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Why is it so hard to get a beer in Melbourne that isn't a $15/pint xPA, Goze, or Carlton draught these days? I blame JBP for this gentrification.
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Don Dongington posted:Why is it so hard to get a beer in Melbourne that isn't a $15/pint xPA, Goze, or Carlton draught these days? it all turned to poo poo when the elms family hotel was sold to developers a few years ago
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Oct 4, 2019 05:18
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Graic Gabtar posted:it all turned to poo poo when the elms family hotel was sold to developers a few years ago Yes, this I liked that place 
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Oct 4, 2019 05:24
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No poo poo I went to 5 bars last night in both Collingwood and the CBD before and after dinner and it was pretty hard to find anything that wasn't sour or hoppy as hell overpriced boutique micro. It's not GREAT in WA either, but it seems to have tilted a lot harder in that direction over here. Not a lot of variety. I prefer wheat beers, brown ales or lager/less hoppy pales like fat yak for reference.
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Oct 4, 2019 05:34
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Recoome posted:i mean they say this now, but what they really mean is that they are sorry that people took notice How could they have predicted anyone in this state read their newsletter?
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Oct 4, 2019 05:39
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I feel really spoilt that Brisbane actually has some great cheap places to go, like the German Club
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Oct 4, 2019 05:42
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Don Dongington posted:No poo poo I went to 5 bars last night in both Collingwood and the CBD before and after dinner and it was pretty hard to find anything that wasn't sour or hoppy as hell overpriced boutique micro. In inner suburbs like Collingwood with shitloads of pubs there are still a fair few with normal beers at normal prices The Napier, the Union, Foresters, the Birmingham just in the Smith St area of Collingwood I don't really go to pubs in the cbd very much but there are still a few of the more old fashioned places that sell normal beers
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Oct 4, 2019 05:45
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https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/restaurant-empire-behind-chin-chin-underpaid-staff-leaked-audit-20190919-p52szg.html A detailed external audit shows that the high-end restaurant business that runs Chin Chin in Melbourne and Sydney underpaid staff by $340,000 in a single year, with one-fifth of the company’s workforce affected. The audit by accounting firm Stannards measured actual staff wages for the 2017-18 financial year against the award at The Lucas Group Services Pty Ltd- a company owned by prominent restaurant owner Chris Lucas. The audit showed that in one financial year alone, 134 staff - or about 20 per cent of the workforce - were paid less than the minimum rates of the award, the wages safety net. Through lawyers, Mr Lucas "vehemently" denied there were underpayments and said workers had been repaid in full - a claim disputed by a number of staff members interviewed by The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald. Mr Lucas refused to be interviewed on the record for this story, but in a separate interview with the Herald and The Age he called for an amnesty in investigations for underpayments to allow employers to make adjustments “without fear of being publicly attacked or fined". He complained about media reporting of underpayments in the restaurant industry, said the employment law was too “complex”, and it was "almost impossible for even the most professional organisation to be totally compliant”. He added that he was "concerned about the mental state of the people that have been publicly hung out to dry". The 15-page audit of The Lucas Group shows hundreds of thousands of dollars of underpayments occurred at all the company's restaurants including Chin Chin in Sydney and Melbourne, Kisume, Go Go Bar, Hawker Hall, Kong and Baby Pizza. It was most pronounced at Chin Chin Sydney which opened in October 2017. The audit compared actual pay rates for nearly 700 waiters, chefs and other staff against what they should have been paid, and shows significant discrepancies. Some staff had been paid $10,000 per year less than they should have received as compared to the minimum rates of the award. The Age and Herald are not suggesting that Mr Lucas consciously underpaid staff. Accounting firm Stannards did not respond to requests for comment. Law firm Holding Redlich, acting for the company, threatened legal action against the newspapers unless they destroyed their copy of the audit. They also demanded a list of all people we spoke to about the audit. The Age and the Herald have not complied with the request.
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Oct 4, 2019 05:46
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Don Dongington posted:Why is it so hard to get a beer in Melbourne that isn't a $15/pint xPA, Goze, or Carlton draught these days? What's this imaginary world where you could get something other than a CD lol (except the bad years when Tooheys bought pubs and enforced the service of New until they all closed down due to lack of interest) every trashy beer barn in town serves fat yak
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Oct 4, 2019 05:51
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Even bars that specialise in craft beer ought to have at least one lager and pale ale. Even if you like drinking IPAs and sours, having something milder is a nice palate cleanser.
