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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Niwrad posted:

Has there been any idea why Trump made the move to abandon the Kurds? Personal business? Help with the campaign?

Spot the topical edit !




e. cat tax !

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OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
current president. That was easy.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Trump I assume caught an episode of Big Bad Beetleborgs in the mid90s and it's finally bubbling its way to the surface.

Would be great to have some kind of accurate count of ISIS prisoners in Kurdistan. I understand the logistics, but all I've seen is "tens of thousands". It's a big number folks, you wouldn't believe it , trust me

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
When Trump don’t get the Nobel Peace Prize tomorrow and starts bitching about it, the optics are gonna be fantastic.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

BigglesSWE posted:

When Trump don’t get the Nobel Peace Prize tomorrow and starts bitching about it, the optics are gonna be fantastic.

It being Greta would be fantastic, but the other contenders all look good too.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/10/world/nobel-peace-prize-2019-favorites-scli-intl/index.html

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007

lurker2006 posted:

What leverage does Turkey have to get the US out of the way of their genocide? What pressure would they begin applying if there were still us troops in the region five years from now? Proxy terrorism?

Turkey's biggest diplomatic card is the millions of Syrian refugees they have in the country right now, and anti-refugee sentiment is growing there. Everybody would rather have them going to back Syria instead of Europe. I wouldn't be surprised if that influenced the Trump administration's decision here.

Erdogan may have also made some bullshit promise that he'd be willing to sign a major arms dead with the US. Trump does like to brag about his arms dead with Saudi Arabia.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Whew, good, glad we got those two guys. Here I thought we'd let them all get away. Jesus gently caress go drown yourself in a shallow bathtub Don

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

OAquinas posted:

Wait...
IE
CM
CT

rearrange....enhance....

CC TIME

Chris Cillizza Time


my god

No, it's CC alright, you know, code for CI CI...it's pizzagate 2.0

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Charlz Guybon posted:

It being Greta would be fantastic, but the other contenders all look good too.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/10/world/nobel-peace-prize-2019-favorites-scli-intl/index.html

The deliberation period was probably too early for it to be Greta

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug

Isn't he literally on video saying "Don't worry, most of the freed ISIS fighters will be going to Europe"? I mean, it's great that you took two and now pretend that you actually thought it was important, but you already told us what the plan is for the rest of them you dumb poo poo, help the neo-zar destabilize europe. I wonder who told him that the ISIS people would be going to europe anyway, one of the fascist advisors or a russian handler? (more likely, a combo type person).

e: Of course he did: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1182025864684417024

Also featured in this clip, how Turks and Kurds are already mortal enemies with a side of 'b.b.b.bbbut Obama!'

Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Oct 10, 2019

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
loving lol

"Buisness Insider posted:

Trump reportedly offered to sell F-35 jets to Turkey in exchange for not attacking Kurdish forces in Syria

Trump offered Erdogan "a really good package," in addition to other benefits and a presidential visit, a senior State Department official told the Washington Post columnist Josh Rogin.

Erdogan is still scheduled to visit the White House in November.

Trump made the decision to withdraw US troops from northeastern Syria near the Turkish border on Sunday following his call with Erdogan. Thousands of US-backed Kurds are stationed in northeastern Syria, and observers say Trump's decision has left the Kurdish fighters vulnerable to Turkish attack and may even fuel an ISIS resurgence.

Turkey has long cited the Kurdish People's Protection Units, or YPG, and the majority-Kurdish Syrian Democratic Forces as terrorist threats with links to the Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK. The PKK is a Turkey-based rebel group that has been designated as a terrorist organization by the US and Turkey.

Trump's purported offer to Erdogan marks a departure from the US's policy since July not to include Turkey in its flagship F-35 program. The US granted F-35 contracts to several allies, including the UK and South Korea, but took Turkey off that list when it purchased Russia's advanced S-400 air-defense systems.

"The F-35 cannot coexist with a Russian intelligence collection platform that will be used to learn about its advanced capabilities," the White House said in a statement at the time.

"Turkey has been a long-standing and trusted partner and NATO ally for over 65 years, but accepting the S-400 undermines the commitments all NATO allies made to each other to move away from Russian systems," the statement added. "This will have detrimental impacts on Turkish interoperability with the alliance."

Turkey, which created more than 900 parts for the F-35, was removed from the program and is expected to be replaced by American manufacturers by March 2020, according to Lockheed Martin CEO Marillyn Hewson. The country had said it would buy 100 F-35As.

