pacify Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani and normalize relations between the two countries as Ukraine faced continuing conflict with Russia. Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker believed that Mr. Giuliani was “poisoning” Mr. Trump’s mind about Ukraine and that eliciting a public commitment from Mr. Zelensky to pursue the investigations would induce Mr. Trump to more fully support the new Ukrainian government, according to the people familiar with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9FZWoD-oRE

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"


whoever asked why people pay attention to Wohl and his loving sub-Dick Dastardly-tier plots

here is your answer.

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003






Slippery Tilde
I’ve been watching Fox News today - they seem committed to the narrative that trump asking foreign countries to investigate Biden is a-ok because Trump’s job is to enforce the law and get other countries to help the US enforce the law (?). Also the real scandal is Biden’s corruption and Ukraine’s intervention in the 2016 election.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


ryde posted:

That's actually pretty dumb, because with Biden he could at least point to the Burisma story and talk about corruption. Warren doesn't even have the plausible deniability.

That's a really good point. Trump and Rudy have been leaning in on the bullshit Biden scandal and if this report is true it sweeps the legs out from under that lie.

Rip Testes
Jan 29, 2004

I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

So the trade war is not some principled stand against China but actually wrecking the US to get poo poo in Biden?

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Gilliam II posted:

My take on the White House trying to force a vote on impeachment is that they want to show that it's only democrats voting for it, and believe (probably correctly) that republicans won't, so Trump can keep arguing that it's a delusion of the Democratic party as is always his argument. The vote will pass, sure, but probably on a party line vote.

It's sovereign citizen tier bullshit. It literally makes no sense. They made it up.

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003
Trump Envoys Pushed Ukraine to Commit to Investigations.

quote:

WASHINGTON — Two of President Trump’s top envoys to Ukraine drafted a statement for the country’s new president in August that would have committed Ukraine to pursuing investigations sought by Mr. Trump into his political rivals, three people briefed on the effort said.

The drafting of the statement marks new evidence of how Mr. Trump’s fixation with Ukraine began driving senior diplomats to bend American foreign policy to the president’s political agenda in the weeks after the July 25 call between the two leaders.

The statement was drafted by Gordon D. Sondland, the United States ambassador to the European Union, and Kurt D. Volker, then the State Department’s envoy to Ukraine, according to the three people who have been briefed on it.

Mr. Volker spent Thursday on Capitol Hill being questioned by House investigators as Democrats pursued their impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump’s actions. He disclosed a set of texts in September in which Bill Taylor, the top American diplomat in Ukraine, alluded to Mr. Trump’s decision earlier in the summer to freeze a military aid package to the country. He told Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker: “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.”

After speaking with Mr. Trump, Mr. Sondland texted back that there was no quid pro quo, adding, “I suggest we stop the back and forth by text.”

It was not clear if the statement drafted in August by Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker came up in the closed-door session on Capitol Hill.

The statement was written with the awareness of a top aide to the Ukrainian president, as well as Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and the de facto leader of a shadow campaign to push the Ukrainians to press ahead with investigations that could be of political benefit to Mr. Trump, according to one of the people briefed on it.

The statement would have committed Ukraine to investigating the energy company Burisma, which had employed Hunter Biden, the younger son of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. And it would have called for the Ukrainian government to look into what Mr. Trump and his allies believe was interference by Ukrainians in the 2016 election in the United States to benefit Hillary Clinton.

The idea behind the statement was to break the Ukrainians of their habit of promising American diplomats and leaders behind closed doors that they would look into matters and never follow through.

It is unclear if the statement was delivered to Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, but no statement was released publicly under his name. Around that time, the Ukrainian officials indicated to the Americans that they wanted to avoid becoming more deeply enmeshed in American politics.

The drafting of the statement, which came in the weeks after the July 25 phone call between Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky, was an effort to pacify Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani and normalize relations between the two countries as Ukraine faced continuing conflict with Russia. Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker believed that Mr. Giuliani was “poisoning” Mr. Trump’s mind about Ukraine and that eliciting a public commitment from Mr. Zelensky to pursue the investigations would induce Mr. Trump to more fully support the new Ukrainian government, according to the people familiar with it.

Mr. Giuliani said he was aware of the statement but that it was not written at his behest. He said the statement would include a commitment to investigations of Burisma and the circumstances around the 2016 election.

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1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

GreyjoyBastard posted:

"we wouldn't employ you as a prostitute" has to be kinda depressing to hear, at least if you put enough work into your appearance as this guy demonstrably does

also "Cowboys4Angels" lol

"I've known whores. And you, sir, are no whore."

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