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thotsky posted:It's not just a way to subsidize millionaires. It does cut public spending, at least in the short term, because running it like a business (and maximizing profit) means a priority is to keep costs low. Sure, this will affect the quality of the service, but yeah exactly it's genuinely a good point, and the fukken conservatives have somehow managed to wrest the technocratic image from AP despite solving every problem by throwing money at it while somehow also defunding vitally important state services
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thotsky posted:It's not just a way to subsidize millionaires. At this point it literally is: https://www.aftenposten.no/okonomi/i/awJBj4/Ny-rapport-Private-barnehager-fikk-over-1-mrd-for-mye-til-pensjoner https://e24.no/naeringsliv/i/wP9AWG/barnehager-tre-ganger-saa-loennsomt-som-boersen
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Jeg tror nok i at i et lite lenger perspektiv så vil ikke argumentet om at privat drift og konkurranseutsettelse, om det blir riktig ord, fungere særlig godt. Når utgiftene først er skvisa så må prisen opp for å fortsette å øke lønnsomheten; og kapitalismen har vist seg svært dårlige på å selvregulere, uansett hvor fritt markedet skal være. For det første er det lett å kreve høyere og høyere summer for vital infrastruktur eller tjenester, for det andre vil det sikkert forme seg monopoler/industrigiganter om det ikke har gjort det allerede.
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the thing is, kindergartens are a regulated market where you cannot really go bust. the threat of bankruptcy is the whole point of capitalist competition, and it's pretty much absent when it comes to vital public services (cf: luftambulansen, jesus loving wept what a fiasco) however, the argument of reduced costs is still not wrong, at least not in the short term. it's actually demonstrably true! if it weren't true, public companies would win the contracts. don't look at the weird service purchase structures or the union busting
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So what's up with Amineh Kakabaveh getting kicked out of V? E: Reading DN it sounds like she is not good but in fact bad. This is not the picture I had of her. Is it just the convenient cover story? Potrzebie fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Aug 28, 2019 |
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"Enligt Etzler har Amineh bland annat ”spridit falska nyheter” och hon har avstått från att betala Vänsterpartiets särskilda partiskatt. "
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She brings up important issues that otherwise are a bit of a blindspot for V. But she also seems kind of erratic and unreliable. I'm not against politicians having a voice of their own and not blindly following party lines and last election I made the call that she does more good than harm and I put my x for her. The fact that she doesn't pay partiskatt is a bit of a disappointment though because I am a fan of the concept overall. Regardless this seems badly handled by V.
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Amineh owns and is the definition of a problematic fave Aron Etzler can eat my rear end tho
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Cakebaker posted:She brings up important issues that otherwise are a bit of a blindspot for V. But she also seems kind of erratic and unreliable. I'm not against politicians having a voice of their own and not blindly following party lines and last election I made the call that she does more good than harm and I put my x for her. The fact that she doesn't pay partiskatt is a bit of a disappointment though because I am a fan of the concept overall. This is similar to my take. She has a massive distrust of religion of all kinds because she's seen first hand the problems it's caused in the immigration community, primarily towards women and queer folk. V in general hate talking about that because it feeds into the problematic narrative that SD is peddling, but at the same time women and queers reported feeling more unsafe and less in control of their sexlives and choice of partner, and women in particular facing pressure to conform in regards to clothing and inappropriate behaviour, and Amineh has been very vocal about these issues, honor culture and religions role in it. Unfortunately her own bias against religion has made her jump the gun a few times, but I rather prefer having vocal critics of religion than the opposite, and with her background it's easier to assume it comes from a place of genuine concern instead of xenophobia
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Cynic Jester posted:"Enligt Etzler har Amineh bland annat ”spridit falska nyheter” och hon har avstått från att betala Vänsterpartiets särskilda partiskatt. " She also haven't shown up to her partys parlimentary group's meetings, since she says she cant handle several of her colleagues call her racist and/or islamophobe. Which is a more reasonable reason for kicking her out because she doesn't coordinate with her affiliated party.
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Amineh Kakabaveh posted:Ytterligare kommentar ang partisekreterarens anklagelse om partiskatt: That sheds some light on that.
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McCloud posted:Unfortunately her own bias against religion has made her jump the gun a few times, but I rather prefer having vocal critics of religion than the opposite, and with her background it's easier to assume it comes from a place of genuine concern instead of xenophobia The problem is that the outcome is still the same. I'm sure Hanif Bali expresses his highly xenophobic views about religious expression out of a genuine concern formed from his background too. But while that explains it, that doesn't make it even remotely ok.
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This poo poo is not remotely ok regardless of a persons background or intent: https://expo.se/2016/12/dags-att-ber%C3%A4tta-hela-historien-om-kakabavehs-delning-av-rasistpropaganda
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MiddleOne posted:This poo poo is not remotely ok regardless of a persons background or intent: quote:I sitt Facebookinlägg skriver Kakabaveh: quote:När Kakabaveh blev uppmärksammad på att det i själva verket var en högerextrem grupp som låg bakom videon så tog hon bort sitt inlägg. I get the impression that this wasn't just an innocent slip of the finger type like.
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https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/rAbqkw/forslaget-at-manniskokott-for-klimatets-skull So eat the rich?
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Let's start by just eating Handels and then take it from there.
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wonder if these fucks saying we should eat insects are gonna do it themselves, or if its just for people that get their groceries from lidl
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If you've had yogurt without artificial coloring then you're already living on the insect diet. There's also rat-poop in literally all your food.
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MiddleOne posted:If you've had yogurt without artificial coloring then you're already living on the insect diet. 