The US also withdrew its offer of a $3.5 billion Patriot missile-system contract over Turkey's purchase of Russia's S-400s.

Turkish officials protested the expulsions and described it as a "mistake which would open irreparable wounds."

Despite warnings from Congress, Trump sympathized with Turkey and signaled the resumption of F-35 deliveries. Under the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, Turkey's purchase of Russian military equipment makes it liable to US sanctions.

"It's a very tough situation that they're in, and it's a very tough situation that we've been placed in the United States," Trump told reporters in July. "We'll see what happens. But it's not really fair."

"Because of the fact that you bought a Russian missile, we're not allowed to sell them billions of dollars' worth of aircraft," he added. "It's not a fair situation."


Wow glad we spent a trillion loving dollars developing that stupid jet before just giving it away to everyone so that it is entirely worthless

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Stereotype posted:

loving lol


Wow glad we spent a trillion loving dollars developing that stupid jet before just giving it away to everyone so that it is entirely worthless

I mean, it's a flying trash can that can't even beat the F-16 in a dogfight, so no one is getting a good deal here at all.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Stereotype posted:

loving lol


Wow glad we spent a trillion loving dollars developing that stupid jet before just giving it away to everyone so that it is entirely worthless

When they all crash under the stress of a light shower, thus completely eliminating all the world's air forces but the U.S.', you'll see that Trump was an evil genius all along.

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

Slowpoke! posted:

I think it is likely to do with Hawaii’s weird politics. They don’t fit neatly in the Democratic or Republican parties, so you end up with right-leaning Democrats like Tulsi.

Tulsi may have weird money behind her but I think her endgame is to just make a name for herself so she can get on the grift train when she gets primaried out.
I can assure you that while Hawaii's politics are really loving weird and unbelievably ossified and corrupt, Tulsi is still an outlier. She was elected because Hawaii's biggest voting bloc is scads of Asian and Pacific Islander olds who vote for whoever has a D next to their name regardless of whether they are even slightly left--which is admittedly a pretty nice problem to have, in comparison to elsewhere in the US--and there's not really any contingent of dictator lovers here.

Also she's virulently homophobic (it's out of fashion now so she just doesn't talk about LGBTQ folks at all) and Islamophobic. And grew up having her mind broken by a cult. There's a lot to learn about Tulsi and very little of it is good!

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Remember, Trump think they’re literally invisible.

He was probably thinking they’d offer Turkey plausible deniability.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

nine-gear crow posted:

I mean, it's a flying trash can that can't even beat the F-16 in a dogfight, so no one is getting a good deal here at all.

In fairness the F-35 has developed into a pretty good fighter from more recent reports I've read, it just took way, way too much loving time and money to do it.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

I can assure you that while Hawaii's politics are really loving weird and unbelievably ossified and corrupt, Tulsi is still an outlier. She was elected because Hawaii's biggest voting bloc is scads of Asian and Pacific Islander olds who vote for whoever has a D next to their name regardless of whether they are even slightly left--which is admittedly a pretty nice problem to have, in comparison to elsewhere in the US--and there's not really any contingent of dictator lovers here.

Also she's virulently homophobic (it's out of fashion now so she just doesn't talk about LGBTQ folks at all) and Islamophobic. And grew up having her mind broken by a cult. There's a lot to learn about Tulsi and very little of it is good!

This doesn’t explain her winning the primary, which is honestly the only race that anyone in Hawaii pays attention to for state politics. Significantly more than the general.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

BigglesSWE posted:

Remember, Trump think they’re literally invisible.

He was probably thinking they’d offer Turkey plausible deniability.

And it's incredibly sad that to this day we don't know for certain if that was Trump's goobrain interpretation of what stealth systems are, or if he accidentally disclosed that the US has developed fully functional optical camouflage technology.

Panic! at Nabisco
Jun 6, 2007

it seemed like a good idea at the time

Stereotype posted:

This doesn’t explain her winning the primary, which is honestly the only race that anyone in Hawaii pays attention to for state politics. Significantly more than the general.
I honestly do not know why she won the primary, which is why I didn't say :v: When it happened, absolutely everyone thought Mufi Hannemann would win the seat and Tulsi's victory came out of nowhere. I was out of state from 2010 to 2015 so I can't really say in more detail than that.

