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voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Nah we actually supervise him when he's watching poo poo on the tablet. He has learned to hate ads at a young age too.

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Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

bike tory posted:

The weird thing is my son used to genuinely prefer the algorithmically generated CGI videos to the clearly human directed stuff. It's like the machines have figured out some deep level lizard brain itch to scratch in little kids.

If we'd let him he would've sat for hours watching a late 90s-quality voice synth say "green colour fire truck" while a cg video shows a blocky 10-polygon truck drive up a ramp into a green paint tin.

OTOH as a result of these hideous videos he's known his colours, shapes and has been able to read numbers to 10 since he was 18months old.

He could be doing the same if you sat down with him and actually taught him things instead of letting him get eye cancer and PTSD from Spiderman raping Elsa for the 20th time

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Siljmonster posted:

He could be doing the same if you sat down with him and actually taught him things instead of letting him get eye cancer and PTSD from Spiderman raping Elsa for the 20th time

Maybe hes one of the dumbass parents that dont stop doing baby talk till they're like 5 so their kid sounds like a crazy person

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

lol if you think parents of 18 month old kids should be trying to teach them to read numbers and recognise shapes

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

It's funny how many times the article is corrected to basically say "Youtube took down this specific channel (after it got public attention) but there still a ton of the same stuff on there."

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

At 14 months your child should know how to dupe items in Diablo 1

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Good soup! posted:

At 14 months your child should know how to dupe items in Diablo 1

Isn't that how some families make ends meet in Korea?

a few DRUNK BONERS
Mar 25, 2016

I bet you could get him a real good head start on learning spanish or mandarin if you let him dedicate a few more hours in the day towards the cgi kids video youtube school

Good soup!
Nov 2, 2010

BURIED ALIVE Elsa Spiderman Hulk Batman Counting Fingers Duping King's Sword of Speed

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Good soup! posted:

At 14 months your child should know how to dupe items in Diablo 1

If I learned how to do it at 11 upon release drat for sure a 3 year old can do it on the PS1 version

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I'll never have kids cuz I like dick but lol just lol if you let your small children anywhere near the loving internet in tyool 2019. Absolutely terrible parenting

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !
Just go to Goodwill and buy a box of kids books. There aren't any ads in those

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Sjs00 posted:

Just go to Goodwill and buy a box of kids books. There aren't any ads in those

lol
https://slate.com/culture/2016/08/bemoaning-the-licensed-character-commodity-garbage-that-makes-up-most-children-s-book-publishing.html
https://www.amazon.com/Just-Wait-Til-Were-Diamond/dp/1889299006

Blockade
Oct 22, 2008

I have a co-worker with kids who can only get to content he hosts himself, downloaded YouTube videos and kids movies and such. He says that they're allowed on the general internet as soon as they can get around the filters.

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Blockade posted:

I have a co-worker with kids who can only get to content he hosts himself, downloaded YouTube videos and kids movies and such. He says that they're allowed on the general internet as soon as they can get around the filters.

:hmmyes:

Although it's really more about developing the mental filters in the kid's mind so you don't end up with a 13 year old Nazi 4chan poster crack pinged since elementary school

Zeno-25 has issued a correction as of 06:16 on Oct 6, 2019

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
e: whoops my bad fam

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

bike tory posted:

lol if you think parents of 18 month old kids should be trying to teach them to read numbers and recognise shapes

idk I was reading on my own at two.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

You fuckin nerd

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

Sjs00 posted:

Just go to Goodwill and buy a box of kids books. There aren't any ads in those
I remember Pratchett getting pissed when he found out his German publisher has been inserting native ads in his books, literally pausing the action to put some scene of our fantasy heroes enjoying a real-life product. Fuckin ahead of the curve there

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012
I just watched some talks by James Bridle and I get what he is saying but there is one thing I just have to disagree with.
He talks about how computers have made complexity of the world visible and that is making people anxious and is helping to polarize everything.
I would actually argue the opposite, computer models of complex systems have time and time again been proven to not be accurate enough. All these system have essentially lied to us for a long time making us believe that the world is simpler that it really is. The failing of these models is what is getting people to notice the shortcomings of these systems.

Adam Curtis has a documentary where he touches on this phenomenon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trap_(TV_series)

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

bike tory posted:

You fuckin nerd

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/06/sorry-we-missed-you-ken-loach-gig-economy-human-cost?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

good lord, at the bottom of this is reviews from MPs.
you’ve got Lammy, and then the atrocious apologists. Yes people die because of zero hour contracts but we can’t forget the “”””aspiration””””!

ManBoyChef
Aug 1, 2019

Deadbeat Dad



Arms_Akimbo posted:

I've been trying to get my employer to stop buying Christopher Ranch garlic for awhile. I'm friends with our buyer, but he says it's CR or nothing, our supplier doesn't carry anything else.

why not just make it? Buttermilk. mayo, powdered garlic, parsley flakes, salt/pepper

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Good soup! posted:

PBS is still good

not a kids show, but pbs spacetime is legit one of the best teen & adult scientific education programs in that it deals with current topics, goes for understanding rather than only wonder, and builds up scaffolding for comprehension over many episodes -- rather than just throwing up its hands and saying "it's complicated" and then showing unrelated grade school experiments as supposed analogies for an hour while a shouty host goes "WHOA DUDE" (nova is discovery-channel-tier-garbage nowdays even when it isnt literal Koch "strip the earth for its resources" propaganda)

only real annoyance with spacetime is they force in a bunch of memes, but overall im jealous that i didnt have it as a kid, which is how the world should be

infinite series was ok too but got canned

every other pbs digital studios show ive seen is either youtube cringe or npr brainworms garbo though

Raldikuk
Apr 7, 2006

I'm bad with money and I want that meatball!

