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goethe.cx posted:Gorsuch has sided with the liberals in a few 5-4 decisions. Not holding out a ton of hope here but it’s possible I don't exactly have high hopes for his brand of constitutional originalism to support LGBTQ people.
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theflyingorc posted:Lawyers in this thread have indicated that they can start slamming them with fines, which is what we're looking for Ah yes the slaps in wrist of 100$ fines for people with millions or billions.
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theflyingorc posted:Lawyers in this thread have indicated that they can start slamming them with fines, which is what we're looking for IANAL (also a form of protest) -- it looks like they can start adding civil suits on top of contempt, but they would generally use the DOJ for enforcement. Since the DOJ is the problem, it's unclear how they'd actually file for the civil charges, but the fact that they're probably going to have to likely means it takes some time to start spinning those up. And ... they might be subject to further delay tactics from there. That could be why we aren't hearing about Rudy's crypt having to sell his old goblets and poo poo.
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Mahoning posted:Well the new subpoena is for Sondland's testimony AND documents. So they hadn't issued a subpoena for testimony before today, so that is actually (well, potentially) big if he decides to ignore that. But also, I think this means they're actually issuing a subpoena to SONDLAND for documents and communications, which makes sense since he was apparently doing all this on a private phone. It looks like they did subpoena Pompeo for documents So unless I am missing something my question still stands, How are these new subpoenas worth anything if they have shown an unwillingness to enforce and already out of date subpoena? I get that article says they are in 'on going talks' but if this is all back door dealings it seems like you would at least be public about "Pompeo gave us what we need" so others know no one is sliding on the subpoenas.
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Happy weed page, thread
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Celexi posted:Ah yes the slaps in wrist of 100$ fines for people with millions or billions. Nnnnnnooooooppppppeeeeeee Thousands, or Tens of thousands per day, often directed at people who aren't actually wealthy.
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Gonna need some of that state legal weed in the state where we have an openly gay governor to deal with a lovely gorsuch decision. I'm prepared for the worst y'all.
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Angry_Ed posted:I don't exactly have high hopes for his brand of constitutional originalism to support LGBTQ people. No but this isn’t a constitutional case. It’s possible that his weird rear end textualism will support the right result. After all, Scalia wrote the opinion holding that Title VII prohibits workplace harassment by members of the same sex, when that was still an open question
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Celexi posted:Ah yes the slaps in wrist of 100$ fines for people with millions or billions. $100,000 a day on a low millionaire is not trivial.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:When would a decision come down if arguments are happening now? theoretically any time (generally mondays) when opinions are handed down, in practicality december or later last year the Court released 3 opinions for cases argued in October before the new year, and it's final opinion from October in June eke out fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Oct 8, 2019 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:When would a decision come down if arguments are happening now? Around the end of the term, so possibly as late as next May.
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Celexi posted:100$ why are so many people writing it this way all of a sudden
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mango sentinel posted:$100,000 a day on a low millionaire is not trivial. even if they are that high, the one "enforcing" those fines is barrs justice department, so good luck with that?
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goethe.cx posted:No but this isn’t a constitutional case. It’s possible that his weird rear end textualism will support the right result. After all, Scalia wrote the opinion holding that Title VII prohibits workplace harassment by members of the same sex, when that was still an open question Yeah but it's also possible he digs up some definition of the word 'sex' from the 50s that supports the regressive nonsense position.
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Riptor posted:why are so many people writing it this way all of a sudden I am an European currently in America, in Europe we normally put the currency symbol after the number.
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MagusDraco posted:https://twitter.com/GregStohr/status/1181590320942850056 Mid 2020 most likely.
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Riptor posted:why are so many people writing it this way all of a sudden Cos you say one hundred dollars, not dollars one hundred
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beejay posted:A little good news in hell world, Jimmy Carter is back to work even after his fall: drat, even ol jimmy can't retire
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s been 2 goddamn weeks But nothing matters is eternal. theflyingorc posted:Nnnnnnooooooppppppeeeeeee It almost never starts with the big guys. It starts with the career guys or the minor sycophants, not the big players. Taerkar fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 8, 2019 |
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I’m kind of curious how long they could find some gop shitheel to pay their fines.
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beejay posted:A little good news in hell world, Jimmy Carter is back to work even after his fall: glad to see he is still kicking and doing good stuff.
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OctaMurk posted:Cos you say one hundred dollars, not dollars one hundred Yes but we've written it that way for hundreds of years
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Riptor posted:Yes but we've written it that way for hundreds of years So? You understood it was 100 dollars, yes?
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goethe.cx posted:No but this isn’t a constitutional case. It’s possible that his weird rear end textualism will support the right result. After all, Scalia wrote the opinion holding that Title VII prohibits workplace harassment by members of the same sex, when that was still an open question In the companion case (where a woman was fired for being trans) the employer said they fired her because of their religious beliefs.
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Riptor posted:Yes but we've written it that way for hundreds of years Welcome to the republican party. 
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https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1181594787461255168?s=20 Lindsay can’t be stopped.
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Telsa Cola posted:So? You understood it was 100 dollars, yes? Yes understand just as you me when write this way not mean good practice however
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Riptor posted:Yes but we've written it that way for hundreds of years We say month/date/year and no European ever explained their backwards date writing. We ain't gotta explain poo poo.
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syntaxrigger posted:Can someone explain to me how these new subpoena matter if they haven't enforced the subpoena they issued to pompeo yet? Or have they and I missed it? I have asked the oracle but I got no joy. You didn't ask me nothin' but I'll answer you anyway.  They are 'in negotiations' with the State Dept last we heard. They're currently three days late not responding to the subpoena. Outlook not so good.
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just lmao if you don't write it as 100$00
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Riptor posted:Yes understand just as you me when write this way not mean good practice however If we were writing a technical or academic article then maaaybeeee I would agree but we are on the internet on a web forum discussing our dumb politics and food preferences.
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Rudoku posted:We say month/date/year and no European ever explained their backwards date writing. We ain't gotta explain poo poo. "those drat commies with their wrong dates"
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Celexi posted:even if they are that high, the one "enforcing" those fines is barrs justice department, so good luck with that? I have no idea what parts of this are true, but if you're 100% accurate, then there's literally no legal recourse for the subpoenas being followed, and the House literally has no powers to stop it, yay.
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I want to see Trump and co behind bars. Let them govern from prison until conviction
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1181594787461255168?s=20 id make a joke about graham loving 8chan for its illegal reasons but i am pretty sure thats libel. anyway, https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1181601756347797505
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theflyingorc posted:I have no idea what parts of this are true, but if you're 100% accurate, then there's literally no legal recourse for the subpoenas being followed, and the House literally has no powers to stop it, yay. This article by Reuters goes into it: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-idUSKCN1S81FP but it doesn't really say anything definitively. The short version is: there are theoretically avenues to pursue, but most of it is Calvinball at this point since the system has already failed. edit: it's also from May, so this little game of nonsense has been going on for a while now. tl;dr: who knows?
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Celexi posted:even if they are that high, the one "enforcing" those fines is barrs justice department, so good luck with that? what no the DOJ does not run article 3 courts
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Dapper_Swindler posted:id make a joke about graham loving 8chan for its illegal reasons but i am pretty sure thats libel. I really wish he was involved in some way or form with this administration's corruption beyond cheer leading it, because he's genuine scum.
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