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Brony Car
May 22, 2014

by Cyrano4747

Sorry, Kamala. Warren controls the cougar vote now.

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mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Tatsuta Age posted:

Yes, he was commenting on how that's bullshit

Are you gonna believe the journalist or the guy who is the communications director for Turkey writing a Pro-Turkey op-ed?

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




Oh good, taking time out of their busy day of crimes and shitposting on twitter to gut the few protections tipped workers have from being in serfdom

gently caress these people so much

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



https://twitter.com/kylieatwood/status/1181721813556051968

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

sanchez posted:

I could possibly make it down there, sounded like the audience was having a blast at the last one.

Do it. The more you make those things a circus the angrier Wohl's gonna get and that's the best part of these.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
The next president should immediately take a picture of her/himself behind the Resolute Desk with the doors and windows open. Air out the Oval Office.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

deoju posted:

The next president should immediately take a picture of her/himself behind the Resolute Desk with the doors and windows open. Air out the Oval Office.

That glass is like 8 inches thick they don’t open.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



The Glumslinger posted:

Looks like the British, store brand Trump is following suite about being above the law

https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1181692299828482049

Queen Liz personally telling Bozo Johnson to get hosed would be the funniest poo poo, and hopefully a harbinger of things to come

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

sanchez posted:

I could possibly make it down there, sounded like the audience was having a blast at the last one.
Bring a boombox

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

TulliusCicero posted:

Queen Liz personally telling Bozo Johnson to get hosed would be the funniest poo poo, and hopefully a harbinger of things to come

She’s gonna wear a rude brooch

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

TulliusCicero posted:

Queen Liz personally telling Bozo Johnson to get hosed would be the funniest poo poo, and hopefully a harbinger of things to come

they're on the same side my dude

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

axeil posted:

It's very, very sad and enraging. Homophobic straight men are so terrified of being called "gay" for being attracted a trans-woman that they will literally murder people over it. It's insane. The argument doesn't even make any sense because trans-women are women and present as women. How is it "gay" to be attracted to a person who presents as/looks like a woman? It's so loving dumb.

By their logic a man being attracted to a trans-man isn't "gay" (despite trans-men presenting as men) because of what...genitals that you can't readily see? Chromosomes that you definitely can't see?

It's so loving stupid.

Among the many things my ex wife divorced me over, and one of the biggest, was that she found out I had looked at transgender porn. Just throwing that out there since she considers herself and open minded liberal type.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

Taerkar posted:

If the impeachment process gets derailed (as is quite likely) by the Republican controlled Senate not playing ball it is a constitutional crisis. If the Impeachment process in the House can't progress forward because the Executive and Justice branches of the government are saying 'LUL NO' for everything and stopping hearings then it's a constitutional crisis. That's because both involve a violation of one of the core elements of the constitution.

It's not because of his 'Not get the result you want' BS line that's not far from 'Orange Man Bad'. We already know the GOP is acting in bad faith and they're trying to drag things out to avoid any consequences.

The Senate has the option of voting to support the poo poo smear's acquittal. That's part of the Constitution, and not a constitutional crises.

The Senate has the option of changing it's rules (unlikely) and not taking up articles of impeachment and ignoring it all. That's part of the Constitution, and not a constitutional crises.

"LUL NO" is actually part Constitution that serves anyone arrested well, and is not (yet) a constitutional crises here.

"We already know the GOP is acting in bad faith and they're trying to drag things out to avoid any consequences." Has to be proven, "legally" first, which leads to "politically" later.

Everyone here in this thread knows the GOP is poo poo, but we're not the voting public in red states, and I'd reckon none of us is able to convince a Senator of trump's shittiness until the polls go under.

ETA: "until the polls go under."

Otteration fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Oct 9, 2019

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

deoju posted:

The next president should immediately take a picture of her/himself behind the Resolute Desk with the doors and windows open. Air out the Oval Office.

The White House is in need of a good rebuilding, what better occasion than erasing any memory of Trump being there

(Insert pic of a bulldozer inside the white house's shell)

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

what the fuuuuuuck

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass

DarkHorse posted:

(Insert pic of a bulldozer inside the white house's shell)

Do this again: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/upshot/harry-trumans-home-improvement.html

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

Arglebargle III posted:

what the fuuuuuuck

you'll need to be more specific boss

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Good signs

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1181597285458890754

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

The Glumslinger posted:

What are the odds they trot out the same dude?

Different guy, but same kickin' rad xXx tattoo.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

That glass is like 8 inches thick they don’t open.
100% certain the door to the left of the desk as you are facing it opens.

