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I don't get the hate for federations. You get a free endlessly reinforcing fleet that doesn't cost upkeep or fleet capacity. That seems pretty cool to me.
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And Tyler Too! posted:I don't get the hate for federations. You get a free endlessly reinforcing fleet that doesn't cost upkeep or fleet capacity. That seems pretty cool to me. Also kind of a crapshoot whether that fleet obeys your orders or not
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And Tyler Too! posted:I don't get the hate for federations. You get a free endlessly reinforcing fleet that doesn't cost upkeep or fleet capacity. That seems pretty cool to me. And incessant demands you get into wars the AI cannot win without you slitting your throat for them, that they keep repeating every year after you say no, and every time you say no everyone hates you more to the point where your diplomacy modifier gets into the negative hundreds because shut the gently caress up Space Parrots I'm not going to declare war on both my best trade partner and the military juggernaut directly next to me and none of the rest of you.
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Sep 30, 2019 22:43
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GunnerJ posted:Also kind of a crapshoot whether that fleet obeys your orders or not As long as you're the strongest empire in the Federation, you command the fleet. So it's not a crapshoot. Just pick your fellow Federation members carefully.
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Sep 30, 2019 22:55
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No I mean that when I'm technically supposed to be in charge of it, it sometimes just fucks off and does whatever it wants. (Is this a bug they fixed recently though?)
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Every time I'm in a federation my fleet list just gets flooded with dozens of single ship fleets that the AI endlessly rebuilds if I delete them. gently caress federations.
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Oct 1, 2019 07:17
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Epicurius posted:(The mod also has espionage systems for some of the empires, which pets you assassinate an enemy ruler, sabotage a ship Epicurius posted:or hurt relationships between two empires).
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So, what are the best quality of life mods out there? Tiny Outliner looked good but it doesn't sound like it has been updated recently.
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Gort posted:So, what are the best quality of life mods out there? Automatic Pop Migration: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1617534169 Back to the Drawing Board: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1609723873 Better Faction Info: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1320900875 Habitats & Megastructure QoL: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1811403399 Improved Planet/Sector Automation: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1764704051 Less Demotion Time: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1584571997 I'm sure there are others, these have been great though.
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Daeren posted:And incessant demands you get into wars the AI cannot win without you slitting your throat for them, that they keep repeating every year after you say no, and every time you say no everyone hates you more to the point where your diplomacy modifier gets into the negative hundreds because shut the gently caress up Space Parrots I'm not going to declare war on both my best trade partner and the military juggernaut directly next to me and none of the rest of you. Nice to see you here, Finland.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Better Faction Info: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1320900875
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Gort posted:So, what are the best quality of life mods out there? Yeah the original person that made it stopped updating, so it got picked up by others. You want Tiny Outliner v2.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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What UI mod are you using? It's so clean. Also I'm pretty sure that many people can't physically fit in your habitat
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Splicer posted:What UI mod are you using? It's so clean. Also I'm pretty sure that many people can't physically fit in your habitat Depending on the number of fridges and sawblades employed, it may work out. And looking at that food production, that's a lot of fridges and sawblades
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Libluini posted:Depending on the number of fridges and sawblades employed, it may work out.
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Splicer posted:What UI mod are you using? It's so clean. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1623423360 Splicer posted:Also I'm pretty sure that many people can't physically fit in your habitat Who said anything about keeping them inside. There's plenty of room outside too. I don't think my drones will mind if their food will come to them pre-frozen.
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Jack Trades posted:Who said anything about keeping them inside. There's plenty of room outside too. I don't think my drones will mind if their food will come to them pre-frozen. I scream. You scream. We all scream for ice cream. But in space, no one can hear ice cream.
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Cynic Jester posted:I scream. You scream. We all scream for ice cream. But in space, no one can hear ice cream.
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Great Beer posted:Every time I'm in a federation my fleet list just gets flooded with dozens of single ship fleets that the AI endlessly rebuilds if I delete them. gently caress federations. Yeah this is really annoying. It would be nice if you could just use the fleet designer to design a federation fleet (which you can already do), and then the AI will only build ships to fill that fleet up to the quota, rather than building more corvettes you won't use, forever.
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Oct 2, 2019 00:22
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Just use them as ablative armour so your actual fleet doesn't take damage.
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I don't like the federation fleet, but I do like the federation fleet designer. I think there's value in that, in being able to build ships using the best of all federation members' tech so long as you're in the federation. But maybe they could just be part of your fleet. (In this case, if you leave, you can't build more of them but they stick around.)
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GunnerJ posted:I don't like the federation fleet, but I do like the federation fleet designer. I think there's value in that, in being able to build ships using the best of all federation members' tech so long as you're in the federation. But maybe they could just be part of your fleet. (In this case, if you leave, you can't build more of them but they stick around.)
