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dwarf74 posted:....so when is this happening today? e: Beaten harder than a drum-kit owned by Chuck Biscuits on his prime.
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TheHan posted:I'm shocked that they're willing to risk it all on this awful case instead of settling and grifting their base some more. Vic's gotta be the one who won't take no for an answer right? Ty's folded in front of the judge every time but Vic's been so totally removed from the process that he probably only knows as much as his lawyers tell him. Ty probably doesn't know how bad things are here, and so is likely not giving an accurate view of reality to Vic. Also, realistically, the defendants don't have a lot to gain from negotiations at this point, except in the case that one or more points move forward, in which case the battle over discovery is going to be fierce and awful for everyone involved except Vic.
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SoftNum posted:Ty probably doesn't know how bad things are here, and so is likely not giving an accurate view of reality to Vic. Also, realistically, the defendants don't have a lot to gain from negotiations at this point, except in the case that one or more points move forward, in which case the battle over discovery is going to be fierce and awful for everyone involved except Vic.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:it can't be that bad, ty doesn't know anything about discovery if the case so far is anything to go by He brought it up during the hearing actually. My assumption, based on the couple of things Ty said, was that they wanted to get a discovery order so they can, for instance, troll through discord logs to find people saying "I want to cut off Vic's balls" or w/e. Because this is all about silencing victims and dissent.
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SoftNum posted:He brought it up during the hearing actually. My assumption, based on the couple of things Ty said, was that they wanted to get a discovery order so they can, for instance, troll through discord logs to find people saying "I want to cut off Vic's balls" or w/e. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AgqWEL1Pl-HXgBk9GZ2kHf8VVVRTUTx8/view quote:pg 104-106 Wiggly Wayne DDS fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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Nick (aka Screech and Blackface lawyer) has gotten himself suspended by twitter given his 'go off the deep end ranting at everyone and throwing all the typical alt-right slurs around' yesterday. The immediate assumption on lawtwitter following the case is that he 'acted up' yesterday so he's suspended when the ruling comes in and everything is denied. I think it was just him doing a temper tantrum because he knows vic's lost and he'd told all his followers/con victims that it was a slam dunk case for them to give him money. The vicstans at the farms etc have already done their rationalisation, which is that the judge is incompetent and already knows he screwed up so is going to deliberately have everything sent to appeal, so it can be overturned and sent back to him to have another go. That or he'll reverse himself the moment Beard says 'pretty please'. They're, uhh, not smart. PST fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Oct 4, 2019 15:10
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Hell yeah! Throwin' another tire in that dumpster fire!
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PST posted:Nick (aka Screech and Blackface lawyer) has gotten himself suspended by twitter given his 'go off the deep end ranting at everyone and throwing all the typical alt-right slurs around' yesterday. The immediate assumption on lawtwitter following the case is that he 'acted up' yesterday so he's suspended when the ruling comes in and everything is denied.
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dwarf74 posted:I can actually buy this. I'm not sure he's smart enough for that, but it sounds reasonable; it adds several days to when people find out what happens. Greg Doucette says that the judgement will be filed today, but that there will be a delay until people outside the case can access it; this means that any news coming out today is due to people within the case (Ty) leaking it.
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Oct 4, 2019 15:34
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dwarf74 posted:I can actually buy this. It's the first play in the book: when things go south, get yourself moderated so you can blame everything on Twitter denying your freedom of speech. "We totally would've won that case if only Twitter hadn't banned me, something something something conspiracy!"
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Oct 4, 2019 15:34
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People on law twitter saying all charges were dismissed. Also desperate for any sort of win, Beard and Nick's alt are trying to pretend Greg fleeced people's money in getting the transcript for the hearing. Except, you know, Greg is smart and has provided a bunch of documentation in the past. Oops. https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1180159845699244033?s=19 https://twitter.com/fsckemall/status/1172649444317093889?s=19
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"WE'RE TOTALLY GOING TO WIN THE APPEALS THO! NEED MORE MONEY TO WIN!"
