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the tholians became powerful after they decided to model their civilization after mission logs recorded by spock, nd they are looking for spock. one might even say, searching
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Grand Fromage posted:They said something about the Trill being important, I wonder if they're going to grab that novel thing of the Conspiracy aliens actually being Evil Trill and run with that. They took Control from the books already so they're willing to raid them for ideas. My guess will be that thousand year old trills who've been around the entire life of the Federation are the only ones who can accurately tell them what actually went wrong with the Federation.
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Pick posted:That's actually just morn. He's got to fight, he needs to find his adopted brother, Spock This but unironically, considering that Morn was described as having a full head of hair that only fell out due to latinum poisoning.
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They should really not be doing the ‘this is an actual future’ thing
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MikeJF posted:My guess will be that thousand year old trills who've been around the entire life of the Federation are the only ones who can accurately tell them what actually went wrong with the Federation. lack of spock 
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MikeJF posted:My guess will be that thousand year old trills who've been around the entire life of the Federation are the only ones who can accurately tell them what actually went wrong with the Federation. Also makes sense, but Evil Trill Conspiracy seems more in Disco's wheelhouse.
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MikeJF posted:My guess will be that thousand year old trills who've been around the entire life of the Federation are the only ones who can accurately tell them what actually went wrong with the Federation. You know we will probably run into either Future Dax or the Dax symbiont
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MikeJF posted:Ah. Yeah, I was just aping the style of the tweet, but I guess in our post-parody world, it can be hard to be sure of anything.  For reference: Snow Cone Capone posted:The Disco S3 trailer is airing literally right now at NYCC: Powered Descent posted:Tellarites eating popsicles. A starship with two saucers. Tilly playing water polo. Starfleet arrowhead now has point down(!!!)
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah that seems like the most likely answer Due to billion-to-one bad luck and just as rare a  miracle, Dax was the first Trill permanently reimplanted in a non-host creature, a certain Mr.  Bonus points if because of neural conflicts between Trill and Vulcan neurology Tilly has to control Spock's body with the remote control from Spock's brain
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Oct 5, 2019 19:27
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Snow Cone Capone posted:"we need more callbacks" is that a cardassian too
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https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1180551332228321280?s=20 Riker cookin’ up his famous omelettes again 
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Do they... think the stars on the flag represent the member planets? There were over 100 members in TNG and the flag ain't got 100+ stars.
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Grand Fromage posted:Do they... think the stars on the flag represent the member planets? There were over 100 members in TNG and the flag ain't got 100+ stars. Look the stars on the US flag are states and the Federation is clearly Future Space America so they must be planets.
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Oct 5, 2019 19:52
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MikeJF posted:Look the stars on the US flag are states and the Federation is clearly Future Space America so they must be planets. I looked again, there's more stars than I remember but still not nearly enough. Also the concluding sentence on Ex Astris is good. "But in spite of everything we may just not be supposed to observe so closely as in this article." Tagline for the entire site there, dude.
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Looks like a new Short Trek is out now, with Spock and Number 1 (the lady, not the dog).
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MikeJF posted:My guess will be that thousand year old trills who've been around the entire life of the Federation are the only ones who can accurately tell them what actually went wrong with the Federation. This actually tracks well considering Burnham is, as always, the center of attention and the trailer shows her floating in a Trill pool
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It still kind of hurts to hear how tired PatStew sounds. Riker and Troi got me giddy again. I kind of suspect we'll be spending a lot more time than expected with the new characters, but whatevs. edit: if it's blocked for you as well: https://twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1180551476604805121?s=19 davidspackage fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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The expanse trailer was quite good, I'm excited for some science fiction
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mythicknight posted:I should rewatch Andromeda. gently caress, that's exactly what this is isn't it. Minus Kevin Sorbo jesus'ing it up.
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EimiYoshikawa posted:
Hell, look at it this way: Fire deaths have been trending downward for some years now. In the US, the rate has declined steadily over the last 40 years and if it continues as-is, "fire" as a cause of death will be functionally eliminated by 2050. Western Europe is running a slower decline, but still making substantial improvements. The French should reach eliminated status by the mid-2060s. You don't even really need some sort of magical space technology. Just marginally better than what we already have. Or probably just more smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in private homes.
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I'm sure there was an aside in one of the Culture novels about people who, despite living in a hyper-advanced society overseen by near-omnipotent AIs, deliberately went out mountain climbing or whatever without their equivalent of phones just so they could say they lived dangerously every once in a while. (As opposed to joining Contact or Special Circumstances because, y'know, they didn't want to live too dangerously.)
