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Hallownest is ruined because everyone is becoming Radiance zombies. The king tried to maintain order by sealing the Radiance away with the HK and the three dreamers, but it didn’t really work (witness the Radiance zombies everywhere) so the king gave up and hid himself and his palace in the dream instead, where he apparently died, insofar as things like him can. “Old” is not a term we can use very well because the game never gives any specifics at all as to time frame. There were things on the site of Hallownest before Hallownest, and some creatures still alive can remember Hallownest before the Radiance started to mess it up, but how long ago that was in absolute terms we have no idea.
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They're bugs, it was probably like a month ago.
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It was long ago enough for things to fall into ruin. Quirrel is also old enough to have been present when the Dreamers sealed away the original Hollow Knight.
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I dunno why but I always got the sense that the dreamers and temple seal happened like, 30 years ago or something, like it wasn't super recent but not in Olden Times either. I am not really sure where I got that sense from though.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:20
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30 bug years
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Hollow Knight is 1,000s of years old, it just looks 12
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I got the sense of time from how many other siblings Nugget has when you go to Birthplace, like thousands of others have spawned and basically died immediately.
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Sep 16, 2019 22:44
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bugs, those notoriously slow-to-reproduce creatures
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i just want silksong already so i can be the insanely cool character, hornet
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A stag beetle lives for around six years, so the Last Stag who was around at Hallownest's height can't be older than that, if all this is meant to represent real biology. Of course the human conception of years is pretty much meaningless unless seasons are involved in the setting at all.
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Johnny Joestar posted:i just want silksong already so i can be the insanely cool character, hornet hell,
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Johnny Joestar posted:i just want silksong already so i can be the insanely cool character, hornet same.
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*being dragged away from this conversation by the orderlies* THE FLOW OF TIME IS CONVOLOUTED, CONVOLUTED!!!
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Exactly, the Mantis Lords boss battle makes me feel like I’m dancing on a razor’s edge for an eternity but it’s like a 90 second fight.
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There's maybe some weird stuff going on with regards to chronology? For example, when you first encounter Salubra, she saysSalubra posted:Did the townsfolk out there tell you to come and visit me? Mmm, yes! This is a lovely little village isn't it? Warm and intimate and full of life. Presumably she's talking about either the buildings just outside her shop, or Dirtmouth, but either way both seem to have been mostly abandoned for a long time. Yet Salubra has no idea.
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fractalairduct posted:There's maybe some weird stuff going on with regards to chronology? For example, when you first encounter Salubra, she says Can Salubra even fit out her door
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Finally beat the (base game's) "true" final boss. drat, what a fight, and what a game! 106% completion, 51 hours, and I'm sure I'll be very tempted to go back and complete all the expansion content after I take a break from the game.
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skasion posted:Can Salubra even fit out her door she looks squishy
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After being stuck here for over a week I have officially decided that Sly is literally impossible to defeat. At least I got that fancy "100%" achievement.
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VictualSquid posted:After being stuck here for over a week I have officially decided that Sly is literally impossible to defeat. I beat him with Mark of Pride+Unbreakable Strength+Stalwart Shell and just damage raced him.
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I've decided to try to do a steel soul run. If I manage to finish, I might consider trying to get to 100% completion on the same file for that achievement. Do you all have any recommendations for which 12% to skip? Do pantheon deaths count as actual deaths as far as a steel soul run is concerned? They don't leave a spirit, so I kind of assume not, but I'd rather confirm that.
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VictualSquid posted:After being stuck here for over a week I have officially decided that Sly is literally impossible to defeat. The game's best boss fight is irritatingly locked behond pantheon 3.