LegendaryFrog
Oct 8, 2006

The Mastered Mind

Well, now we know Trump is sunk. Gowdy destroys all that he touches.

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1182204153470291968

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Oh look The Washington Times is being lovely again.
A socialist spent money at a hairdressers!

https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/1182104046213185537

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
It's washington times, no one gives a gently caress about them

Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Oct 10, 2019

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Not being American are they on about the same level as The Sun would be in the UK?

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Washington times is owned by a cult, idk what would even be comparable in british newspapers, definitely nothing major.

Washington Post is the prominent washington dc paper that has a more or less very good reputation

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Kevyn posted:

Picture yourself in an oval shaped office
With tangerine skin and marshmallow thighs
You pick up the phone, someone answers quite swiftly
And brings you some burgers and fries

Donald J Trump!
Down on all fours
Donald J Trump!
Voreing down the berders
Donald J Trump!
Mattis sneaks up with a letter
You have just been fired by Donald J Trump.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Helith posted:

Not being American are they on about the same level as The Sun would be in the UK?

Sun is poo poo but it's also really high profile, while the Washington Times exists solely to get mistaken for the Washington Post.

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

Helith posted:

Oh look The Washington Times is being lovely again.
A socialist spent money at a hairdressers!

https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/1182104046213185537

I mean, I don't disagree with the thesis that this is hugely sexist but this person is forgetting that an expensive haircut was famously a big attack story against John Edwards in the 2008 primaries

thin blue whine
Feb 21, 2004
PLEASE SEE POLICY


Soiled Meat
i promise you Trump spends twice that on his hair

ewiley
Jul 9, 2003

More trash for the trash fire
https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1182117083011862529?s=20

Der Waffle Mous
Nov 27, 2009

In the grim future, there is only commerce.

Ah. Like the Oneida who fought and bled for the Americans and for their help were still burned out of New York wth the rest of the Iroquois Confederacy.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Where were the Kurds during the civil war? Checkmate

VH4Ever
Oct 1, 2005

by sebmojo

LegendaryFrog posted:

Well, now we know Trump is sunk. Gowdy destroys all that he touches.

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1182204153470291968

What flipped him? I thought initial reports said he turned the job down. Now he's onboard?

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1182243611653627904


quote:

But the broader sentiment of the segment was expressed by a comment made by Marc Thiessen Wednesday night. The conservative columnist said “Joe Biden comes out and endorses impeachment today. The problem is its bad news for him. The last thing he should want is impeachment inquiry. If there is going to be an investigation into the president there will be one into Biden. They see him as in the way is he complicating the story.”

Henry followed that by noting “one of the things here is that the president and his attorney Rudy Giuliani, one of their goals was to get the Hunter Biden information out there, get it in the bloodstream and point out that Biden may have big problems and, guess what, in the democratic primary he does have big problems.”

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005
oh my god AOC spent a few hundreds of dollars

cancelled.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Kevyn posted:

Picture yourself in an oval shaped office
With tangerine skin and marshmallow thighs
You pick up the phone, someone answers quite swiftly
And brings you some burgers and fries

Laughed hard at this for some reason, thanks

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006



Ok? Then investigate Biden too. These ghouls can’t seem to understand that people would want corruption persecuted in any politician because that’s the right thing to do

Pellisworth posted:

oh my god AOC spent a few hundreds of dollars

cancelled.

If AOC is not wearing only old newspapers as clothing and has any personal hygiene care how can she claim to be a Socialist? Check mate, Leftards :smug:

Dr. VooDoo fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Oct 10, 2019

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://mobile.twitter.com/AFP/status/1182245218025922560

https://mobile.twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/1182244587173285894

Right out of Trump's playbook

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Oct 10, 2019

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

The washington times is run by a Korean religious cult (or his son now? I think the original dude died) anyway it’s read by like 50 people total so no one gives a gently caress about them, not even local conservatives.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Solaris 2.0 posted:

The washington times is run by a Korean religious cult (or his son now? I think the original dude died) anyway it’s read by like 50 people total so no one gives a gently caress about them, not even local conservatives.
Yeah, the Moonies. The founder died a few years ago and there was a lot of discussion that the WT would fold after that since he was their main source of funding, but they are still around

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Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug

Probably trumps suggestion. With allies like these....

Also, Erdogan was 100% gonna do that anyway, but watch the EU bend over backwards to a genocidal fascist dictator on the desperate hope to avoid more brown people.

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