Edit: or at least it did under Obama.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




If Republicans as a whole are already around 15-20% defecting, and those independent swings are big, the cracks are really growing now

Expect to see more GOP Senators than Romney testing the waters

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

what the gently caress guys

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/laura_nelson/status/1181727656930234368

Our loving privatized utility has decided that it wants to continue to embezzle money from safety funds into executive bonuses, and in an effort to allow themselves to stop burning down the state from their illegally under maintained equipment, plan to cut power to nearly a million people over the next several days.

Nationalize PG&E

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

The Glumslinger posted:

Nationalize PG&E
We don't want it!

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Maybe introduce some legislation to stop it shithead.

I'm quoting this monkey's paw of a post for later when Republicans authorize arms shipments to ISIS or something else equally inane.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
This is absolutely despicable and the most shameful thing trump has done.

https://twitter.com/IgnatiusPost/status/1181724205567631367

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
Slain witness Joshua Brown was expected to testify in lawsuit against Dallas police
nypost.com/October 7, 2019

NyPost. Sorry if this was this part of the family legal team's twitted letter pages ago (twit doesn't like me, so I couldn't read it).

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

Les Ricains tuent et moi je mue
Mao Mao
Les fous sont rois et moi je bois
Mao Mao
Les bombes tonnent et moi je sonne
Mao Mao
Les bebes fuient et moi je fuis
Mao Mao


Lightning Knight posted:

I'm quoting this monkey's paw of a post for later when Republicans authorize arms shipments to ISIS or something else equally inane.

adding to the list of our other allies in the global war on terror, al qaeda and the taliban

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



skylined! posted:

This is absolutely despicable and the most shameful thing trump has done.

https://twitter.com/IgnatiusPost/status/1181724205567631367

Oh wow, the Russians benefit from this too?! Who could have seen this coming?! :rolleyes:

(Literally everyone with a functioning brain and not a Trump cultist saw this coming)

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

skylined! posted:

This is absolutely despicable and the most shameful thing trump has done.

https://twitter.com/IgnatiusPost/status/1181724205567631367

Well, Russian TV has been singing praises of Molotov-Ribbentrop lately....

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer

TulliusCicero posted:

Oh wow, the Russians benefit from this too?! Who could have seen this coming?! :rolleyes:

(Literally everyone with a functioning brain and not a Trump cultist saw this coming)

Someone hack up that code-word server in the WH basement. The trump/putin phone convos might be good for a laugh.

Edit: Oops, someone's already taxing it:
https://i.imgur.com/l0tVCHl.mp4

Otteration fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Oct 9, 2019

Robot Hobo
May 18, 2002

robothobo.com

skylined! posted:

This is absolutely despicable and the most shameful thing trump has done.
For all the people who have made the (very reasonable) argument that Bush was still a worse president than Trump because he caused a higher death toll, you had to have known Trump would try to catch up on that front eventually.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

That's mostly because Trump is an incompetent coward. And they won't let him use nukes.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
If you're arguing about Bush and bodycounts instead of doing things to stop the current criminal administration, that's the problem. No one loving cares and we won't care until Trump is long out of office.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



We cover this?

https://twitter.com/joshscampbell/status/1181681167436660736?s=19

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



sanchez posted:

I could possibly make it down there, sounded like the audience was having a blast at the last one.

Do it, dress in a suit, say you're from the SA News Service, and ask a question like, "In a statement earlier today, Harris said that you were barely a 3 in bed. How do you respond to these allegations?"

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

jesus christ. he really is just speed running nixon hard.


no. my guess is he only knows a little bit since i think some of it happend after he got pinched.

skylined! posted:

This is absolutely despicable and the most shameful thing trump has done.

https://twitter.com/IgnatiusPost/status/1181724205567631367

jesus christ. tomorrow is gonna be a nightmare. trump is basicaly letting the bastion of progressive thought in the middle east get pushed over a beaten to death by various faction of chud. god i hate him.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



Random Stranger posted:

Do it, dress in a suit, say you're from the SA News Service, and ask a question like, "In a statement earlier today, Harris said that you were barely a 3 in bed. How do you respond to these allegations?"

Please.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

Congress choosing not to enforce them is the Constitutional crisis :psyduck:

Beaten but I mean, yeah. What did he thing a Constitutional crisis even was?