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Oct 4, 2019 05:52
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I can't think of anywhere near me that doesn't have mid range pale ales or similar. Same for Collingwood and the CBD, but I don't really go to the northern suburbs except for the Great Northern and Rose.
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Oct 4, 2019 05:53
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Eh, the pubs that have been suggested so far (which are generally pretty fuckin good) are still running 6-10+ different taps, so it's pretty easy to find something entry level. It's the 'fancy' CBD bars/restaurants with less than 4 on draught that seem to have nothing that really pleases anyone. Comedy option: go to the MCG bar Other comedy option: the German beer barn in the middle of Chinatown Nanpa fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Oct 4, 2019 06:01
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Don Dongington posted:Why is it so hard to get a beer in Melbourne that isn't a $15/pint xPA, Goze, or Carlton draught these days? need the gose to replenish salt for their tears
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Oct 4, 2019 06:03
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Lid posted:https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/restaurant-empire-behind-chin-chin-underpaid-staff-leaked-audit-20190919-p52szg.html gently caress I'm glad the line for it was far too long last night and we ended up at Supernormal instead then.
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Oct 4, 2019 06:56
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Lid posted:https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/restaurant-empire-behind-chin-chin-underpaid-staff-leaked-audit-20190919-p52szg.html Lmao, great stuff.
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Oct 4, 2019 07:13
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I bring y'all a Halloween gift.
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Oct 4, 2019 07:45
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Don Dongington posted:No poo poo I went to 5 bars last night in both Collingwood and the CBD before and after dinner and it was pretty hard to find anything that wasn't sour or hoppy as hell overpriced boutique micro. What the actual gently caress is this nonsense?
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Oct 4, 2019 07:50
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Mad Katter posted:What the actual gently caress is this nonsense? Agreed, beer is gross, drink cider instead.
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Oct 4, 2019 08:13
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-04/the-bushfires-of-the-future-are-here-black-swan/11559930?WT.ac=localnews_coffscoast This year, the bushfire season began with the worst September in recorded history, with 55 homes destroyed. The Australian winter was only just in the rear-view mirror when 130 bushfires ripped through southern Queensland and northern NSW in one day. Australia's former chief scientist, Ian Chubb, said it was clear the climate was changing. "It's not just some passing phase that it didn't rain this decade," he said. "The implications of that for fire are pretty obvious." Former New South Wales fire and rescue commissioner and Climate Council member Greg Mullins said unprecedented conditions could give rise to so-called Black Swan fire events. "We're going to have fires that I can't comprehend, and I've been in the game for nearly half a century," he said. A Black Swan is something without precedent and thought to be impossible, until it happens. When it comes to bushfires, these Black Swans happen as our environment changes, creating conditions firefighters have never seen before. Emergency experts and senior scientists have told a joint ABC investigation that a comprehensive national plan is needed to tackle the fires of the future, and they are concerned about the lack of financial commitment from the Federal Government for resources and research. "This is a national issue that all people in Australia, regardless of whether they are left or right, have a right to expect that we will face up to challenges that are ahead," Professor Chubb said. 'Asleep at the wheel' Black Swans like the Sir Ivan firestorm are only going to become more frequent as our climate warms, according to Dr Karl Braganza, head of Climate Monitoring at the Bureau of Meteorology. "We're also seeing not just the change in the frequency of those events, we're seeing a change in the severity, so the worst fire danger days are getting worse," he said. An RFS spokesman confirmed firefighters started to see fire thunderstorms during the northern NSW fires in September. Even though the threat of more unprecedented fire events is bearing down on us, Australia is not sufficiently prepared to fight them, according to Professor David Bowman, who specialises in how fire interacts with the landscape. "A lot of firefighting has really got to be done five years before the firestorm," he said. "You've got to be doing the prep." So far, the National Aerial Firefighting Centre (NAFC) has managed competing needs, but general manager Richard Alder acknowledged overlapping seasons were a risk. Two years ago, the NAFC sent a proposal on behalf of all states and territories to Canberra for an annual increase of $11 million above its existing $15 million funding, which would contribute to contracting large water-bombing aircraft from countries such as the US. They still haven't received a decision from the Federal Government. Background Briefing has obtained documents that show the proportion of federal funding for NAFC has more than halved since 2003. Minister for Natural Disaster and Emergency Management David Littleproud said he would raise the business case at the next Ministerial Council meeting. "We haven't made a decision around the aerial assets," he told Background Briefing. "We'll continue to work with the states in a mature way." He said the Government was cognisant firefighting resources were going to be needed for longer periods in more jurisdictions than before and was committed to finding solutions. The cost of natural disasters is projected to reach an average of $39 billion by 2050. In Australia, states and territories are responsible for disaster management, but the Federal Government does play a role in coordinating resources. "The Federal Government is missing in action," said Mr Mullins. "What I've heard from a number of sectors is that this Government fundamentally doesn't believe in climate change, doesn't think that anything needs to be done." Mr Mullins is one of 23 emergency services experts from every state and territory who have written to the Government, asking for strategic national firefighting resources to cope with climate change. They have not received a response.
