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Dammerung posted:Can they realistically turn on him? Consider how much water they have carried for him at this point, and how many of them already changed their opinions from him as disaster to him as a blameless savior. (Eg, Senator Graham.) if they think he will gently caress them more than his base will, they might. i have no idea how things will turn out, especially because stuff keeps escalating.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:if they think he will gently caress them more than his base will, they might. i have no idea how things will turn out, especially because stuff keeps escalating. It just seems to me like either situation ends with their destruction. They need Trump to succeed, because they've been saying that he will for such a long time in the face of all contrary evidence. Perhaps the only winning move is to, like many Republicans in Congress have already done, resign with some dignity and hope that somebody will find some sort of solution in the future.
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Dammerung posted:Can they realistically turn on him? Consider how much water they have carried for him at this point, and how many of them already changed their opinions from him as disaster to him as a blameless savior. (Eg, Senator Graham.) They don't seem to want to but it is extremely stupid of them not to. Like the same way he was a huge joke up until he wasn't, if Graham/etc. are all just like "I had a crisis of conscious and...." or whatevers and turn on him even most of his base will no longer be on his side in a couple of months because what they want most is to win and be associated with a winner. They can put anyone they want at the top and as long as they put out a message of "this guy's basically a classy Trump" and his base will get the message that the GOP is still going to be the white supremacist party but with a more cordial face again.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 Donald Trump still thinks it's 2016
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King of Foolians posted:He didn’t give a gently caress that the president of Finland was there. Yeah really
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 Those crafty Do-Nothing Democrats have somehow invented time travel! TIMELINE HARRASSMENT! DO SOMETHING! 
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 Remember how for like eight months after he won Trump himself/Fox News/etc. was all about how crooked Hillary rigged the election and evil democrats rigged the election and WE REALLY FOUND HER EMAILS FOR REAL THIS TIME FOR REAL GUYS REALLY because that's clearly what they had prepared in advance from the minute Clinton and Trump both own the primaries.
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Dammerung posted:It just seems to me like either situation ends with their destruction. They need Trump to succeed, because they've been saying that he will for such a long time in the face of all contrary evidence. Perhaps the only winning move is to, like many Republicans in Congress have already done, resign with some dignity and hope that somebody will find some sort of solution in the future. yeah, like i said, they either take their poo poo show now or in 2020, because at this rate, trumps probably hosed either way. Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 i like how he legit thinks he can flip that narrative but he can't because it doesn't work on too many levels, at least for appeal outside the chud base.
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Shifty Pony posted:It is impressive. The cowboy mythology here in Texas is a very similar case of idolizing an incredibly poo poo life. The trick to understanding the mindset of the early settlers is to recognize that they were basically the Bitcoin miners of their day- and that goes doubly so for Laura Ingalls Wilders' (selfish, lovely) parents. Her father and mother had both been raised in the city and had no practical agricultural experience- but at the time the government was encouraging people to settle the land Westward and the railroads were selling what amounted to farm starter kits. The average settler moving out was like Laura Ingalls Wilder's family, no practical agricultural experience, no frontier experience- they had purchased the equivalent of an Ikea kit to start their own 5-acre rural Farm and set off for the wilderness. In the case of Laura Ingalls Wilder's family, there is not a single year of their lives where they ever worked on a succesful Farm. Despite the farm being depicted as successful and abundant in the television series, in reality the family was constantly being saved with food gifts from their and they were always working odd jobs in town to make extra money to support the farm.( in point of fact it was desperation for money to keep the farm afloat that prompted Laura Ingalls Wilder to write her young adult novels) Her family was constantly moving in and out of the city as the various Farms they worked inevitably failed, and the one fun they had that was going kind of well they got driven off of because their father had stolen the land from natives in such a brazen manner that even the local Army fort wouldn't support his claim. ( also complicated by her father's refusal to pay the various taxes he owed to the US government) All of this gets even more bizarre if you dive into the life of the person who was instrumental in getting Laura Ingalls Wilder's published- her daughter. Her daughter was a blatant pedophile who repeatedly groomed her victims and tried to get them elected into political office. (Her daughter's political beliefs would also, not coincidentally, be right in line with the modern libertarian ethos.) When you watch Little House on the Prairie keep in mind that the reason it's only white people walking around is because only 10 years earlier the US Government had genocided the native population in the area. Also, the land they were on was incapable of supporting English-style farming (rainfall is too inconsistent) and all those failed/abandoned Farms were a major cause of the Dust Bowl.
