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I stopped eating protein bars once I learned that a lot of them use collagen for their protein which is worthless for muscles
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Collapsing Farts posted:collagen for their protein which is worthless for muscles what
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Oct 5, 2019 10:22
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Today is my first powerlifting meet and a subtle reminder that I ain’t poo poo when I saw everyone’s openers 
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Oct 5, 2019 10:46
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Collapsing Farts posted:I stopped eating protein bars once I learned that a lot of them use collagen for their protein which is worthless for muscles where the hell are you getting your protein bars? it's really easy to find ones that use whey at any grocery store or even gas station where I live, you just have to check the ingredients list LordArgh posted:what collagen has very low BCAA content (BCAAs are the part of protein that triggers muscle protein synthesis)
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Oct 5, 2019 12:47
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I do read the ingredients list and most bars contain milk protein and such but a lot of them have a hidden percentage of collagen or collagen peptides as well. So a bar worth 20 protein can be as little as 15 or 10 protein
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Oct 5, 2019 13:00
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As long as the ingredient list doesn't have either collagen or gelatin you're fine. Quest, Gatorade, Met-rx, Cliff and Powerbars don't.
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Oct 5, 2019 13:11
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Couch Life posted:Today is my first powerlifting meet and a subtle reminder that I ain’t poo poo when I saw everyone’s openers It's you vs bar, friend. I have a meet today too. My first time cutting instead of doing supers. Was 0.2kg under. Hell yeah! I'll score like twice as many points in this weight class for team.
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Oct 5, 2019 14:22
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turd in my singlet posted:collagen has very low BCAA content (BCAAs are the part of protein that triggers muscle protein synthesis) thought this sounded like some bro science so i went searching and found a review of the literature from 2017 which says the following https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5568273/ posted:The branched chain amino acids (BCAAs) are leucine, valine and isoleucine. A multi-million dollar industry of nutritional supplements has grown around the concept that dietary supplements of BCAAs alone produce an anabolic response in humans driven by a stimulation of muscle protein synthesis. In this brief review the theoretical and empirical bases for that claim are discussed. Theoretically, the maximal stimulation of muscle protein synthesis in the post-absorptive state in response to BCAAs alone is the difference between muscle protein breakdown and muscle protein synthesis (about 30% greater than synthesis), because the other EAAs required for synthesis of new protein can only be derived from muscle protein breakdown. Realistically, a maximal increase in muscle protein synthesis of 30% is an over-estimate because the obligatory oxidation of EAAs can never be completely suppressed. An extensive search of the literature has revealed no studies in human subjects in which the response of muscle protein synthesis to orally-ingested BCAAs alone was quantified, and only two studies in which the effect of intravenously infused BCAAs alone was assessed. Both of these intravenous infusion studies found that BCAAs decreased muscle protein synthesis as well as protein breakdown, meaning a decrease in muscle protein turnover. The catabolic state in which the rate of muscle protein breakdown exceeded the rate of muscle protein synthesis persisted during BCAA infusion. We conclude that the claim that consumption of dietary BCAAs stimulates muscle protein synthesis or produces an anabolic response in human subjects is unwarranted.
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quote:For this fundamental reason, a dietary supplement of BCAAs alone cannot support an increased rate of muscle protein synthesis. The availability of the other EAAs will rapidly become rate limiting for accelerated protein synthesis. Consistent with this perspective, the few studies in human subjects have reported decreases, rather than increases, in muscle protein synthesis after intake of BCAAs. We conclude that dietary BCAA supplements alone do not promote muscle anabolism. They're talking about taking supplemental BCAAs in absence of other EAAs. What turd is talking about is leucine triggering MPS which there is plenty of evidence for. Even if ingesting BCAAs trigger MPS if the body doesn't have anything to work with it's meaningless.
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Oct 5, 2019 16:02
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Eat collagen it makes your skin and teeth look great
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Oct 5, 2019 18:05
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all supplements are a scam
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Oct 5, 2019 19:31
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just realized I've been using a 20kg bar and just lost a lb on all my lifts
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bomb posted:Eat collagen it makes your skin and teeth look great Don't forget it gives you a mane of shiny hair (I'm bald)
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Oct 5, 2019 20:15
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nooneofconsequence posted:just realized I've been using a 20kg bar and just lost a lb on all my lifts No one took your lb measures seriously anyway, don't worry about it. All serious lifting is done in metric.
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Oct 5, 2019 20:21
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nooneofconsequence posted:just realized I've been using a 20kg bar and just lost a lb on all my lifts Maybe all your 45lb bars are secretly 20kg. Unless they're comp bars who cares. Get your free pound from the salami gods for lifting.
