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SchrodingersCat posted:Congress isn't going to let Trump effectively murder 2 million people, right? It's the same idea that's been going on for three years now. Who's going to stop him?
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SchrodingersCat posted:Congress isn't going to let Trump effectively murder 2 million people, right? Since the 1950s Congress has pretty much given all war powers and military command to the Executive because they were too scared to do a politics themselves, so they probably will let him do this. Also, by the time the Senate voted against this withdrawal (and even if it did), those protective US troops will have long departed and the Turks will have done their Thing before the US is back. If it ever is.
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SchrodingersCat posted:Congress isn't going to let Trump effectively murder 2 million people, right? We already have death camps within our own borders. What makes you think Congress would do anything about this either?
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Oct 7, 2019 14:03
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https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1181191724133163008 The tax returns feel so quaint at this point.
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SchrodingersCat posted:I mean, Harding and Coolidge were terrible and their presidencies are just footnotes in the history books. people forget but harding and coolidge and hoover and wilson and partly FDR all presided over the us invading and controlling haiti for 20 years quote:On July 28, 1915, American President Woodrow Wilson ordered 330 U.S. Marines to occupy Port-au-Prince. Secretary of the Navy instructed the invasion commander, Admiral William Deville Bundy, to "protect American and foreign" interests. Wilson also wanted to rewrite the Haitian constitution, which banned foreign ownership of land, and replace it with one that guaranteed American financial control. To avoid public criticism, Wilson claimed the occupation was a mission to "re-establish peace and order ... [and] has nothing to do with any diplomatic negotiations of the past or the future," as disclosed by Rear Admiral Caperton. Only one Haitian soldier, Pierre Sully, tried to resist the invasion, and he was shot dead by the Marines
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Oct 7, 2019 14:03
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Oct 7, 2019 14:04
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NYTimes Trump Ordered to Turn Over 8 Years of Tax Returns to the Manhattan D.A. quote:A judge rejected the president’s argument that he was immune from criminal investigations. I cannot wait for the inevitable Twitter hissy-fits. Edit: drat, I'm slow.
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VitalSigns posted:
People make this comparison all the time, and it frankly confuses me. I’d much rather be stuck in Libya than Syria today. It is by no means a success story, but when people compared Libya’s civil wars to the carnal house that Syria has been - well, its different. Go look at the numbers of dead and displaced, even when adjusted for population, Syria has been much worse. To be clear, I am a socialist and I don’t think it makes me imperialistic to be fine with 1000 soldiers doing nothing acting as the trip wire preventing an ethnic cleansing.
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eke out posted:marco is focused on things that matter this morning, like blaming NBA players for what their executives are making them do I really loving hate Marco Rubio. he needs to, and I can't stress this enough, go gently caress himself for eternity
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It's going to be a day.
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Koalas March posted:I really loving hate Marco Rubio. he needs to, and I can't stress this enough, go gently caress himself for eternity Ted Cruz is tweeting this bullshit too. Funny how these GOP asshats didn’t give a poo poo about Hong Kong until it gave them a reason to criticize the NBA 
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Oct 7, 2019 14:07
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ewiley posted:I can't imagine that this move in Syria is even a distraction from impeachment more than just a snap decision while talking to Erdogan, considering how off-putting this is to his staunchest allies in the Senate. While I fully support Trump getting hosed-over for this, it sucks that it comes at the cost of Kurdish lives. I doubt we will pull out. It sounds like trump is just saying poo poo again and the pentagon and others didn’t know poo poo. The house and the senate will force defense of Kurds and sdf on him.
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Koalas March posted:I really loving hate Marco Rubio. he needs to, and I can't stress this enough, go gently caress himself for eternity oh no I'm sure Marco really cares about the current Hong Kong situation, that's why he's moved to take such solid steps beyond just crying and bitching on twitter like
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Graham is so drat pathetic it’s not even funny dear lord
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Calaveron posted:It's going to be a day. It feels that way
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Spiffster posted:Graham is so drat pathetic it’s not even funny dear lord Hey, licking poo poo off boots is an honorable position.
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Arist posted:https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1181191724133163008 So what happens when he does nothing? Can he appeal to the supreme court so they can get him off the hook?
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Does this mean the end of Rojava?
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Arist posted:https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1181191724133163008 This is gonna be a hell of a day.
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Meatball posted:So what happens when he does nothing? Can he appeal to the supreme court so they can get him off the hook? I imagine it will involve the Democratic party asking the Republicans to use lube this time before they get bent over the table.
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ThanosWasRight posted:Does this mean the end of Rojava? Rojava will likely exist Just, ya know, without the current demographic
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I can’t wait for the gop to still do absolutely nothing and/or twist themselves into believing it’s good and just. Ghouls, all of them.
