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Kavros posted:There are currently more than six whistleblower reports that you could say are in process to approach the house intelligence committee -- Andrew Bakaj represents a few more that we already actually know of unrelated to whistleblowers #1 and #2. The things you are talking about are absolutely prescient, and why it's already happening so fast. Look into single-relator whistleblower cases. It always devolves into personal attacks and reputation smearing because a lot of these cases become about reputation instead of the facts. Whistleblowers come forward with damning evidence and airtight information, and the defendants win because the whistleblower got denied a promotion ten years ago. As soon as there is a second corroborating whistleblower that all goes out the window, especially if there is no connection between the two. Most intervened false claims cases with more than one whistleblower settle before trial because they are unwinnable for the defense.
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Ague Proof posted:'Sleepy Joe Biden and his thrown out of the Military son' is my band name. Maybe shorten it. Sleepy Joe and the Dishonorable Discharges has a nice ring to it.
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Wow, just found out that a key witness in the Guyver trial was found dead. Weird coincidence! https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...49BvS4j4oWColOM
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Mantis42 posted:Wow, just found out that a key witness in the Guyver trial was found dead. Weird coincidence! I heard he was killed with a gun fashioned from a curtain blind, gum, and a few firecrackers.
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Oct 6, 2019 17:55
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Mantis42 posted:Wow, just found out that a key witness in the Guyver trial was found dead. Weird coincidence! You really thought all that "we have to forgive Amber" was Christian charity? Hell no, the cops are coming for all of them.
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Bizarro Watt posted:I will never get over Russ Feingold losing to this guy. Twice.  Pellisworth posted:Trump absolutely is going to go on TV all the time and hold rallies after he exits office. Do you see him quietly retiring? Lol gently caress no. He probably starts Trump TV and if/when the GOP tries to distance themselves, he starts the America First party If he's not dead by then.
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Nobody tell him where those rules are written down... JehovahsWetness posted:I think this is the most official 2nd whistleblower thing I've seen yet. A fifth second whistleblower!
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Bizarro Watt posted:I will never get over Russ Feingold losing to this guy. By a larger voting margin than Clinton lost the State. This still hurts me. I'm not even from Wisconsin and this STILL makes me angry.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:02
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https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180889650333917190?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Pretty sure at this point it's a request. As in please, pleeease...
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Oct 6, 2019 18:08
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saintonan posted:You really thought all that "we have to forgive Amber" was Christian charity? Hell no, the cops are coming for all of them. The cops are the biggest gang in the United States. Hell, just look at their ink.
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eke out posted:https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1180860117866176513 Dude's complexion is looking rather.... Trumpian. Jows fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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deoju posted:And runs again in 2024. I think it's equally likely Don Jr. or Ivanka is the actual candidate and Donnie Sr. is the MAGA messiah who goes on TV and holds rallies. Trump doesn't actually want the job of President, he just wants media attention and world leaders to flatter him.