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Oct 5, 2019 20:24
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But I worked so hard for that 300 bench. Oh well, I fail at everything else in life it only makes sense my personal achievements are a lie.
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Oct 5, 2019 20:35
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Hit 305.
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Oct 5, 2019 20:37
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ultrafilter posted:Hit 305.  I hit a personal best 73kg snatch and 90kg c&j in my meet. After missing the first two snatches.
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Oct 5, 2019 20:39
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Guyver posted:They're talking about taking supplemental BCAAs in absence of other EAAs. What turd is talking about is leucine triggering MPS which there is plenty of evidence for. Even if ingesting BCAAs trigger MPS if the body doesn't have anything to work with it's meaningless. thing is, unless all you're eating is collagen, you're getting enough bcaa's from other food sources so i'm still not getting why the amino acid make up of collagen is a reason to avoid it
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Oct 5, 2019 21:21
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Also if you lift weights that is by far a bigger stimulus to muscle synthesis compared to eating protein. The main advantage to protein is that you require large amounts of it to build muscle (due to the fact muscle is predominantly protein) and it's beneficial in a cut due to limiting muscle loss/being more satiating, in which case it doesn't really matter what form the protein takes as long as you're getting balanced sources.
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Oct 5, 2019 21:54
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yeah this is a non-issue as long as you eat like normal human bein
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UnfurledSails posted:yeah this is a non-issue as long as you eat like normal human bein Who does, though?
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Oct 5, 2019 22:19
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If your dog dies from your diet, reconsider
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Oct 5, 2019 22:59
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ultrafilter posted:Hit 305. my dude I doubt I could even hit 250 these days.
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Oct 5, 2019 23:09
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UnfurledSails posted:If your dog dies from your diet, reconsider I eat lots of onions on the regular.... this doesn’t seem like a sound theory.
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LordArgh posted:thing is, unless all you're eating is collagen, you're getting enough bcaa's from other food sources so i'm still not getting why the amino acid make up of collagen is a reason to avoid it You questioned someone's paranoid statement, turd told you why they might think that, you cited a study and I told you that study didn't mean what you thought it meant.
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Oct 6, 2019 13:08
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Recovering from a headcold and it feels pretty good to just be back in the gym. Barely went near my maxes but even still it was nice to get back into the routine.
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Oct 6, 2019 14:19
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Anyone know what Henry Cavil was benching when he made Man of Steel? Dude had mass.
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Oct 6, 2019 15:02
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I think I've read some where he had a 305 training max for bench using juggernaut. So 340ish.
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Oct 6, 2019 15:10
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Which Hollywood actor do we think took the most gear to get big for a role My bet is Christian Bale playing batman, with Tom Hardy playing Bane second
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I feel like Ben Affleck for Batman is a contender too. Bale might have him beat because he did The Machinist just a year before and jesus christ he looks like a corpse in that movie. You should watch it it's better than any of the Batman movies.
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Oct 7, 2019 09:59
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What about that fat guy from Parks and Rec? He got pretty buff as Starlord in guardians of the galaxy? He lost like 60 pounds and gained a lot of muscle as a 35+ dude
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Fartbox posted:What about that fat guy from Parks and Rec? He got pretty buff as Starlord in guardians of the galaxy? I dunno, that looks very doable without steroids. Maybe if it was like 6 months or something?
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Oct 7, 2019 13:38
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doverhog posted:I feel like Ben Affleck for Batman is a contender too. Bale might have him beat because he did The Machinist just a year before and jesus christ he looks like a corpse in that movie. You should watch it it's better than any of the Batman movies. Wasn't there a story about Bale having to slim down because he'd bulked up too much for Batman Begins? I swear I'd heard that somewhere, but it's still an impressive feat to go from Machinist ghoul to swole Batman
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Fartbox posted:He lost like 60 pounds and gained a lot of muscle as a 35+ dude
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Oct 7, 2019 14:31
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I think it's honestly pretty easy if you have hollywood trainers building your workout routine and diet plan.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I think it's honestly pretty easy if you have hollywood trainers building your workout routine and diet plan. The diet and workout is the same you would get from good advice online, there’s no secret methods you don’t know. It’s the paying for someone every single day to make sure you don’t get lazy that works wonders.
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Oct 7, 2019 16:15
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There was a weight cutting guru in MMA a few years ago that some fighters would hire, and it turned out his secret method was that he would literally live with the fighter and only allow them to eat things he prepared so it was impossible cheat on your diet unless you were smuggling candybars with you into the shitter.
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Actors can get ripped easier because they have lots of money for steroids, and lots of time to train which is only useful with steroids because you're not training for hours every day without some chemical assistance in your recovery. Some legitimately don't know they're on steroids, though.
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