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Groovelord Neato posted:a guy who can't crack double digits outraising the frontrunner is hilarious. It's an investment in someone they expect to be back.
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Shbobdb posted:$48.33 per donor, which is more important. Looks like Sanders didn't release a donor count, just a donation count (bullshit metric). So unfortunately, can't compare this.
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Wow Anand is really upset he was in that video and on an extended Twitter rant. To be fair he shouldn't be in that video, he talks about much the same things as Bernie and in that interview clip was actually defending him, but he's super mad about it
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Wow Anand is really upset he was in that video and on an extended Twitter rant. To be fair he shouldn't be in that video, he talks about much the same things as Bernie and in that interview clip was actually defending him, but he's super mad about it i did think it was odd he was in there. Oh Snapple! posted:It's an investment in someone they expect to be back. pete is 5'8". he will never be president.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Looks like Sanders didn't release a donor count, just a donation count (bullshit metric). So unfortunately, can't compare this. Bernie is backed by Soros and other ultra-wealthy globalists. Sure, he averages $27/donation but it's just a small circle jerk of the party's leftmost rump and a few wealthy backers. Buttman probably has more individual donors. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oh Snapple! posted:It's an investment in someone they expect to be back. Even if he eats poo poo, we're talking what? A percentage of a percent of your income to back someone who, though unlikely, will return that investment a thousandfold at least. It's not a bad place to put your money if you're rich.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhkKATtqtU Just set up a recurring monthly donation to Bernie.
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KingNastidon posted:third place in likely voters for democratic primary behind two candidates ppl consider irredeemable centrist ghouls doesn't seem to be building a popular movement Psssst - that's not what a "movement candidate" means. 
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Gripweed posted:He did it, the absolute madman
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cargo cult posted:why would they give this to virgin and not literally anyone else? Because Virgil is the best non-Amber Chapo, duh.
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cargo cult posted:why would they give this to virgin and not literally anyone else? he's the one who owns a blazer
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Berke Negri posted:that bernie can elicit such devoted support is definitely a strong political point of his that most outlets don't give enough credit to (instead framing it as a downside)
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will's the best interviewer but they've had virgil do several (or maybe all?) of the candidate interviews.
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Looks like Sanders didn't release a donor count, just a donation count (bullshit metric). So unfortunately, can't compare this. Right. Bernie SuperPacs actually pay individuals to donate repeatedly in small amounts, to artificially drive down the average donation
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Oct 4, 2019 18:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:will's the best interviewer but they've had virgil do several (or maybe all?) of the candidate interviews. virgil has a case of wonk-brain. if they're interviewing anyone from the commentarysphere will's the better choice, but the second you take politics past new yorkers gossiping about each other's takes, treats, and opinions on how swiftly the palestinians should be expunged from the surface from the earth he gets out of his depth.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:We’ll stuff you full of sawdust and shove a hand up your rear end like a muppet, too. We need all the posts we can get. someone get me the latin for Through Posting, Victory and I'm Not Mad, You're Mad, we got a coat of arms brewing here
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:someone get me the latin for Through Posting, Victory and I'm Not Mad, You're Mad, we got a coat of arms brewing here Closest I could get thinking "spirit" not "literal" translations: sī sint molliculī ac parum pudīcī et quod prūriat incitāre possunt nōn dīcō puerīs, sed hīs pilōsīs and (et, for you latin scholars) Pēdīcābō ego vōs et irrumābō
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cargo cult posted:why would they give this to virgin and not literally anyone else?
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:virgil has a case of wonk-brain. if they're interviewing anyone from the commentarysphere will's the better choice, but the second you take politics past new yorkers gossiping about each other's takes, treats, and opinions on how swiftly the palestinians should be expunged from the surface from the earth he gets out of his depth. Plus Virgil got Tulsi to admit that she's not anti-imperialism at all, so, ya know. Give the dude some credit.
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Ranter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhkKATtqtU He’ll really enjoy having a third house!!!
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KingNastidon posted:third place in likely voters for democratic primary behind two candidates ppl consider irredeemable centrist ghouls doesn't seem to be building a popular movement Popular movements do not require (and pretty much never involve) an actual majority of the population. Simply having millions of people actively working for a cause is sufficient to be a large popular movement capable of causing change. You could use your same logic to argue that pretty much every historical movement was not actually a "popular movement." You come off as deeply ignorant here. It is very obvious that you're trying to reverse engineer some sort of logic against people you disagree with for reasons that are fundamentally illogical.
