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Brave New World posted:America has betrayed and abandoned the Kurds*. Those that remain alive will remember this. *Again. Christ, what a lovely snipe. Here, have a picture of Masha and Bear, my kittens, being v sleepy on my office chair. 
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Trump hasn’t made a tweet in 5 hours now since his Great and unmatched Wisdom tweet. Wonder what he’s been up to.
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Rinkles posted:Idk, this is a repeat of 2018, except without the last minute reversal (which happened because of the universal backlash). He must’ve known this would be a big deal. He didn't even remember that Baron was his child
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump hasn’t made a tweet in 5 hours now since his Great and unmatched Wisdom tweet. Wonder what he’s been up to. He's in time-out.
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The Glumslinger posted:I mean, I dont think he expected it to cause a crisis, he probably thought everyone would be happy that he pulled out the US soldiers. He doesn't care enough to read the reports or listen to advice about why it end up badly, I mean he is the great and wise Trump, so if his advisors say something he disagrees with, then they're just dumb and confused. He doesn't seem to have the capability to accept that the world is more complicated than the tiny portion of it he cares enough to comprehend Listen to the way he tries to justify it too, he's all like "Yeah we're gonna pull out, this will mean we get to SAVE MONEY because now Turkey has to deal with the ISIS fighters that we otherwise had to house OURSELVES for $$$$!!!" He thinks everyone will congratulate him for being Responsible With Money. Because that's all this is to him, something the US is doing that he doesn't see any reason for the US to do (because nobody can explain it to him in a way that sticks). So he does the only thing he knows how to do, which is stop writing checks
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Sir Lemming posted:This has really been a rollercoaster. For most of the day it's been the usual bemusement at this idiot at the controls, and then excitement at the fact that he's getting flak from literally everybody this time around. The Great Mattering, as it were. It's already too late. Thousands of Kurds will die, possibly hundreds of thousands. A stalwart regional US ally and a people and culture that were actually trying to promote real progressive change in the Middle East wiped out and subjected to horror Hundreds to thousands will die in Hong Kong when the Chinese government decides to completely crack down, when no attempt by the US is made to force a peaceful resolution This President is the Mad King, and before this is over he will attempt to rule over the ashes TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 7, 2019 |
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Oct 7, 2019 21:33
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Velocity Raptor posted:He's in time-out.  Barracks coup?
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Oct 7, 2019 21:34
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Sir Lemming posted:This has really been a rollercoaster. For most of the day it's been the usual bemusement at this idiot at the controls, and then excitement at the fact that he's getting flak from literally everybody this time around. The Great Mattering, as it were. Wait until he actually launches nukes.
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Seriously, this is the level of discourse and analysis Trump is capable of https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/1181306217366507520
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I would bet an insane amount of money that in the transcript of the erdogan call, erdogan will say to trump 'in your great and unmatched wisdom'Flip Yr Wig posted:
tbh if the military just picked him up today and told congress and pence to find a replacement, they probably could get away with it within the next 12 hours.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump hasn’t made a tweet in 5 hours now since his Great and unmatched Wisdom tweet. Wonder what he’s been up to. I assume hes been locked in a room with 50 people who are trying every loving trick they can think of to get him to stop this dumbassery with a formal order before it's irreversible and/or preventing a more formal order than hes already given that will force the last few strings keeping erdogans dogs on their leashes to give up their efforts to hold this thing back.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:35
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ThanosWasRight posted:Wait until he actually launches nukes. I wish I could believe that this was impossible.
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TulliusCicero posted:It's already too late. Thousands of Kurds will die, possibly hundreds of thousands. A stalwart regional US ally and a people and culture that were actually trying to promote real progressive change in the Middle East wiped out and subjected to horror take solace in the knowledge they were absolutely going to be killed no matter who the president was, because their continued existence has grown inconvenient to US foreign policy, and we have precisely one playbook for this kind of thing. at least this time we're not actively handing Saddam the chemical weapons to gas them with. progress is being made.
