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Oct 6, 2019 22:29
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It's like Blazing Saddles. Modern bigots use it an example of "you couldn't make that movie these days because people are too sensitive!" while completely missing the point that the whole movie was about how racism is stupid and should be mocked.
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Oct 6, 2019 22:36
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Oct 6, 2019 22:42
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It’s also why Idiocracy gets a pass for using ‘human being’ but watching old Eddie Murphy stand ups does not. One is satire. The other is just hate and ignorance that is definitely an 80s zeitgeist. It is extremely cringey watching old Eddie Murphy, and many other comics for that matter, who are/were ‘edgy’ in a previous era.
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Oct 6, 2019 22:44
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Plus complaining about "sensitivity" and "PC Culture" is little more than a proud declaration that you, as someone in the majority, wish to bully people in the minority who had the balls to stand up say "hey could you work a little harder for our sake?" See-- Dave Chapelle's last stand-up. It's not edgy, it's the safest thing you could possibly be doing. It's why people who claim about "PC Culture"-- a complaint so trite and beaten down it was considered a throwback joke when I was a kid in the 90s--are obsessed about cherry-picking the more insane fringe of minority groups to use as representative examples for dismissal. I've run communities, I get how frustrating it can be when some randos start screeching in your ear about your improper use of trans language despite your very best efforts, who are utter garbage at giving you proper education, but it's still not that hard to come to a compromise. The only reason not to is to proudly bully those randos in front of a crowd and strut around like that makes you a tough guy. It's not edgy, it's the safest thing you could possibly be doing. See also the concept of fragility where someone who is not used to being properly critiqued or policed for their actions has an overreaction to compensate. Content:  
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Oct 6, 2019 23:18
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beanieson posted:Idk. I mean on the one hand it’s clearly a good thing for trans people to get work in film, and what better role than that of a trans person. On the other hand, a big name actor like Scarlett Johansson playing a trans person in a movie is surely going to shed light on the issues and struggles that trans people deal with daily, probably getting more attention to the film that an actor no one knows. Another problem is that hollywood likes pretty young women. Attractive people in general, but they really like pretty girls. So if they show a trans man pre-transition, they want that pre-transition actor to be able to present as a very pretty girl. Hollywood doesn't care about uggos. Actors like Chaz Bono or Buck Angel look very male and it's hard to imagine them pulling off any pre-transition scenes as a pretty girl. Hormone treatments are very effective. It's easier to stick a fake beard and a muscle suit on a woman than to feminize a man's body. Of course that all that also applies when doing stories about trans women, so it's really weird to pick cis man for the role there. It's easier for a post-transition trans woman to use prosthetics to appear male in pre-transition scenes than it is for a cis man to appear female in post-transition scenes.
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Oct 6, 2019 23:55
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They like pretty girls so much they choose them even to play ugly girls. Like Charlize Theron, who is perhaps objectively attractive.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:05
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CannonFodder posted:Sad if true. The silly parody names were half of the fun (the other half was the loving) The real master touch if that film (borrowed from a petrol station, for a sad bachelor's party twenty odd years ago) is the guy randomly dressed as Biggles who leaves his WWI aviator's helmet on for his scene. I don't know why my brain has remembered this, of all things.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:13
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dialhforhero posted:They like pretty girls so much they choose them even to play ugly girls. Yeah, that was hilarious.
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Oct 7, 2019 00:17
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dialhforhero posted:They like pretty girls so much they choose them even to play ugly girls. 
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Oct 7, 2019 00:22
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Oct 7, 2019 00:40
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Facebook Aunt posted:Of course that all that also applies when doing stories about trans women, so it's really weird to pick cis man for the role there. It's easier for a post-transition trans woman to use prosthetics to appear male in pre-transition scenes than it is for a cis man to appear female in post-transition scenes. Unrelated: 
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Oct 7, 2019 00:45
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This is not the PYF concern troll thread so let's post funny pictures instead of pretending to be confused about "all these PC rules" and "if it was ok for RDJ to wear blackface" in the midst of people explaining why Scarlet Johansson was a dick for demanding to play minority characters.
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Oct 7, 2019 01:42
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Hirayuki posted:Orange is the New Black cast Laverne Cox's identical twin brother to play her in a pre-transition flashback. The stars really aligned for that one. I gave up on that show after a couple seasons and thus missed it, but that was an awesome thing to see after some googling! 
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Oct 7, 2019 01:47
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bike tory posted:This is not the PYF concern troll thread so let's post funny pictures instead of pretending to be confused about "all these PC rules" and "if it was ok for RDJ to wear blackface" in the midst of people explaining why Scarlet Johansson was a dick for demanding to play minority characters. Heed this goon.
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Oct 7, 2019 02:45
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Oct 7, 2019 03:02
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Oct 7, 2019 03:02
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My favorite Scarlett Johansson moment was when she got dumped by a humanitarian charity because she couldn't understand why they didn't want her being the spokesperson for an Israeli company that was building factories in Palestine.