ManBoyChef posted:

why not just make it? Buttermilk. mayo, powdered garlic, parsley flakes, salt/pepper

Christopher Ranch is a brand of garlic...ranch meaning like farm, not the dressing.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

bike tory posted:

lol if you think parents of 18 month old kids should be trying to teach them to read numbers and recognise shapes

It’s worth emphasizing that pediatricians strongly recommend against kids 18 months or younger watching any television or any other video medium for any significant length of time. It is believed it can cause developmental problems and late language acquisition. For children under 2 there is no safe level of exposure to tv.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

I was reading by 2 and posting about pokemon by 3 get on my level

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !
But let's not forget the parents who completely ignored the 'parental ratings' of movies during our childhood.
Never gonna forget the lynching scene in Swordfish, which my parents thought was an acceptable movie to enjoy at Magic Kingdom
I was not older than ten.

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007
My mom gave us a VHS of The Thing for a sleepover in first grade, it owned.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
I got published in the Ny Times as a toddler, please kiss my rear end

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Peanut President posted:

I got published in the Ny Times as a toddler, please kiss my rear end

Wow, I loved their "ugly toddlers to laugh at" column when I was studying to be a cootie specialist at age 4.5, after my time in the foreign legion

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



IAMKOREA posted:

My mom gave us a VHS of The Thing for a sleepover in first grade, it owned.

my mom insisted that my friends and I watch the leprechaun series of horror movies when we had sleepovers as kids

my mom kicks rear end

foobardog
Apr 19, 2007

There, now I can tell when you're posting.

-- A friend :)

On one hand, the glut of licensing is bad on the other hand The Monster at the End of This Book is fantastic. :colbert:

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

bike tory posted:

The weird thing is my son used to genuinely prefer the algorithmically generated CGI videos to the clearly human directed stuff. It's like the machines have figured out some deep level lizard brain itch to scratch in little kids.

If we'd let him he would've sat for hours watching a late 90s-quality voice synth say "green colour fire truck" while a cg video shows a blocky 10-polygon truck drive up a ramp into a green paint tin.

OTOH as a result of these hideous videos he's known his colours, shapes and has been able to read numbers to 10 since he was 18months old.

He will betray you for the machine mother

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Ruffian Price posted:

I remember Pratchett getting pissed when he found out his German publisher has been inserting native ads in his books, literally pausing the action to put some scene of our fantasy heroes enjoying a real-life product. Fuckin ahead of the curve there

Wait what? Was there a version of disc world where Vimes had to stop to crack open a refreshing Diet Coke before arresting some criminals?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
i watched robocop in preschool but it was ok because my parents fast forwarded through the part where murphy gets shot like 50 times and decided absolutely nothing else was inappropriate for a small child

i assume this was a common experience because how else do you explain robocop 3

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Pornographic Memory posted:

i watched robocop in preschool but it was ok because my parents fast forwarded through the part where murphy gets shot like 50 times and decided absolutely nothing else was inappropriate for a small child

There was a video store opposite my house, and it only sold pornos and action/horror movies.
They wouldn't give us the pornos, but happily gave us the others.
I watched so many 80s slasher films before the age of 10 I laughed at acid guy in Robocop as it was more goofy than scary.
My uncle was babysitting us at the time and said to my parents that it freaked them that me and my brothers weren't afraid of it.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

T-man posted:

Wow, I loved their "ugly toddlers to laugh at" column when I was studying to be a cootie specialist at age 4.5, after my time in the foreign legion

actually I was one of the writers calling for war in iraq because only toddlers would think it's a good idea

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voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Squalid posted:

It’s worth emphasizing that pediatricians strongly recommend against kids 18 months or younger watching any television or any other video medium for any significant length of time. It is believed it can cause developmental problems and late language acquisition. For children under 2 there is no safe level of exposure to tv.

That's a bit of an exaggeration and needs to be put into context. In the early 2000s there were a bunch of "educational media" marketed to parents of very young kids, Baby Einsteins is probably the best known. Their claims of educational value were totally unsupported and yeah there's a lot of evidence now that regular screen time for kids under 18 months can actually be harmful, and even older than that it's not great. Which is why the AAP and various other organisations have put out some fairly strong recommendations now.

But it isn't "any" screen time, letting your 1yo occasionally watch videos like to keep them quiet at a wedding ceremony or on a flight or some poo poo isn't going to damage them. Sitting them down for an hour of Baby Einsteins every day is certainly not good for them though. The difference imo is whether or not it's a time that they would've otherwise spent interacting with people/their environment, that is being replaced by them staring passively at a screen.

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