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Neo Rasa posted:They don't seem to want to but it is extremely stupid of them not to. Like the same way he was a huge joke up until he wasn't, if Graham/etc. are all just like "I had a crisis of conscious and...." or whatevers and turn on him even most of his base will no longer be on his side in a couple of months because what they want most is to win and be associated with a winner. They can put anyone they want at the top and as long as they put out a message of "this guy's basically a classy Trump" and his base will get the message that the GOP is still going to be the white supremacist party but with a more cordial face again. I guess there's a certain appeal to riding the tiger. It really does seem like, at least from where I am sitting, that the only real winners, in this case, were the people who got out while the going was still relatively good. In terms of personal careers, I'm not sure if there was any other "winning" move. In terms of the future of the party, I agree that tying themselves to Trump will destroy them in the future, but at this point, I don't know what they might be able to do to try to rehabilitate themselves. Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, like i said, they either take their poo poo show now or in 2020, because at this rate, trumps probably hosed either way. Probably 2020. They have to do everything they can to make it seem like somebody else's fault, after all! 
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Push El Burrito posted:How long until the defense will just be Trump saying "actually I'm not being impeached at all, we're impeaching the Democrats"? Hes kinda already tried this depending on how you parse his word salad.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:seems NK basicaly just demanded everything for nothing. Which is what they have continuously done and why previous administrations haven't had any luck making progress. Then this one decided to ignore what everyone else has done and had to learn all the lessons over again from square one.
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syntaxrigger posted:Heh another one if these Anal Cunts
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 Does interfering in the 2020 election just mean participating in the 2020 election? Cause that seems to dumb to say but he just fired the Speaker of the House and demanded Adam Schiff's resignation so.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180559858699030529?s=21 Get hosed mittens Edit: actually it would be good if he suffers no electoral consequences for even his milquetoast rebuff of trump.
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 Those Do Nothing Democrats sure are doing a lot of things, huh?
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Jealous Cow posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180559858699030529?s=21 This is equal parts hilarious and scary lmao, rules that our president is totally insane.
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Jealous Cow posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180559858699030529?s=21 Somehow I don't think he's telling the truth here. I don't have any specifics on hand but Utah like Romney waaaay more than it likes Trump.
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Republicans turned on Nixon once they were sure he'd cost them re-election. But those were probably smarter Republicans than any currently holding office
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 
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Retro42 posted:Somehow I don't think he's telling the truth here. Yeah, Evan McMullin got 22% there. Basically Trump got 45% and Not Trump got 49%. And even more people would be voting Not Trump today, Mitt's doing the right thing to appeal to his base.
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Jealous Cow posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1180559858699030529?s=21 Lol, he's actually trying to do a "no puppet, you're the puppet" on impeachment 
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Retro42 posted:Somehow I don't think he's telling the truth here. We do. Heck, I don't even like Romney that much myself, but this has the potential to be a crossing the rubicon moment. Shimrra Jamaane posted:I really hope Mitt doesn’t back down. If he doesn't back down, he'll be seen as a hero. I can almost guarantee that.
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The removal of Senators is not an impeachment process, just a simple removal vote by their one chamber of Congress. I did it, I found an error in a Donald Trump tweet.
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ShuckyDucky posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180564696979648513 Hillary Clinton isn’t currently the President you braindead shitface.
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I like that Saladino keeps trying to suck up to him on each and every twitter post. Keep trying, I'm sure Trump will care about you personally and help you advance in the party like he did Graham.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I like that Saladino keeps trying to suck up to him on each and every twitter post. Keep trying, I'm sure Trump will care about you personally and help you advance in the party like he did Graham. Having looked at the positions on his site, he doesn't seem to have anything else to offer aside from his fealty to President Trump. I'd go into more details about his espoused positions, but there isn't much to them and I don't think most people here would be too interested.
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ShuckyDucky posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180564696979648513 He still thinks they made hard copies of the e-mails and literally washed them in acid...  this loving boomer
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Willo567 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180551689818050562 Naturally, the 2018 election didn't happen. All these Democrats just came out of nowhere!
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I like that Saladino keeps trying to suck up to him on each and every twitter post. Keep trying, I'm sure Trump will care about you personally and help you advance in the party like he did Graham. fox cargo culting is a fascinating development. all these people being as brazenly in the tank for Republican orthodoxy as the dark-money paid hacks, and discovering that without a bankroller it's not quite the route to success it seems there are success stories! there's Diamond and Silk, there's Candace Owens, there was (briefly) Milo, and of course there was Donald Trump, but it's a hard road out there if you don't start off with a sugar daddy.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I like that Saladino keeps trying to suck up to him on each and every twitter post. Keep trying, I'm sure Trump will care about you personally and help you advance in the party like he did Graham. Well yeah, he found a kindred spirit who also likes piss. He's having a hard time bringing that up himself, though.
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