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Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



BiggerBoat posted:

I've started re-reading Hunter S. Thompson's "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail: 72" and, my god, does it read like a synopsis of what's going on now. Maybe with a little less blatant criminality since Nixon hadn't hit Watergate yet but the stuff about disaffected voters, uninspiring candidates, trouble getting the youth vote to turn out, the sleazy Madison Avenue approach to grooming people running, the general instinct for averting the truth and manufacturing "charisma"...it all hits really close to home.

I'm only about 70 pages in and if you just swapped a few names and a war or two around it would read a lot like what's taking shape now. He talks a lot about what drove Nixon voters and how hard it was to get people to turn out for McGovern - or even turn out at all - and was at the top of his game as a writer then.

The main feeling I get from reading it is just how truly cyclical all this really is and how the same people keep falling for the same poo poo and being hosed by the same things. I think they cycle is LARGER now, like an outward spiral, so the extremes are getting more pronounced. The main question I have is when one or the other flies out of orbit. It hasn't done anything to quell my sense of hopelessness. This has been building for a LONG time.

Everyone interested in politics should read this book though. It was written 47 years ago and reads like today, only with more humor and way more credibility and intelligence.

So American society has ages. The age of the New Deal for example lasted from FDR around 1936 (can't remember off the top of my head) to 1980, where we transitioned away from socialism to neoliberalism.

Now that socialist, post-war society had aged and collapsed. Its defenders had grown old and comfortable. Capital had undermined it. And in the 1970's that order was extremely weak and American society was in a sort of crisis of self. We'd been the heroes during WW1 and 2, at least according to our national mythos, but Vietnam put the nail in that particular coffin. Or at least one of the nails. So we reorganized as a society around neoliberalism and politically the democrats shifted away from labor to capital and the republicans shifted away (ish) from open racism to dog whistle racism and towards conservative Christianity.

We're at that point again. Honestly, we have been since 2007 during the financial crisis. We were primed for a New Deal style reorganization but Obama took all of that Hope and Change rhetoric and flushed it down the toilet. He continued to embrace neoliberalism despite the fact that the values of capitalism championed by neoliberalism, greed is good, failed spectacularly.

The problem is that we didn't reorganize like during and after the Great Depression. We were primed for it and nothing happened. Obama stuck with the old, crumbling system and it has continued to crumble ever since. The republican party, terrified that white supremacy might fail, have increasingly doubled down on failed, old policies and naked hatred. But they can no longer win without cheating. The democrats primarily serve as an alternative party that aren't as abusive as the republicans, but also act as a kind of flywheel. They'll go further right, but the party actively discourages and attempts to destroy any left wing movement at all.

Americans despise both parties, want some sort of new order but neither party is reaching for a new order in any sort of meaningful way. And so in jump the demogauges. If society were healthy and stable, these people would basically be nobodies, but now they can reach for and potentially achieve real power because when the values of a liberal democracy fail, they'll reach for a strongman to "set everything right". Trump was that strongman.

What you're seeing is the same thing that Thompson saw. The collapse of the old order, but the parties want to keep the grift going. They want to keep their jobs even though they're not doing them. They want to keep the rot right where it is, letting it spread rather than adapting and listening to their voters. Who they listen to instead, basically exclusively now, are wealthy donors. And those wealthy donors call almost all of the shots.

What you're reading about In "Fear and Loathing" would be synonymous with the end of one of these political eras. Where the political machine is broken and everyone is angry, disinterested and stressed. We missed the obvious boat to creating a new era in 2008 with Obama because he just didn't do it despite having a clear mandate to remake the country. Now we're drifting towards fascism because that's what people do when liberal democracies are crumbling.

What's particularly interesting and unexpected is that fascism is openly failing basically right out the gate. Trump is an incompetent narcissist. His brain is broken and he's even more corrupt than basically any present we've had. So when fascism fails, what comes after that? More fascism maybe? Socialism? Don't know. We can't really go back to the status quo. At least not in a way that would be sustainable. There are no tweaks that will fix this system, no small fixes. What we need are sweeping changes. And the democrats want to try and kick the socialism can down the road another twenty years because they're almost all self-interested grifters and ice chewing psychopaths.

The neoliberal order has been collapsing, and really, it collapsed in 2008. It was revived by Obama, but none of the contradictions were resolved at a fundamental or root level. But the collapse never completely stopped. The rot continued. America is poised for a new political order and Trump could have set the tone just like Obama did, but Trump is fantastically stupid and can't capitalize on his win to absolutely steamroll our weak, dumb poo poo institutions and largely toothless and feeble watchdogs.

So America is rotting now like it was back then, begging for a new political order. And instead of changing, we've entered a political holding pattern.

Ice Phisherman fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 9, 2019

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