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I'm tapping out for a while. I woke up this morning to: Genocide in Syria Tax Return BS Another Whistleblower Rudy grifting hard(er) It's only 9:30, I'm not gonna survive the day without some self-care.
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Pollyanna posted:I can’t wait for the gop to still do absolutely nothing and/or twist themselves into believing it’s good and just. Ghouls, all of them. we have obtained a firm handshake and wink from the Turkish government promising they won't slaughter 2,000,000 people, so what are the libs crying about???
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Party Plane Jones posted:people forget but harding and coolidge and hoover and wilson and partly FDR all presided over the us invading and controlling haiti for 20 years The Americans even reinstated forced labor because of course we did. There is a great line from Edwidge Danticat's memoir of her uncle and father, Brother, I'm Dying. Her father says it after her uncle dies in ICE custody and is buried in America: "If our country were ever allowed to be a country like any other none of us would live or die here."
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also remember a ton of Kurdish militias are communists, like literal communists, so I genuinely expect the GOP to stop giving a poo poo about them as soon as someone calls the YPG a communist plot against heroic Turks or whatever
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Meatball posted:So what happens when he does nothing? Can he appeal to the supreme court so they can get him off the hook? he's already appealing to the second circuit. the argument that "the president, his business, and anyone who has ever worked with him is completely immune from all criminal law including investigative functions of a grand jury" is going to fail just as spectacularly at those levels as it did at this one "just doing nothing" is not actually an option, by the way, when faced with grand jury subpoenas from a prosecutor's office.
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i am harry posted:"Ask"? gently caress you. Can the Senate do more than this? I'm not being snarky, I'm asking a legitimate question. This isn't a declaration of war, so doesn't this fall under the president's authority to direct military operations? I would think that the most the Senate can do is more strongly word that letter so it's a demand rather an request, but it doesn't seem like they'd have power to back that up with anything other than threatening removal.
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Paradoxish posted:Can the Senate do more than this? I imagine Mitch McConnell could stroll into Trump's office and tell him they are going to fast track an impeachment trial and have him out by Friday unless Trump walks this back, but Mitch McConnell has no soul.
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This Syria thing is to distract everybody from the impeachment proceedings, isn't it?
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eke out posted:he's already appealing to the second circuit. the argument that "the president, his business, and anyone who has ever worked with him is completely immune from all criminal law including investigative functions of a grand jury" is going to fail just as spectacularly at those levels as it did at this one "I've divested myself of all Trump properties to guard myself from conflicts of interest and bribes" Alright we're investigating that business "No you can't do that because I own it and I'm the president"
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Arist posted:https://twitter.com/cliffordlevy/status/1181191724133163008 Trump:  Everyone: ... so now what? Unless they actually do something about it and enforce it, he will do whatever he drat well pleases Edit: tax time https://twitter.com/bodegacats_/status/1179909112508882944?s=21 Edit 2: huh it loaded weird on my phone making it look like I was a new page (no options for previous posts)... Paid it forward on the tax then Spiffster fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Oct 7, 2019 |
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yea the senate can exert their own political power, threaten to hold up a bill or stop covering for him or something, but this is unfortunately a Commander in Chief choice and Mitch is a huge coward so all that'll happen will be they likely pass a generic 'pls stop the genocide' resolution and Trump goes 'nah'
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CornHolio posted:This Syria thing is to distract everybody from the impeachment proceedings, isn't it? He tweeted it with no notice to the Pentagon and no likely conference with anyone outside his very tiny circle so I'd wager that the decision to do this is somehow uniquely self serving and nothing else. Like, it's more likely that Erdogan promised trump a real good rate on a lease extension for his lovely hotel in Turkey in exchange for this then it is that he's cooked up some sort of elaborate plan to distract us from his never-ending crime spree.
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Meatball posted:So what happens when he does nothing? Can he appeal to the supreme court so they can get him off the hook? Trump's lawyer already said they would react to a lack of a ruling by 9 am today as a denial and they would appeal, so they're going to appeal. I just hope and pray that it's shot down just as quickly at every step of the way. poo poo like this makes me wonder about what to do if the DOJ, conveniently enough, refuses to enforce a SCOTUS ruling when they hopefully uphold the decision and tell Trump to hand over his tax returns. If Trump just ignores them, well, that just further shits all over the checks-and-balances of our federal government, and something tells me giving the US federal courts their own law enforcement branch that answers only to them that they can call in when poo poo hits the fan would both create even more problems and be extraordinarily hard to implement. Or maybe that accounting firm throws up their hands and goes "gently caress this, we're done with this shitshow" and releases them. Just thinking out loud here.
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