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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5V7Wy0RfYY Goddamn why are the Houthis so good at this?
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Oct 5, 2019 23:38
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In other news, the Turkish government is about to destroy a 12,000 year old city.
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Oct 5, 2019 23:49
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the green zone in baghdad has been completely overrun by the protestors
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https://twitter.com/ahmedalbasheer1/status/1180565826774155264
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Iraq War 3.0 here we gooooo
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These are moderate rebels right? 
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Oct 6, 2019 01:27
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Wait who are the "insurgents" and who are the "activists"
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StashAugustine posted:Wait who are the "insurgents" and who are the "activists"
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Oct 6, 2019 01:50
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StashAugustine posted:Wait who are the "insurgents" and who are the "activists" One of the last remaining and overworked staffers at the state department in a delirious fugue state asking cspam who to bomb
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420 Gank Mid posted:One of the last remaining and overworked staffers at the state department in a delirious fugue state asking cspam who to bomb coin flip?
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Oct 6, 2019 02:00
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:the green zone in baghdad has been completely overrun by the protestors 
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Oct 6, 2019 02:05
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Am I correct in saying that these protesters support the US's stated aims in the middle east of reducing Iran's regional influence, but not their actual aims of increasing the US's regional influence and therefore are opposed by the US foreign policy establishment?
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30.5 Days posted:Am I correct in saying that these protesters support the US's stated aims in the middle east of reducing Iran's regional influence, but not their actual aims of increasing the US's regional influence and therefore are opposed by the US foreign policy establishment? I'm pretty sure these protesters don't give a gently caress about the US either way. They're protesting about basic domestic problems, like high unemployment, government corruption, and the fact that security forces are shooting at them. The US foreign policy establishment considers them troublesome not because of their actual aims, but because they endanger the stability of the current Western-friendly Iraqi government. if the US thought they were anti-America protesters, the Official Media Line would be actively calling for the protesters to be massacred, not just passively handwringing about "violent protests" while conspicuously ignoring the fact that government troops are the ones bringing the violence
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Oct 6, 2019 02:50
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30.5 Days posted:Am I correct in saying that these protesters support the US's stated aims in the middle east of reducing Iran's regional influence, but not their actual aims of increasing the US's regional influence and therefore are opposed by the US foreign policy establishment? pretty sure they hate the us too lol
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Oct 6, 2019 03:09
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:the green zone in baghdad has been completely overrun by the protestors
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Oct 6, 2019 03:33
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https://twitter.com/JuliaHugoRachel/status/1180575162485264384?s=20
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Oct 6, 2019 03:35
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For people not familiar with the term the Green Zone is basically where international lanyards and their various hanger ons are garrisoned. Sort of like the Iraqi version the snobbier parts of DC.
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:the green zone in baghdad has been completely overrun by the protestors Where can we See these things
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I was seeing something on Twitter pointing out that folks in Mosul were pissed about the statue being removed, and that it was unexpected because he's Shia and Mosul is in a heavily Sunni area. I know poo poo about Iraqi politics, but that plus a couple other things I read make it seem like the protests aren't breaking down across those lines.
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mcclay posted:Does anyone have the link to the start of the big Iran-Iraq war effortposts that happened in the A/T mil hist thread? This is the last effortpost they made which has links to all of them. There's also the Lions Led by Donkeys Podcast, which has a 6 part series about the Iran-Iraq War starting from the Iranian Revolution. Its sort of like Hardcore History but more lighthearted, and hosted by people who were actually in the military. They also have series about the Soviet-Afghan War and the history of civil war in Yemen.
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etalian posted:For people not familiar with the term the Green Zone is basically where international lanyards and their various hanger ons are garrisoned. is it still sealed off from the rest of the city by berlin style wall
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StashAugustine posted:Wait who are the "insurgents" and who are the "activists" yes Raskolnikov38 posted:is it still sealed off from the rest of the city by berlin style wall i think they removed the barriers a few months ago, there were a couple article about how much better the traffic in baghdad got because of it
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Oct 6, 2019 19:17
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30.5 Days posted:Am I correct in saying that these protesters support the US's stated aims in the middle east of reducing Iran's regional influence, but not their actual aims of increasing the US's regional influence and therefore are opposed by the US foreign policy establishment? muqtada al-sadr is heavily supporting the protests, as is the communist party
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I literally don't believe this. There's no way any Iraqi could have even an ounce of faith in the US at this point. That's like still trusting the scorpion after it's stung you.
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30.5 Days posted:Am I correct in saying that these protesters support the US's stated aims in the middle east of reducing Iran's regional influence, but not their actual aims of increasing the US's regional influence and therefore are opposed by the US foreign policy establishment? You know, other countries have politics too, not just the US.
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man google translate for arabic is pretty good https://iraqicp.com/index.php/sections/party/25595-2019-10-04-17-10-26
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TrilliontonNixon posted:I literally don't believe this. There's no way any Iraqi could have even an ounce of faith in the US at this point. That's like still trusting the scorpion after it's stung you. neocons want troops back there to counter iran and dont care about looking insane
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1181043939899523072 Looks like Turks are actually gonna roll in. Grondoth posted:Where can we See these things I recommend not seeing these things. The Iraqi Army is escalating the use of lethal force. NSFW: https://twitter.com/AAlsalman91/status/1180955788875042819?s=19
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I am shocked, shocked, yadda yadda yadda.
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As loving awful as the Trump presidency has been for the whole world, I can't help but feel there's a great thing being done by finally peeling off the mask so that everyone can see just what we truly are.
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Grondoth posted:As loving awful as the Trump presidency has been for the whole world, I can't help but feel there's a great thing being done by finally peeling off the mask so that everyone can see just what we truly are. libs still want us to go back to the good ol days where we invaded other counties and overthrew governments but at least we didnt swear when we did it so its not like it really matters.
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TrilliontonNixon posted:I literally don't believe this. There's no way any Iraqi could have even an ounce of faith in the US at this point. That's like still trusting the scorpion after it's stung you. the hearts and minds campaign was not a total failure: we threw a LOT at propaganda trying to explain how we were the good guys. it also turned out we were the heart-stoppingly incompetent guys, though, so while they'd like us to do the right thing they have no reason to expect it. hence the whole "physically capturing the centers of government" thing
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goodog posted:This is the last effortpost they made which has links to all of them. God bless friend. Thank you for this
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30.5 Days posted:Am I correct in saying that these protesters support the US's stated aims in the middle east of reducing Iran's regional influence, but not their actual aims of increasing the US's regional influence and therefore are opposed by the US foreign policy establishment? Iraq is a Shiite-majority state with much of the demonstrations happening in the Shiite south. However, its institutions are very weak and being hollowed out and replaced by Iranian-backed factions and militias, who are corrupt af. Iranian-backed factions and militias have been leading the repression of protestors, and attacking media (smashing TV stations, etc) that air the demonstrations or are otherwise perceived as unfriendly to Iran. Iraqis have a tough enough lot, and just want to exercise their national sovereignty. - quote:Economic and political frustrations are at the heart of the protests. But anger has also been directed at Iran, which is seen as having undue influence over the government. The dismissal of Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi, a popular army commander, brought many of his southern tribesmen onto the streets. They believe he was ousted for trying to root out corruption in the army, particularly among Shia militia groups with close ties to Iran. Al-Saadi's face has been seen on placards waved by protesters. “Out, out Iran. Set our country free,” they say.
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