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Jows posted:Dude's complexion is looking rather.... Trumpian. The non-Fox media needs to start inviting GOP senators and congressmen on air and just rip into them for this bullshit. The problem with the left wing these days is they have no one who is going to sit down, look the GOP in the eye, and say "Have you no shame?" in the public eye. Quiet decorum and backroom investigations aren't going to move the needle. We need people on TV telling Republican officials "This is bullshit and you know it, why are you betraying our country?" The gloves need to come off.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:17
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Sir Lemming posted:Nobody tell him where those rules are written down... In his mind, the Constitution isn't a set of foundational rules for government that was written a couple of hundred years ago by intelligent but deeply flawed people, and then amended many times since then to address some of its fundamental flaws. It's the holiest relic of a mystery religion that can only be interpreted through white supremacists' feelings. This is not yet a mainstream legal view, but give the Supreme Court a few years and we'll see what happens. If the whole "we have to protect the Constitution by ending birthright citizenship" push didn't make this all obvious, well, here it is again.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:If you can’t make pharmacy work you should consider running for office. Or starting a reform org. Or blogging. You do a good job Gotta be honest in that I'm not sure I have the confidence for most of that or the relevant know-how to do them. I suppose a blog can't be too hard to manage.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:20
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I think the closest thing to a coherent narrative that the GOP is going to be able to put together is this "the president wants other countries to not be corrupt before he sends them a bunch of aid", and there are a lot of holes in that, sure, but I think it is a trap to engage with that narrative. Instead, hammer on exactly what he did, trade arms for political dirt, and don't let the GOP grab control of the story like this.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:21
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Google Butt posted:First hand account means they were in the room during the call, right? It should. IIRC the whistleblower complaint mentioned a dozen miscellaneous aids and policy grunts were present for the call, as was usual, so if we can get more of those people to speak up and speak more about other calls that have been memory-servered then we got a stew going.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:23
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Phobic Nest posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180889650333917190?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Keep trying to make this a thing, Pissbaby. I'm sure that your legions of Russian bots Twitter hasn't banned will be glad to do as you bid them.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:24
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:It should. IIRC the whistleblower complaint mentioned a dozen miscellaneous aids and policy grunts were present for the call, as was usual, so if we can get more of those people to speak up and speak more about other calls that have been memory-servered then we got a stew going. Yeah this "second whistleblower" isn't really a second whistleblower so much as he is a fact witness to the first who has hired attorneys to make sure he doesn't get illegally retaliated against for his cooperation.
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Meanwhile Don Jr is wondering what he has to do to get daddy to care about him as much as he cares about Hunter Biden.
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Pellisworth posted:Trump absolutely is going to go on TV all the time and hold rallies after he exits office. Do you see him quietly retiring? Lol gently caress no. He probably starts Trump TV and if/when the GOP tries to distance themselves, he starts the America First party. He needs to go to jail after he is POTUS or he is going to be giving away any state secrets he can remember.
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Oct 6, 2019 18:28
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Slowpoke! posted:I am the 2% who thinks Trump should tweet more. This poo poo we are seeing deserves its own section at the Smithsonian. Just blow the tweets up and hang them on the wall. Theres enough tweeta and he's just repeating the same whiny bullshit now. He needs to shut the hell up already its tiresome.
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Phobic Nest posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180889650333917190?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Donalds been getting alot of replies from some dudes talking about Restart, something to do with regime change in Iran. I haven't found much about it besides their own website, but is there anything to this, or is it just some more dumb maga bullshit?
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Phobic Nest posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180889650333917190?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet Do Not Hingde Mo-Crats?
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:Donalds been getting alot of replies from some dudes talking about Restart, something to do with regime change in Iran. I haven't found much about it besides their own website, but is there anything to this, or is it just some more dumb maga bullshit? Probably some Q poo poo.
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*Long story about progressives ramping up scrutiny of an absolutely corrupt administration, culminating in impeachment* "So, what do you call your act?" https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1180889650333917190?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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ColonelMuttonchops posted:Donalds been getting alot of replies from some dudes talking about Restart, something to do with regime change in Iran. I haven't found much about it besides their own website, but is there anything to this, or is it just some more dumb maga bullshit? They think that talking about impeaching the president invalidates the 22nd amendment. It's sovereign citizen-esque bullshit. I think it might partially be inspired by the fact that if Trump was impeached, convicted, and removed Pence would be president for the remainder of Trump's term and still legally allowed to run for 2 more terms, but in typical chud fashion they completely misunderstood it Edit: drat I thought "restart" and the Iran thing were separate things. My bad wilderthanmild fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Nothing changed with Chuck Todd. He sat there impotently as a chud sputtered nonsense conspiracy theories for two minutes.