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And now come the appeals, which means we won't be rid of these "weeb wars" for another few years. ...Oh who am I kidding, this poo poo was gonna continue no matter what the outcome was.
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yeah here's the reporter who was following along confirming it: https://twitter.com/SharonFGrigsby/status/1180165206560985090 just need to wait for the ruling to get put online or a lawyer involved to throw their version online. there isn't anything blocking rulings being publicised right?
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Oct 4, 2019 18:07
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Gotchu covered. 
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order: https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1180169735159209984
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So, what kind of bill are these clowns now staring down? Just how vicious is the judge going to get with them?
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Are there any estimates out for what the defense's legal fees are looking like? Wouldn't be surprised if that alone wiped out the GFM...
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AnoHito posted:Are there any estimates out for what the defense's legal fees are looking like? Wouldn't be surprised if that alone wiped out the GFM... e: wrong figures, here's the generous breakdown: https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1170171409592717313 Wiggly Wayne DDS fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Oct 4, 2019 18:27
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I’d be very surprised if the gfm even has funds remaining
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AnoHito posted:Are there any estimates out for what the defense's legal fees are looking like? Wouldn't be surprised if that alone wiped out the GFM... The article linked earlier said they could be over half a million dollars plus sanctions, the GFM raised about half of that, and has probably been mostly spent on Ty Beard's law firm already.
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Oct 4, 2019 18:35
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The Judge’s order gives the defendants 30 days to submit their legal costs and requests for sanctions. I wonder if they might have that prepared already, since the majority of the dismissals happened weeks ago and they had to suspect today’s result as well.
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Fray posted:The Judge’s order gives the defendants 30 days to submit their legal costs and requests for sanctions. I wonder if they might have that prepared already, since the majority of the dismissals happened weeks ago and they had to suspect today’s result as well. They’ll should have most of it ready, but will probably take a week or two to coordinate. Also calculating the total fee award is billable and will be included.
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Oct 4, 2019 18:47
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The vic guys were so confident they were going to win despite every legitimate lawyer on the planet saying the case was unwinnable from day one. I cannot wait for the videos of the gnashing of teeth.
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Oct 4, 2019 19:04
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The delusion continues. https://twitter.com/TyBeard10/status/1180181257927430145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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mallratcal posted:The delusion continues.
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Lol https://twitter.com/TyBeard10/status/1180181257927430145?s=20
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I hope Ty has a halftime show ready for us, this trial has been a roller coaster of emotions.
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I cannot wait to see what possible grounds he thinks he can win on appeal.
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mallratcal posted:The delusion continues. 
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I really hope the Judge awards a ton of costs against Vic so that lovely people don't try to sue people they've sexually assaulted after the victims come forward. There's really good public policy grounds for an extensive cost award.
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Oh man. Those replies. Half are saying they should give up and the other half are voicing continued support and lambasting those who dare stop being true believers. Also I'm not good at football. How many half-times per game? 
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Man Vicstans are embarrassing https://twitter.com/JoshuaZWalters/status/1180183534457249792?s=20 "Actually, the entire case being dismissed is good for Vic and shows the judge is on his side!"
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i've seen angles along the lines of "we lost the legal battle, but won the war - he's still getting invited to cons and knows his fanbase is behind him"
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I should use the " no losing is actually good for you" line with my clients the next time I lose a case, I'll report back on how well that goes.
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Can we change the thread title to "is a piece of a poo poo" as the law requires, thanks
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Fangz posted:Can we change the thread title to "is a piece of a poo poo" as the law requires, thanks Seconding this (because I only saw this post after I started a reply asking the same thing). "Vic Mignogna is legally a piece of poo poo" thread.
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mallratcal posted:The delusion continues. Halftime, only you're down 56-3 and the crowd's all leaving and your star QB's been thrown out of the game for dropkicking a cheerleader.
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