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Oct 4, 2019 08:13
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Whitlam posted:Agreed, beer is gross, drink cider instead. Cider is gross, drink beer instead or whatever the gently caress you want to drink I don't care
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Oct 4, 2019 08:14
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the tears of my haters
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Oct 4, 2019 08:17
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i can only have like 1 alchoholic drink a day because my liver is a weakling
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Oct 4, 2019 08:20
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Mad Katter posted:What the actual gently caress is this nonsense? A Mad Katter has appeared! He's super Beery.
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Oct 4, 2019 08:29
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bowmore posted:i can only have like 1 alchoholic drink a day because my liver is a weakling Keep practicing champ, I believe in you.
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Oct 4, 2019 08:30
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Measly Twerp posted:I bring y'all a Halloween gift. Don't do that. Don't have done that.
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Oct 4, 2019 08:35
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Mad Katter posted:What the actual gently caress is this nonsense? Some fancy prick who won't drink Northerns mate.
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Oct 4, 2019 08:38
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Albo's trying to do a Kevin https://twitter.com/JadeMacmillan1/status/1179920718680580096
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Oct 4, 2019 08:39
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hambeet posted:A Mad Katter has appeared! hi hambeet, how are you?
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Oct 4, 2019 08:54
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JBP posted:What's this imaginary world where you could get something other than a CD lol (except the bad years when Tooheys bought pubs and enforced the service of New until they all closed down due to lack of interest) those were dark days. tooheys red was worse - like shards of loving glass that stuff
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Oct 4, 2019 09:13
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/04/nsw-government-right-refuse-emailed-foi-requestsquote:The New South Wales government has made the “absurd” claim that it should not be forced to accept freedom of information requests electronically because “not all NSW government agencies have the ability to accept electronic applications”.
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Oct 4, 2019 09:45
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Zenithe posted:Here's the chaser: Don't forget in 2016 Immigration (before it became Department of Home Affairs) spent more on medals than the ADF. Also I'm glad I lost my wallet last night, because I would not have been so willing to spend anything over $10 in a pint anywhere you ended up Dongington. That's Boomer money.
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Oct 4, 2019 09:52
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I'm lucky. There's a gin distillery 2 blocks from my house. And it's amazingly good. Also there's a brewery run by this nice old one and his wife about an hour away. Haven't tried it yet but apperently it's pretty nice stuff.
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Oct 4, 2019 11:36
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Drinking is bad I'm making scented soaps and candles
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Oct 4, 2019 11:37
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try vaping
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Oct 4, 2019 11:39
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Graic Gabtar posted:those were dark days. tooheys red was worse - like shards of loving glass that stuff Is Tooheys red Tooheys old? Because that wasn't too bad last time I found it.
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Oct 4, 2019 12:06
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bandaid.friend posted:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/oct/04/nsw-government-right-refuse-emailed-foi-requests This actually sounds plausible to me.
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Oct 4, 2019 12:29
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Nanpa posted:Is Tooheys red Tooheys old? Because that wasn't too bad last time I found it. oh poo poo no, not that at all. foul chemical taste, couldn't pour a head even if you shot it out of a fire hose. best served in 30 can blocks for a boozy house share party.
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Oct 4, 2019 12:32
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Mad Katter posted:hi hambeet, how are you? i'm good katter, you? what's crackin?
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Oct 4, 2019 13:02
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JBP posted:Drinking is bad I'm making scented soaps and candles they don't taste as good
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hambeet posted:they don't taste as good They smell nice
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