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Ytlaya posted:Popular movements do not require (and pretty much never involve) an actual majority of the population. Simply having millions of people actively working for a cause is sufficient to be a large popular movement capable of causing change. You could use your same logic to argue that pretty much every historical movement was not actually a "popular movement." to multiply bastardize upton sinclair, you can get a lot of people on board with less human thumbs in hamburger, but the mortician working next-door to the slaughterhouse is always going to be a tough sell.
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Barry Foster posted:Brexit pretty infamously had nothing to do with parliament, it was a referendum The parliamentary system has absolutely failed the Brexit process. Why would anyone think it is something we should be shooting for? Craptacular! posted:Yes? Big shifts are great, but incremental change is not the enemy. Incrementalism does not work and gay rights weren't a product of it. They were a product of activists accepting nothing less. ACA was and is a boondoggle, even if your personal medical care was improved by it. It doesn't work. Supporting incrementalists is a bit like supporting the person in your work group who does the least work. Judakel fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Just as a reminder of how different the donor environment is for the front runners from 2016 https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1180182822377676800
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Some good news for Harris! https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1179862272774201346 ...maybe hiring Clinton's team of fuckups was a bad idea in retrospect.
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Kamala Harris has negative charisma, even worse than Hillary. I don't like any of the non-Bernie candidates but most of them (including Trump) have some ability to engage a crowd.
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Mind_Taker posted:Kamala Harris has negative charisma, even worse than Hillary. I don't like any of the non-Bernie candidates but most of them (including Trump) have some ability to engage a crowd. My dog won't stop barking and I don't know why.
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KingNastidon posted:Not the question I asked and intentional misrepresentation of 85%/15% likelihood of winning EV total vs. absolute percentage error in national/state popular vote relative to polling.
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Shbobdb posted:My dog won't stop barking and I don't know why. seriously, kamala got so much applause and cheers when she laughed about imprisoning mothers of truant children
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The fundraising numbers and MSM imply to me: - Biden go home - Everyone below Booker go home - Yang go home too because even if you raise $100M in Q4 we won't acknowledge you Consensus?
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Yang adds something different to the conversation. It's weird and wrong but weird and wrong in a distinct way that creates interesting possibilities. Contrast that with the legion of nearly identical centrist clones lining up to replace Biden when he falls. The candidates are: Bernie, Warren, Williamson, <indistinguishable centrist mass>, Yang, , <indistinguishable billionaire vanity runs>. Editing to more accurately represent the spectrum. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Ranter posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZhkKATtqtU Didn't take long for someone in the media to take offense to the video. https://twitter.com/AnandWrites/status/1180138673142190080?s=20
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Luckyellow posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/yashar/status/1180135696658550787 Biden is not going to make it.
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Shbobdb posted:Yang adds something different to the conversation. It's weird and wrong but weird and wrong in a distinct way that creates interesting possibilities. I think Yang is a message candidate. He's running less to win than to try to draw attention to UBI.
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Mind_Taker posted:Kamala Harris has negative charisma, even worse than Hillary. I don't like any of the non-Bernie candidates but most of them (including Trump) have some ability to engage a crowd. I'd disagree, Kamala is actually a pretty good public speaker. Her problem is that she desperately tried to find a middle ground between being a centrist and a progressive candidate and ended up appealing to neither faction. She would say too many progressive things that centrists didn't like, then she would immediately walk them all back and pissed off progressives. It left her with no substance that could sell and no one in the democratic primary is getting super excited about her history as a tough on crime prosecutor that is now all about criminal reform without any significant legislation as a Senator to back that up. But she is eloquent as she says nothing
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The Glumslinger posted:I'd disagree, Kamala is actually a pretty good public speaker. Her problem is that she desperately tried to find a middle ground between being a centrist and a progressive candidate and ended up appealing to neither faction. She would say too many progressive things that centrists didn't like, then she would immediately walk them all back and pissed off progressives. It left her with no substance that could sell and no one in the democratic primary is getting super excited about her history as a tough on crime prosecutor that is now all about criminal reform without any significant legislation as a Senator to back that up. this isn't called finding a middle ground. it's called flip-flopping
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The Glumslinger posted:I'd disagree, Kamala is actually a pretty good public speaker. Her problem is that she desperately tried to find a middle ground between being a centrist and a progressive candidate and ended up appealing to neither faction. She would say too many progressive things that centrists didn't like, then she would immediately walk them all back and pissed off progressives. It left her with no substance that could sell and no one in the democratic primary is getting super excited about her history as a tough on crime prosecutor that is now all about criminal reform without any significant legislation as a Senator to back that up. She can be eloquent and wooden in her delivery at the same time - and usually is.
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