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eke out posted:obviously him being public about this is testing the waters for other people, and trump's insane reaction is because he's terrified of other people joining romney. but this doesn't make sense, he can't be the "fall guy" as he has done literally nothing he can take the fall for. he's the guinea pig, but yeah that's an interesting idea that makes a lot of sense. romney can get out there and see how much backlash there is to the sort of "not saying we remove, yet, but this is real bad and deserves serious investigation" approach vs the "loyal fact-free apparatchik" graham approach (and graham is, essentially, acting as the guinea pig for that approach) everyone else is sticking with the "why the gently caress would i stick myself into that loving disaster, i'm going to put my phone in the freezer for two weeks" approach but eventually they'll need to do something
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Pellisworth posted:Trump absolutely is going to go on TV all the time and hold rallies after he exits office. Do you see him quietly retiring? Lol gently caress no. He probably starts Trump TV and if/when the GOP tries to distance themselves, he starts the America First party. Considering his current potential mental state, who's to say he wouldn't be completely incapable of holding a public appearance without relapsing hard? Hell, I'll bet by the time he's out of office, forced or not, he'll be too mushbrained or rattled to even try.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:By a larger voting margin than Clinton lost the State. This still hurts me. I'm not even from Wisconsin and this STILL makes me angry. HRC's strategy of trying to turn out NeverTrumpers who don't like his rudeness hurt the Democrats in the downballot because they split tickets to hold her in check. Painting Trump as an aberration and not a True Republican was a mistake that absolved all the other shitheads like Johnson. Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Charliegrs posted:Has anyone mentioned in this thread that one of main witnesses in the Amber Guyger trial was shot dead yesterday? I remember seeing this guy's testimony in the trial. At one point he broke down crying. There's no way in hell the Dallas PD aren't behind this murder, probably taking revenge for this guy helping put away one of their own. gently caress Dallas PD. gently caress the blue lives matter crowd. He was shot in the chest and the mouth. They loving murdered him. Being shot in the mouth is a message
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Can't loving wait to be told it was a suicide.
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fool_of_sound posted:Can't loving wait to be told it was a suicide. Simultaneously shot by every police brutality activist in the state.
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No no it was suicide by police, he was threatening them.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Thanks, sometimes search engines let you down. Yeah, it's nearly impossible to find on a casual search because there wasn't any hard evidence. No convictions, no formal accusations, no victims coming forward, no written statements from witnesses. But if you actually read through the account of her life, yeah, it's pretty clear what's going on between the lines. E: didn't realize how far I was behind whoops buddhist nudist fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trumps decades long formulation of his cult of personality and his reputation as THE rich successful macho tough guy businessman to millions of rubes will be very hard to replicate. Counterpoint, Trump was long known as a joke. Like for decades. He was someone who basically showed up on syndicated entertainment tv shows and a glorified Wack Packer on Howard Stern. Sometimes on pro wrestling. The only thing exceptional about him is how completely unexceptional he is. Even when he had his crappy reality show I wouldn't say he had a cult of personality. If he had a cult of personality every business he tried to do in the past 40 years wouldn't have failed. The rubes weren't running out to buy his lovely vodka or his steaks at Sharper Image. The only reason his base likes him is he's a dumb fool who says dumb fool things on national tv and twitter and they are also dumb fools. There's really nothing special about him. The people who were having their children pray to cardboard cut-outs to super-christian good ol' boy George Bush Jr are the same people who now worship the Manhattan businessman mogul. I don't know what the next grift will be to succeed, but rubes will be rubed.
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ThanosWasRight posted:I know you want this to be true for Ideological and political reasons but it is simply not. Nah, friend. "Great man theory" doesn't work as well as you think it does. Great people don't whole-cloth create ideas, they plug into movements that people are already talking about. Yes, certainly, they change a few peoples' minds and get new followers, but people are already primed to hear those messages. Trump didn't create racism in this country, or even a new generation of racists; he's only made it easier and more social acceptable in certain crowds to say the things that people believed but knew was socially unacceptable. I don't know anyone who supports Trump who wasn't already a racist rear end in a top hat to begin with. As for FDR - all of the ideas that FDR ran on were ideas brought up by Bob LaFollette when he ran as a third-party candidate eight years prior with 16.6% of the vote. Did FDR make some of those ideas more popular by supporting them? Sure. Did he create those ideas and the sudden support for them out of nowhere? Was the country 100% libertarian-conservative prior to FDR suddenly speaking about a New Deal? Not even close.
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