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No Wave posted:that boss is really hard. Theres not a lot of advice for them, just learn to bounce off of them with jump -> slashing downwards if you're not already. But yeah they're tough. Also there's a hidden room before the fight that will let you drop a chandelier on one of them pre-fight so that you fight one fewer, I would recommend taking advantage of that
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skasion posted:Hallownest is ruined because everyone is becoming Radiance zombies. The king tried to maintain order by sealing the Radiance away with the HK and the three dreamers, but it didn’t really work (witness the Radiance zombies everywhere) so the king gave up and hid himself and his palace in the dream instead, where he apparently died, insofar as things like him can. We dont know how old hornet is but she was from before the sealing too and seems rather youngish
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Capri Sun Tzu posted:I feel like it's one or two generations, so maybe around a century? I dont think its on the order of thousands of years or anything. How long are bug generations though? Some real bugs can live for decades but others live and die in a matter of weeks or days. The game (wisely imo) ignores the whole question. It was a while ago, that’s all we really get.
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Plus bugs go through different life stages
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egg - larva - pupa - GREAT AND TERRIBLE GOD-KING OF SOUL DESTRUCTION
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Zack Ater posted:I've decided to try to do a steel soul run. If I manage to finish, I might consider trying to get to 100% completion on the same file for that achievement. Do you all have any recommendations for which 12% to skip? Do pantheon deaths count as actual deaths as far as a steel soul run is concerned? They don't leave a spirit, so I kind of assume not, but I'd rather confirm that. Uh, pantheon deaths definitely leave a spirit, it is always in the small room to the left of the bench instead of in the arena. Presumably to make it easier to get after you die, but it seems to me like a lot of people miss this. So yeah, those deaths would count. Definitely do as many dream bosses and godhome stuff you are capable of, since dying to those don't actually count as deaths but each one will give you a %, so you can throw yourselves at those as many times as needed.
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Logan 5 posted:Uh, pantheon deaths definitely leave a spirit, it is always in the small room to the left of the bench instead of in the arena. Presumably to make it easier to get after you die, but it seems to me like a lot of people miss this. So yeah, those deaths would count.
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Logan 5 posted:Uh, pantheon deaths definitely leave a spirit, it is always in the small room to the left of the bench instead of in the arena. Presumably to make it easier to get after you die, but it seems to me like a lot of people miss this. So yeah, those deaths would count. Pantheon stuff = Godhome.
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The Arena fights counting for deaths is why you should be very thankful the DLC added extra % points so you can get the 100% Steel Soul achievement without surviving the Trial of Fools.
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Darox posted:The Arena fights counting for deaths is why you should be very thankful the DLC added extra % points so you can get the 100% Steel Soul achievement without surviving the Trial of Fools. If you skip trial of the fool on your steel soul run you are a coward
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Not going to lie, when I did Arena of Fools on my Steel Soul Run, I also did it a couple of times on my normal save to ~get loose~ and make sure I was on point
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SirSamVimes posted:If you skip trial of the fool on your steel soul run you are a coward Not only did I skip them, but I also quit the game and reloaded when the watcher knights were about to flatten me with one mask left.
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Arrhythmia posted:Not only did I skip them, but I also quit the game and reloaded when the watcher knights were about to flatten me with one mask left. A well-timed reset is a true warrior's most fearsome weapon
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Arrhythmia posted:Not only did I skip them, but I also quit the game and reloaded when the watcher knights were about to flatten me with one mask left. Not only did you cheat the game, you cheated yourself
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Next up: Glass Soul.
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Martman posted:Are you referring to the trials? Pantheon, i.e. Godmaster stuff, doesn't leave a spirit afaik SirSamVimes posted:Pantheon stuff = Godhome. ah yes, sorry not sure what happened to my reading comprehension there. And writing comprehension, because I even typed "pantheon".  Completely unrelated, but anyone know if there is a way to hide/disable the UI?
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I've been loving this game but I'm worried I may have screwed myself (late-ish game spoilers). I have been playing without a guide for 30ish hours but finally looked this up when I had no idea what to do. I didn't know you could actually kill the three ancients in the dream realm since they didn't react to getting hit with the nail a couple times. I've already been to all three of their locations and I know I can get back to them easily, but the one in Deepnest was somewhat scripted so I'm wondering if it's possible to get back to the Beast's Lair section.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I've been loving this game but I'm worried I may have screwed myself (late-ish game spoilers). I have been playing without a guide for 30ish hours but finally looked this up when I had no idea what to do. It is possible. You enter it like a building, but outside of the vendors that is pretty unique so I understand your concern.
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