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I don't know what is the better option right now. That they convince him to reverse. Or that he continues. Reversing it...will stop a potential genocide and protect Rojava and the Kurds who have always been a very important ally and are a very cool people group overall. But it will also mend fences with all his bootlickers, the GOP and the rest of the public. Not reversing it will further the rift that is now opening between him and the GOP and lead him further towards potential removal. It comes with a heavy price tag of thousands of lives. But the question is if he is removed or stopped will that prevent some other event that could have caused more deaths had he not been stopped sooner? I guess I'm going to err on the side of safety and hope the order is reversed.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:It's me. I'm the guy who types out legal letters in comic sans. The full picture is even better https://mobile.twitter.com/KagroX/status/1181227427969806338
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Oct 7, 2019 21:40
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I feel like Trump using nukes would be us waking up to find he nuked the North Pole to fight climate change.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:40
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ThanosWasRight posted:I don't know what is the better option right now. That they convince him to reverse. Or that he continues. Reverse it full stop
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:take solace in the knowledge they were absolutely going to be killed no matter who the president was, because their continued existence has grown inconvenient to US foreign policy, and we have precisely one playbook for this kind of thing. Well, the thing here is that they were still convenient to US foreign policy, hence literally every member of the establishment screaming that this is a bad idea. This isn't even a cynical betrayal for the sake of capital; it's an impulse decision.
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cool poo poo. its gonna get so much worse.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:41
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Rabble posted:I wish I could believe that this was impossible. There's a greater-than-zero chance that the JCS, STRATCOM commanders, etc, have a secret understanding that they will not launch a first strike, particularly if a President is clearly donkey-brained.
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Majorian posted:There's a greater-than-zero chance that the JCS, STRATCOM commanders, etc, have a secret understanding that they will not launch a first strike, particularly if a President is clearly donkey-brained. That’s rumored to have been the case with late stage Nixon.
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Baby is taking his toys and going home.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:43
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Trump only siding with himself has always been his MO
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Reverse it full stop Duh, this is not even a question, all the idiot Rs won't turn on him even if he does this, and even if they did trading a genocide for that outcome is beyond disgusting to even contemplate.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump hasn’t made a tweet in 5 hours now since his Great and unmatched Wisdom tweet. Wonder what he’s been up to. Fuming~
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https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1181306171417939970 Call the cyber police
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Sanguinia posted:Duh, this is not even a question, all the idiot Rs won't turn on him even if he does this, and even if they did trading a genocide for that outcome is beyond disgusting to even contemplate. ehh. not fully. Some Rs will turn on him because of this. not all because ghouls but a bunch. also the pentagon/IC/etc/probably spec ops.
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Tim Whatley posted:https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1181306171417939970 watchdogs is real and my friend.
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ThanosWasRight posted:I don't know what is the better option right now. That they convince him to reverse. Or that he continues. I don't loving care if this hurts him. Thousands will die if we don't abruptly shut this down. Let the demented lunatic take his loving pats on the back for changing his mind
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Oct 7, 2019 21:47
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cool, he is actually doing it. stupid fucker.
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Oct 7, 2019 21:47
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He unironically believes that people just wipe each other out sometimes, that's just that natural order, whaddayagonnado
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Tim Whatley posted:https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1181306171417939970 Yeah, okay, we're in a movie now. Who can get us out of the Last Action Hero universe?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:The full picture is even better Does the House ever plan on doing anything to start compelling these people to show up or hand things over
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ThanosWasRight posted:You know why you were all distracted by Trumps idiocy in Syria the House subpoenad a bunch of government entities. Good thing you came in here to poo poo on people for caring for the lives of others without even bothering to post links to the news you think is so important.
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I hate this man. I guarantee he’s quoting Erdogan when he says “natural enemy”.
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Flip Yr Wig posted:Well, the thing here is that they were still convenient to US foreign policy, hence literally every member of the establishment screaming that this is a bad idea. This isn't even a cynical betrayal for the sake of capital; it's an impulse decision. the choice between "potentially antagonize our good friend turkey" and "guarantee the deaths of the poor dumb fuckers who trusted us" is not a complex one. this was going to happen eventually. it didn't have to happen this fast, this chaotic, or this incompetently, but it was going to happen, barring a COMPLETE change in conditions on the ground in Syria. this is the bill coming due a little ahead of schedule, but sooner or later the Kurds were going to pay the price for thinking we'd reward our friends.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump hasn’t made a tweet in 5 hours now since his Great and unmatched Wisdom tweet. Wonder what he’s been up to. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181249853801877508
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That’s rumored to have been the case with late stage Nixon. Indeed, which is a comforting thought. It would obviously be even more comforting (and better for geopolitics) if the U.S. formally adopted a "no first use" policy, or for it to require Congressional approval, but welp, that's not the world we live in right now, unfortunately.
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