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What does that mean? If you mean third partiers are going to toss presidential votes in the trash, ok, free country but that’s not useful. If you mean guess they’ll vote Trump lmao, gently caress that line of argument. If you mean primary centrist Dems, vote in leftists at local/state levels and push the national party left, by all means yes.
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Non-winning electoral strategies: blaming the very loving people you've spent decades selling out because it helped your 401k
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I do not know what you are arguing. Legitimately, I’m not loving with you or trolling, but your point of view has not been explained well.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The last time the country decided to trust the Democratic party they gave them a generational majority which was promptly wasted on protecting the banks and passing a 1990s GOP healthcare plan so maybe people are well justified in not buying into the lesser of two evils bullshit any longer So less evil happened?
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And yes, both parties have been actively working on loving the poor since at least '92 (the Republicans well prior to that). It's just a matter of how openly racist each party is and the pace and intensity of the poor loving, and "if you elect us, you will not be as hosed as if you picked the other guys, but we're still gonna gently caress you some, and we're gonna tell you it's your fault" is a pretty tough sell. It still works sometimes, but most of the poor just don't vote. All that said, the power base of the republican party, money and population wise, is definitely white suburbs. Sure, a lot of rural areas vote republican and that matters due to how our system weights geography heavily, but that's not where influence within the party is wielded.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:The last time the country decided to trust the Democratic party they gave them a generational majority which was promptly wasted on protecting the banks and passing a 1990s GOP healthcare plan so maybe people are well justified in not buying into the lesser of two evils bullshit any longer The democratic party never had a real majority. The only reason they had a majority was because of people who are all republicans today. The PPACA had its flaws, but in its original form much of the issues that exist today would not because there was a public option, mandatory medicaid expansion, and funding to pay for everything. It has been specifically crippled by opponents to make it horrible, and even still the ACA has saved lives. The non-prosecution of wall street is bullshit, I agree, but 2008-2010 was not a real majority. The democratic party didn't have 60 votes in the senate, and if you took out the bluedogs they didn't even have a working majority.
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Rural voters also already do have extraordinarily great amounts of power in the federal government by virtue of the way the senate works.
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Welp. You guys got ebb screaming into the void now.
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Stravag posted:Welp. You guys got ebb screaming into the void now. He's always doing that, it's not new
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LingcodKilla posted:If so why poor? Because most of them are the worker bees. "If so" makes it sound like you disagree. Edit: Joker is real good y'all Godholio fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Oct 6, 2019 |
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Smiling Jack posted:I think I'm gonna log off the internet again for a while Please loving do.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Please loving do. C'mon shim, no need to be impolite. We're all friends here. Even if I don't like his opinions as a general rule.
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Coasterphreak posted:C'mon shim, no need to be impolite. We're all friends here. He may be a cop, but at least he feels bad about it
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Coasterphreak posted:C'mon shim, no need to be impolite. We're all friends here. I’m not even being mean, that guy needs to disconnect. He’s crack ping’d himself pretty drat good. He needs a break from this crap. Not even trying to be lovely, just being real.
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EBB posted:aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i've got you https://twitter.com/infinite_scream?lang=en
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You might think with all this political garbage - what's in this poo poo for Rudy? Obviously, it's something, since he's working for the President for free. https://twitter.com/AP/status/1180989397019348993 This is the Perry angle too.
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Had a weird florida moment recently. Guy was riding a bicycle ahead of me, pulls a handgun out from under his bike seat, fiddles with it (maybe a press check but hard to tell), puts it back and keeps riding. This was a one speed with a wide seat so unless looking for it like I was, whatever holster or whatever he had stuck to the bottom of the seat was pretty low key to casual observance but would be really obvious for a cop looking for it. I didn’t know off hand if open carry was legal in Florida but after looking it up later, apparently not.
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Stravag posted:https://www.ajc.com/news/national/woman-managed-get-past-security-and-onto-delta-flight/3jd1HMi3rz9WiTVgyD7MeL/ How much does TSA cost to run each year?
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Anything over 0 duetschmarks and we're overpaying Edit: a quick search gave 7.78 billion for 2020 Stravag fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Oct 7, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1180955730557452289?s=21 Americans typically go easy on presidents post-tenure but it’s fuckin’ wild that people are liking W more and more instead of the opposite.
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I will forever loving hate George W. Bush, but even with all his fuckery he is/was a million times the man that Trump is, and much better as a president. How loving awful do you have to be to get me to like W over you? Donald loving Trump that’s how awful.
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1180955730557452289?s=21 He's vocally anti-trump and generally charismatic. Not a hard leap
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Also: Rip Taylor died today.
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mlmp08 posted:https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1180955730557452289?s=21 It's because he wasn't really the problem, he was a dumbass bastard but not the prime mover. That was Rumsfeld and Cheney. Dick Cheney is a man that's so evil, despite him being in power 20 years ago I still can't understand what in the name of hell he wanted to do.
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Hexyflexy posted:It's because he wasn't really the problem, he was a dumbass bastard but not the prime mover. That was Rumsfeld and Cheney. Dick Cheney is a man that's so evil, despite him being in power 20 years ago I still can't understand what in the name of hell he wanted to do. What a chickenshit take on the presidency and the power of a president or candidate to choose those around them.
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mlmp08 posted:What a chickenshit take on the presidency and the power of a president or candidate to choose those around them. I didn't say I was a fan of the bastard e: I didn't mean what I think you felt, GWB was an awful president, probably the worst one over my lifetime, not just a bit bad, there's a whole load of my friends who had to go into the military because they couldn't afford to live otherwise and got the living gently caress kicked out of them. He wasn't the worst bit of that government though, the people around him were worse. ee: I'll never forgive him for that. Hexyflexy fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Oct 7, 2019 |
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George W. Bush differs from Trump in that the former had a moral compass that guided his decision making and presidency. You could certainly disagree with the directions it pointed him and the decisions he made, but at least you had a general idea of what motivated him. You certainly can’t say that for Trump, and it’s even odds whether it’s narcissism, racism, aspiring authoritarianism, greed or the brain worms feasting.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:George W. Bush differs from Trump in that the former had a moral compass that guided his decision making and presidency. You could certainly disagree with the directions it pointed him and the decisions he made, but at least you had a general idea of what motivated him. You certainly can’t say that for Trump, and it’s even odds whether it’s narcissism, racism, aspiring authoritarianism, greed or the brain worms feasting. I mean, GWB literally thought God had chosen him to be president. Moral compass aside, anybody who believes that is a few degrees from normal.
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Hexyflexy posted:It's because he wasn't really the problem, he was a dumbass bastard but not the prime mover. That was Rumsfeld and Cheney. Dick Cheney is a man that's so evil, despite him being in power 20 years ago I still can't understand what in the name of hell he wanted to do. Even if it was just out of political expediency, don't forget that Bush was vocally anti gay rights, campaigned on a constitutional ban on gay marriage, etc. That seems awkward considering Ellen's activism stretching back to that era.
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Flikken posted:He's vocally anti-trump and generally charismatic. Not a hard leap Sure, nothing he says will persuade Trump's fanatics, but it would still be wildly more significant than Romney reiterating his deep concern. I don't care that it's taboo for former presidents to interfere in the affairs of the sitting president--the current circumstances are uniquely extenuating.
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I want Jimmy to mission impossible his way into the white house and get the data that will surely sink donny once and for all
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Also: Rip Taylor died today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBlirvhuMLE A shame, but dude had a good run.
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