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dogstile posted:Just use them as ablative armour so your actual fleet doesn't take damage. Yeah, this. If an enemy perdition beam gets fired at a corvette, it's a huge win for you.
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Yeah that would be great if it didn't take like 4 years for them to actually make their way over to my territory to form up with the rest of my fleet.
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After having not touched Stellaris in years I decided to try out the Star Trek TC at the recommendation of the OP and...how is this free? This is possibly the best trek game I've ever played. It's a bit wonky of course but somehow less wonky than most vanilla Paradox runs I've had. The only real annoyance is the AI was so expansion happy the whole alpha/beta quadrant is explored 20 years in.
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Breakfast All Day posted:After having not touched Stellaris in years I decided to try out the Star Trek TC at the recommendation of the OP and...how is this free? This is possibly the best trek game I've ever played. It's a bit wonky of course but somehow less wonky than most vanilla Paradox runs I've had. The only real annoyance is the AI was so expansion happy the whole alpha/beta quadrant is explored 20 years in. That's awesome. I've recently come back as well, I tried the Trek mod a couple of years back, does it work well with the updated Stellaris? Does anyone know of a good AI mod ?
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GunnerJ posted:I don't like the federation fleet, but I do like the federation fleet designer. I think there's value in that, in being able to build ships using the best of all federation members' tech so long as you're in the federation. But maybe they could just be part of your fleet. (In this case, if you leave, you can't build more of them but they stick around.) Right now the biggest problem with Federations is that they're not optimised around the new UI elements. The ship designer is hard to access for example and doesn't always work. The game should hand more power to human Federation players and let you design the ships first before the AI starts spamming billions out and it should also have a proper limit on the fed fleet that it sticks to instead of it having 500 corvettes in it and a 200k strength when everyone else is on 60k.
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Honestly I know federations have already had some work done on them but it just seems like the sort of thing where they should really go back to the drawing board on them entirely. There's a lot of interesting stuff that could be there but it would require a more detailed diplomatic game to get any use out of it. The way federations work right now are really dull, basically just fancy military alliances, but that's kind of the only meaningful diplomatic relationship that exists in the game so what else could they be?
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Is there a good tutorial or guide on how to build fleets, especially in the endgame? I've got apparently everything researched (my research options are just thing++ now) but my fleets that are Titans, Battleships, and Cruisers are capping out at like 85k power when I'm up against like 200k fleets. So I'm running multiple fleets together but that doesn't seem effective.
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Late game like that I would do just Titan + BS fleets. I do 3x kinetic artillery, and 3x neutron launchers. 50/50 shields/armor, line computers, and usually double afterburners so they aren't quite so slow. The titans are a mix of +tracking, +repair, and -shields for the auras. I do 4x kinetic artillery and 2x neutron launchers on them, since the titan beam is mostly armor/hull damage. Having decent admirals helps too, I usually roll with aggressive ones, and they usually pick up scout at some point from jumping around so much.
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I roll 40 corvettes with whatever, (theyre just cannon fodder) 10 destroyers with kinetic artillery and flak, and the rest battleships with whatever big gun. Sometimes I'll keep a fleet of 10 cruisers with torpedoes and use them to clear stations while my death stack holds a choke point.
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Fhqwhgads posted:Is there a good tutorial or guide on how to build fleets, especially in the endgame? I've got apparently everything researched (my research options are just thing++ now) but my fleets that are Titans, Battleships, and Cruisers are capping out at like 85k power when I'm up against like 200k fleets. So I'm running multiple fleets together but that doesn't seem effective.
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I haven't played in a few updates, but I liked to use a huge swarm of torpedo corvettes in a separate fleet from a larger, mixed fleet mostly composed of BS. The corvette fleet I'd order in first to soak up a bunch of the damage, then send in the mixed fleet immediately after. Seemed effective against most enemy empire targets, though was obviously not useful against some of the crisis fleets. Might have changed since then.
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I just built 1/2/4/8 ratio fleets of whatever the Auto-Designer gives and it seemed to work fine.
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binge crotching posted:Late game like that I would do just Titan + BS fleets. I do 3x kinetic artillery, and 3x neutron launchers. 50/50 shields/armor, line computers, and usually double afterburners so they aren't quite so slow. The titans are a mix of +tracking, +repair, and -shields for the auras. I do 4x kinetic artillery and 2x neutron launchers on them, since the titan beam is mostly armor/hull damage. I basically just copied this and have been rolling crisis fleets without taking damage but there's just. So. Many. Of them. Splicer posted:Build habitats full of fortresses. Need to try this, too.
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Echoing all the other Battleship advice but I also want to throw in my "not a void cloud" gimmick ship which is all Cloud Lightning + Arc Emitter, it goes straight for hull damage.
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And Tyler Too! posted:Echoing all the other Battleship advice but I also want to throw in my "not a void cloud" gimmick ship which is all Cloud Lightning + Arc Emitter, it goes straight for hull damage.
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