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Christ, and I thought I’ve had some petty bosses. Just fire him and let him have some dignity.
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Oct 6, 2019 00:58
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fsif posted:They could have just fired him. Like they didn't need an excuse about extracurriculars. 1) Dan Snyder once left 30 flavors of ice cream to melt on Mike Nolan's desk with a note that said, "I don't like vanilla," to criticize his defense when he was their DC. 2) Snyder and Allen think this is the way to get out of paying Jay Gruden the rest of his contract. Not sure if they're trying to get him to quit or if they're trying to trigger some bullshit "character clause," but whatever it is, this is to clawback some of the money he's owed.
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Oct 6, 2019 01:13
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How much money can he be owed at this point? Isn't he at the end of his deal?
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Oct 6, 2019 01:44
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Hunt11 posted:Are they trying to make the Redskins such a toxic organization that no one wants anything to do with them? I think that ship's gone around the world by now
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Oct 6, 2019 02:01
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Hunt11 posted:Are they trying to make the Redskins such a toxic organization that no one wants anything to do with them? Still unnecessary since that was already the case.
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Oct 6, 2019 02:02
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e: how did this get here
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Oct 6, 2019 02:12
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Grudens contract is done at the end of this season, he signed a 2 year extension in 2017
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Oct 6, 2019 02:14
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If they fire Gruden, I think they will still owe him $5 million. Is the leak a sad attempt to claw it back? Regardless, Snyder seems to always find a way to make his franchise more toxic.
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Oct 6, 2019 02:43
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$5 million isn't worth as much to Snyder as keeping Jay Gruden from having future football success. Any clawback is a bonus.
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Oct 6, 2019 02:47
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Gerund posted:$5 million isn't worth as much to Snyder as keeping Jay Gruden from having future football success. Any clawback is a bonus. the man's brother is a head coach with a fully guaranteed contract. he could have a jeffrey epstein sized scandal and still be coaching next year
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Oct 6, 2019 02:50
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That's not going to stop Snyder from trying. That video is probably going to lead to Jay getting divorced.
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Oct 6, 2019 02:53
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Ches Neckbeard posted:That's not going to stop Snyder from trying. That video is probably going to lead to Jay getting divorced. Cheating on his wife probably lead to it.
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Oct 6, 2019 03:08
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Gerund posted:$5 million isn't worth as much to Snyder as keeping Jay Gruden from having future football success. Any clawback is a bonus. I get that Snyder/Allen is vindictive, but he can't be this self defeating. No one of merit will want to coach/GM for him if he keeps salting the earth in this way. For example, Snyder and Co. tried desperately to replace their DC over the summer and failed despite what was reported to be very good money (they supposedly offered the moon to Todd Bowles and he still said no). Coaches have made lateral moves or even taken slight demotions to get out of Washington. Perhaps he thinks things can't get any worse? Gruden will get another OC job, doobies or no. He can get a lot out of so so QBs and can reliably scheme people open in the passing game.
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Oct 6, 2019 03:10
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Chichevache posted:Cheating on his wife probably lead to it. You're not wrong. I'm saying it's part of Snyders angle. He may get a job with his brother but his marriage is hosed.
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Oct 6, 2019 03:19
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I eagerly await a gen z scandal where his wife steps forward after evidence of cheating with a PR response of how she found it incredibly hot and cant wait to peg him tonight.
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Oct 6, 2019 03:43
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This is what I mean when I say we can't evaluate Washington like a normal organization. They can't just fire an underachieving coach and move on with their lives, they have to do it in the dumbest, most drawn-out fashion possible that ends up embarrassing everyone involved. Shanahan and Zorn also had bizarre drama shitstorms when they eventually got run out of town. There was no way Gruden was escaping this one with his dignity intact.
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Oct 6, 2019 03:54
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Benne posted:This is what I mean when I say we can't evaluate Washington like a normal organization. They can't just fire an underachieving coach and move on with their lives, they have to do it in the dumbest, most drawn-out fashion possible that ends up embarrassing everyone involved. Everyone who comes to Washington in the Snyder era leaves somehow diminished. No one escapes unscathed, except perhaps for Joe Gibbs.
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Oct 6, 2019 04:06
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Yudo posted:Everyone who comes to Washington in the Snyder era leaves somehow diminished. No one escapes unscathed, except perhaps for Joe Gibbs. Marty got out ok, after turning absolute poo poo into an 8-8 season.
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Oct 6, 2019 04:08
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Yudo posted:I get that Snyder/Allen is vindictive, but he can't be this self defeating. Yes, he can. Seriously, the dude is struggling to get a new stadium, fans aren't coming out to games anymore, and no one wants to work for him - either as a coach or a player (or hell, even cheerleader!). He's driving the whole thing so far into the ground, i wouldn't be surprised if the NFL softly forced him to sell within 10 years. He's not smart or clever, he got rich by slamming grandmas' and grandpas' long distance service. He's one of those ruthless assholes who operates on the, "What are they going to do, kill me?" doctrine. He is exhibit B as to why we, as a society, should kill motherfuckers like him.