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https://twitter.com/viktorbk/status/1179083758189912064?s=21 Privativisera döden för att effektivisera kronans värde. https://twitter.com/viktorbk/status/1179411063575629824?s=21
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Cardiac posted:https://twitter.com/viktorbk/status/1179083758189912064?s=21 Avreglera Riksantikvariatämbetet för att få fart på kronans värde! Låter rimligt!
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V. Illych L. posted:the thing is, kindergartens are a regulated market where you cannot really go bust. the threat of bankruptcy is the whole point of capitalist competition, and it's pretty much absent when it comes to vital public services (cf: luftambulansen, jesus loving wept what a fiasco) It is in fact often not demonstrably true. At least it wasn't in the UK where they had to massively massage the numbers to make PFI contracts seem to be cheaper over the lifetime of the contract compared to public provisioning. What is does do is shift government debt off the books (goosing things like the debt to GDP ratio which is sacrosanct to centrists) and replaces low government debt payments with high fees to private providers. Sometimes the high fees are obscured by having low fees in the initial lowest bidder contract but then huge costs are incurred when they inevitably need to be expensively bailed out or the project quietly postponed or binned when it turns out the private sector can't deliver.
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A public school can be inefficient but a private one can be inefficient with malicious profit incentive on top to make it even worse.
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https://twitter.com/CBrask/status/1179820402937417728 Making the national political debate revolve entirely around being tough on crime/immigrants is having the most unfathomable of results.
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MiddleOne posted:https://twitter.com/CBrask/status/1179820402937417728 Well, except for the fact that SD are making inroads in a whole lot of other political areas, as seen in recent polls. Also, the election result from last years election showed that SD have a more diverse recruiting base across income levels than S&M.
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Turns out that when journalists and mainsteam media legitimize outrageous and ridiculous claims about immigrants, by taking them seriously instead of laughing them out of the room, and playing a long with the irrational fears of the voting public to get more clicks and sell more 'news', people will start to think the imaginary crises and problems are actually real and vote in that direction - especially if it supports their unconscious (and conscious) biases and bigotry. Who would have thunk?
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Turns out that when journalists and mainsteam media legitimize outrageous and ridiculous claims about immigrants, by taking them seriously instead of laughing them out of the room, and playing a long with the irrational fears of the voting public to get more clicks and sell more 'news', people will start to think the imaginary crises and problems are actually real and vote in that direction - especially if it supports their unconscious (and conscious) biases and bigotry. Who would have thunk? Well, now you are making the same assumption that SD supporters used to do and overvalue the effect of mainstream media, which btw is rather more pro-immigration than people in general. People in general don't care so much about media compared to what happens in their everyday life.
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Cardiac posted:Well, now you are making the same assumption that SD supporters used to do and overvalue the effect of mainstream media, which btw is rather more pro-immigration than people in general. Well, the hyperbole around immigration and bigoted reporting is even worse in non-mainstream media, but that's where the already super racist and radicalized SD voters get their news, so that obviously has a limited impact. My point was that the more journalists/media take idiotic, outright false, and moronic claims as legitimate, discuss it seriously, and thereby allow it to dominate politics, the more people will believe it's real. Like for example, the time when the most serious news/political programme in denmark let Pia say that the UN had become a muslim conspiracy to overtake the west, without immediately laughing at her stupidity and telling her to go gently caress herself, thereby legitimizing it. There are literally thousands and thousands of examples of this. No, no, let's wait for the idiots at 'detector' to get to the bottom of this. Next up, is the UN really a muslim conspiracy? Find out the surprising truth! Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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teen witch posted:loving hell that chasm for France. The American one is worse tbh.
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teen witch posted:loving hell that chasm for France. My guess that's driven by people who assume all people of colour in France are North African and Muslim.
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Otoh according to wiki 19,1 % of swedes was born in another country, I think its rather that information that makes People uneasy, not IF immigrants are muslim or not. And ofc The Police describing segregated areas as no go zones etc. But lol at France.
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Munin posted:My guess that's driven by people who assume all people of colour in France are North African and Muslim. When I took French in high school the textbook told me that France's Muslims made up 20% of the total population of the country. Zombiepop posted:Otoh according to wiki 19,1 % of swedes was born in another country, I think its rather that information that makes People uneasy, not IF immigrants are muslim or not. And ofc The Police describing segregated areas as no go zones etc. The majority of those foreign-born are going to be EU (or EEA) citizens, and a good chunk of those are going to be from Norway, Finland and Denmark. But you have idiots look at that statistics and then furiously posting about Sharia law in Malmö. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Randarkman posted:The American one is worse tbh. Munin posted:My guess that's driven by people who assume all people of colour in France are North African and Muslim. Media aside, majority populations probably also just overestimate minority numbers in their daily life, filtering out the assorted other majority people as background features while taking note of "the other". IIRC, someone did a study in the US where white people thought 10% racial minorities in an area was nicely balanced, while 30% was oppressively diverse - and I doubt we in Europe, despite a different racial history, are better on that front.
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The people most concerned about immigrants generally live where there are fewest of them around, but I'm sure the media has no effect there.
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I'm sure that multiple of my small-town and rural elderly relatives are asking me how I keep safe from the roaming inner-city gangs due to their own lived experiences, and not at all because of any sort of media narrative.
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I'm at a funeral right now and people ask me how I can live in Uppsala when the almost Warzone Gottsunda is destroying the city. That is when my brother love to drop in and tell them how much he enjoy his neighborhood in Gottsunda.
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stort lol på att mitt jobb upphandlat mat där prislappen stigit till ca 500 kr för två paket Löfbergs lila någon borde hamna i gulag för detta
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