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mythicknight posted:I should rewatch Andromeda. Ugh. I tried that a few months ago and I only made it as far as the third episode. It was full of annoying kids and its does not hold up in the slightest.
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One thing that always stood out to me about Andromeda is how incredibly bad the background music was, like we're talking low grade MIDI trumpets that sounded fake and bad even for the late 90s.
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Oct 5, 2019 21:23
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I made it to the end of the first season but not even Lexa Doig could get me to continue.
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Grand Fromage posted:I made it to the end of the first season but not even Lexa Doig could get me to continue. And that was the good season. It gets progressively worse as it goes on as Kevin Sorbo takes it over to make it Christian Hercules lite, and completely off the rails by the final season.
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Payndz posted:I'm sure there was an aside in one of the Culture novels about people who, despite living in a hyper-advanced society overseen by near-omnipotent AIs, deliberately went out mountain climbing or whatever without their equivalent of phones just so they could say they lived dangerously every once in a while. (As opposed to joining Contact or Special Circumstances because, y'know, they didn't want to live too dangerously.) Masaq' orbital, the setting for Look to Windward, was known for its dangerous sports and being home to daredevils. Also one of the highest rates of mind-state backup in the Culture as a result of such behavior, so most people never died permanently, although some chose to live as One-Offs and risk their death. Sash! posted:Hell, look at it this way: And if you consider what magical space tech they do have, you don't need a premise of always-on scanning and monitoring like 1984, just a basic little standalone detector in the house that can pick up a fire and hail emergency services. And within a millisecond of knowing there's a problem and the full force of Federation tech and transporters focused on the emergency, everyone inside would be safe barring some kind of exotic energy disaster. Considering it's illegal not to have smoke detectors in homes here now, I'd imagine that living in a home without a simple safety sensor would be illegal then and quite frankly child endangerment if you have a kid like Renee Picard. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Do they... think the stars on the flag represent the member planets? There were over 100 members in TNG and the flag ain't got 100+ stars. MikeJF posted:Look the stars on the US flag are states and the Federation is clearly Future Space America so they must be planets. But it’s almost always been presented this way? The larger stars are founding worlds (Earth, Vulcan, Tellar etc), the smaller stars are members. The new flag lines up with the “worlds have been leaving the Federation by the dozens, including Andoria and Vulcan” leak.
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I don't think they've ever claimed the smaller ones are members. It didn't change for over a century as the Federation expanded. The large pointed stars being the founders was kinda a fanon theory but that never made sense since there are three stars and at least four founders (Earth, Vulcan, Tellar, Andoria) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Oct 5, 2019 |
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They also never claimed the big stars are the founders either, since there are three big stars and four founders. There was some discussion of the stars being Earth, Vulcan, and Qo'Nos when they were considering the Klingons being Federation members for TNG but that was obviously dropped. The number of background stars is also wildly inconsistent over the dozens of versions of the logo.
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The idea of an old school Warbird from the rubble of the Romulan Empire showing up is pretty cool, although I hope that's not the final CGI pass.
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Sash! posted:Hell, look at it this way: I get that, and Robert being a massive technophobe is why it's even possible, at all, that it could have happened in the Chalet Picard. It's just...I mean, Earth in TNG days is basically magical space utopia, it's surrounded by satellites and starships and sensor nets, it's the seat of the Federation's government, as well as Starfleet's, and it prides itself on being Paradise, where no one wants, or fears, or suffers, or dies in a house fire. Yes, I get that it was (if you give the writers of Generations the benefit of the doubt, given that it obviously got the short end of the writing stick between it and All Good Things) supposed to be extra tragic and ironic that this could happen on Earth, but...you have to throw away 24th century emergency medicine, emergency transporters, Earth being surrounded in sensors, all of it, and it just...they should have just had it be a random transport craft crashing into them and crushing them beyond repair as Robert and his son were at a school festival or something, or some other unpreventable freak occurrence, rather than something that is so preventable and catch-able. I mean, I don't even get mad over this! I don't exactly sit in a room and stew about it, or even think about it unless other people bring it up. I don't post on any trek sites other than this (and the GBS) thread, and never have. It just...it's...dumb...and that's what gets me. Clearly, I'm kind of dumb, too, to let it get to me this much, I'll fully cop to that fact, but still.
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The fire was just to destroy the bodies after Picards nephew said he wanted to join Starfleet and so his father murder suicided.
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Grand Fromage posted:They also never claimed the big stars are the founders either, since there are three big stars and four founders. There was some discussion of the stars being Earth, Vulcan, and Qo'Nos when they were considering the Klingons being Federation members for TNG but that was obviously dropped.
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