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Oct 6, 2019 06:13
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Calling it now. Jay Gruden will the OC in MIN next year.
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Oct 6, 2019 06:23
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OxySnake posted:Calling it now. Did he like Cousins? I don't think he did. I don't think he'd want to saddle himself with Cousins again. Esp. for his "prove it" OC job that's supposed to catapult him back into a being a head coach again someday.
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Oct 6, 2019 06:31
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Barudak posted:I eagerly await a gen z scandal where his wife steps forward after evidence of cheating with a PR response of how she found it incredibly hot and cant wait to peg him tonight. Miko Grimes might say that
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Oct 6, 2019 06:33
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Yudo posted:I get that Snyder/Allen is vindictive, but he can't be this self defeating. No one of merit will want to coach/GM for him if he keeps salting the earth in this way. https://washington.cbslocal.com/2017/07/07/jason-campbell-recalls-chaotic-transition-to-the-bingo-caller/ quote:Zorn received the news in a meeting with front office chief Vinny Cerrato at the stadium following Sunday’s 14-6 loss to the previously winless Kansas City Chiefs. The Redskins (2-4) are averaging 13.2 points and have failed to score a touchdown in two of their home games.
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Oct 6, 2019 06:57
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Barudak posted:I eagerly await a gen z scandal where his wife steps forward after evidence of cheating with a PR response of how she found it incredibly hot and cant wait to peg him tonight. What if...it’s not just PR...
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Oct 6, 2019 07:36
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Shanahan - last NFL job Zorn - QB coach for a few years, XFL comeback? Gibbs 2 - last NFL job Spurrier - last NFL job Schottenheimer - went on to coach San Deigo and rubbed his success in Dan Snyder's face Norv Turner - wasn't Dan's guy but is still an OC since then The job is a tomb of the Pharaoh
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Oct 6, 2019 08:03
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Gerund posted:Shanahan - last NFL job Clearly what's missing is someone from Belichick's coaching tree.
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Oct 6, 2019 13:12
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Does Gruden have a big enough boner for Establishing The Run to run the offense in Minnesota? He appears to at least have pass plays in the playbook at all, which got the previous OC fired. e: I know that's a simplification of what happened to DeFilippo but still I don't know that any remotely forward thinking OC candidate would want to land on Zimmer's Vikings. Docjowles fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Oct 6, 2019 13:38
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Gerund posted:Shanahan - last NFL job Coach money is guaranteed, right? Sign me up and Snyder can leak to the papers my hottakes on italian food, Half-Life 2, and the fact I wont say the name of the team I coach in public.
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Oct 6, 2019 14:22
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Barudak posted:Coach money is guaranteed, right? Sign me up and Snyder can leak to the papers my hottakes on italian food, Half-Life 2, and the fact I wont say the name of the team I coach in public. It's guaranteed, but probably has escape clauses for things like the coach resigning or "character issues," which is more for the coach being arrested and detained and therefore unable to show up to work than it does with, "coach done smoked a joint and maybe cheated on his wife" or "alcoholic GM is drinking again."
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Oct 6, 2019 14:59
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LabyaMynora posted:Did he like Cousins? I don't think he did. I don't think he'd want to saddle himself with Cousins again. Esp. for his "prove it" OC job that's supposed to catapult him back into a being a head coach again someday. He liked Cousins to an extent, though there was some tension: Gruden grew frustrated with Cousins' passing conservatism.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:14
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Yudo posted:He liked Cousins to an extent, though there was some tension: Gruden grew frustrated with Cousins' passing conservatism. ... So after Cousins naturally they signed Alex Smith.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:25
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Grittybeard posted:... Rumor is that Smith was 100% Bruce Allen's decision: he did not consult with Gruden at all prior to the trade. It sounds insane, but this is Washington. Gruden wanted to ride with Colt McCoy.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:30
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gently caress Adam Gase Edit: wrong thread, but honestly, fire Adam Gase.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:49
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Professor Funk posted:gently caress Adam Gase I'll allow it
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Oct 6, 2019 18:56
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Does Gase have Grave's disease or something? Hell that first photo-op over a year ago or whatever I thought it was a photoshop.
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Professor Funk posted:gently caress Adam Gase While we're at it gently caress Peyton Manning too for calling up the Jets and shilling for him.
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Oct 6, 2019 20:24
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Good bye Dan Quinn?
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Oct 6, 2019 21:14
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Phyein posted:While we're at it gently caress Peyton Manning too for calling up the Jets and shilling for him. LOL, gently caress anyone who thinks Peyton Manning's endorsement of Adam Gase means anything. It's not like Adam Gase developed Peyton Manning when he coached him. Peyton Manning was already Peyton loving Manning!
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Adun posted:Good bye Dan Quinn? I hope that Blank will fire him and the front office that thought Vic Beasley was worth 13 million this year.
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