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Oct 7, 2019 03:33
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Oct 7, 2019 03:33
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I remember back when the most tone deaf thing Scarlett Johansson had done was release an album of Tom Waits covers.
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Oct 7, 2019 04:16
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I'm buying one of those cards for the Birthday Oink in my life
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Oct 7, 2019 04:24
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StandardFireworks posted:I remember back when the most tone deaf thing Scarlett Johansson had done was release an album of Tom Waits covers. Ya I still think that’s the worst thing she’s done.
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Oct 7, 2019 05:17
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StandardFireworks posted:I remember back when the most tone deaf thing Scarlett Johansson had done was release an album of Tom Waits covers. I didn't know about this, and I gotta tell you as a big Tom Waits fan I made it about fifteen seconds into I Don't Wanna Grow Up before I killed it. I didn't even make it to the singing. Good work ScarJo. https://i.imgur.com/YSyf7yf.mp4
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Oct 7, 2019 05:50
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Tom Waits is phonier than ScarJo, I’m just waiting for him to get cancelled.
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Oct 7, 2019 06:04
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Snowy posted:Tom Waits is phonier than ScarJo, I’m just waiting for him to get cancelled. He's not actually sung a word in his life. All his records and live performances he just grumbles into the mic like the drunk madman he is. Some guy his agent hired writes the lyrics after the fact. Prove me wrong 
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Oct 7, 2019 06:33
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Facebook Aunt posted:Another problem is that hollywood likes pretty young women. Attractive people in general, but they really like pretty girls. So if they show a trans man pre-transition, they want that pre-transition actor to be able to present as a very pretty girl. Hollywood doesn't care about uggos. Isn't buck angel a pornstar
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Oct 7, 2019 06:43
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Zzulu posted:Isn't buck angel a pornstar Among other things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Angel
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Oct 7, 2019 06:45
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Facebook Aunt posted:Another problem is that hollywood likes pretty young women. Attractive people in general, but they really like pretty girls. So if they show a trans man pre-transition, they want that pre-transition actor to be able to present as a very pretty girl. Hollywood doesn't care about uggos. Euphoria on HBO has a really good story line about growing up and dealing with it.
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Oct 7, 2019 06:57
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Jerry Cotton posted:He's not actually sung a word in his life. All his records and live performances he just grumbles into the mic like the drunk madman he is. Some guy his agent hired writes the lyrics after the fact. Worse, he’s not a jack swilling chain smoking maniac at all. Happily married boring guy.
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Oct 7, 2019 07:13
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the only Tom Waits thing I've ever engaged with is this mash-up someone made of one of his songs with Cookie Monster and honestly it seems like anything else would be a step down
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Oct 7, 2019 07:17
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Worse, he’s not a jack swilling chain smoking maniac at all. Happily married boring guy. No that's Bigger Tom (commonly abbreviated as BT or BgT).
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Oct 7, 2019 07:18
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morallyobjected posted:the only Tom Waits thing I've ever engaged with is this mash-up someone made of one of his songs with Cookie Monster and honestly it seems like anything else would be a step down You know that song "Downtown Train" that Rod Stewart had a big fat flabby soft rock hit with, back in the tail end of the 80s That's a Tom Waits song. He sang that. He wrote it. There's a music video. Imagine him gurgling "Downtown" loving "Train".
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Oct 7, 2019 07:33
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and the Rod Stewart cover is much, much better, since he sings like a human being.
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Oct 7, 2019 09:09
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Jerry Cotton posted:He's not actually sung a word in his life. All his records and live performances he just grumbles into the mic like the drunk madman he is. Some guy his agent hired writes the lyrics after the fact. BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Worse, he’s not a jack swilling chain smoking maniac at all. Happily married boring guy. Since the 80's all his lyrics have been co-credited to his wife Kathleen Brennan, so you can both be right! (I legitimately think he has a beautiful voice, but I understand that to most people listening to him is the musical equivalent of having misophonia.)
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Oct 7, 2019 11:12
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Going Out West is a good song
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Oct 7, 2019 11:12
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I don't know much about waits but what's he building is one of my favorite weird song experiments, that dares ask what everybody has been thinking: what is he building in there?
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Oct 7, 2019 11:17
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Ayatollah Hermione posted:guess i'll be sleeping with the fishes. specifically, rainbow trout. .... leatherjacket. 
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Oct 7, 2019 11:31
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Son of Rodney posted:I don't know much about waits but what's he building is one of my favorite weird song experiments, that dares ask what everybody has been thinking: what is he building in there? we have a right to know
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Oct 7, 2019 11:32
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dialhforhero posted:Going Out West is a good song Hell yes it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CtbO6wxfpQ Son of Rodney posted:I don't know much about waits but what's he building is one of my favorite weird song experiments, that dares ask what everybody has been thinking: what is he building in there? I don't know. But he used to have a consulting business. I forget in which country.
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Oct 7, 2019 12:26
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Son of Rodney posted:I don't know much about waits but what's he building is one of my favorite weird song experiments, that dares ask what everybody has been thinking: what is he building in there?
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