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lol the fuzz are systematically carrying off and arresting sit in XR types in the road at traf square, with each arrestee bring politely clapped. It's like free civil disobedience training
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feedmegin posted:Already signed up and got trained namesake posted:We're not supposed to talk about the super secret antifa training. :shhh: CGI Stardust posted:Signed up just now, eagerly awaiting the super serum  Zalakwe posted:Yes and no. Batman as a protagonist over the years has a serious case of the capitalisms however Nolan's look at it is quite critical. It's been a while since I saw any of them, but my red hot take is that the first 2 are well crafted and highly entertaining if slightly problematic in very conventional Hollywood/superhero ways when it comes to ideas about justice and ethics, capitalism and power etc etc. I thought the last one was pretty poo poo when I saw it though, both for its politics and for its plotting. I've only seen it once though, so I might be being grossly unfair. I generally like Nolan, but there's this weird tension where he seems to want to try to be highly imaginative in terms of concept but his strengths are in tightly controlled set pieces and procedural plotting. Like, Inception had the potential to go off in wild and interesting places, but instead Nolan's dreams are all just highly conventional Bond style action locales with a couple token nods to the physical rules being different. The very, very occasional flash of something surreal (like a train appearing down a city street or a city folding on itself) ended up seeming so constrained that it lost the entire sense of being surreal, and there was never any attempt at recreating a sense of dream logic- everything followed the conventional path of a normal blockbuster film. I mean, imagine Lynch doing the same movie. It might be poo poo (Dune, anyone?), but it's be a crazy ride worth seeing. Dunkirk was great in part because the organising structural concept foregrounded that sense of formal constraint and tight control, which really played to his strengths I think.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:09
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In an emergency applauding and etiquette are important.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:09
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Calico Heart posted:!!!THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!! Wear a brooch or hat imbued with subtle symbolism that lets your real feelings about the queen be known Give her a taste of her own loving medicine
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Oct 10, 2019 15:11
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Wear a brooch or hat imbued with subtle symbolism that lets your real feelings about the queen be known  Something like this, perhaps?
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Oct 10, 2019 15:12
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Hold up a banner with Charles II was Right and bask in the brief celebrity before being deep sixed by MI5. Uhhh. Right about what? The importance of making war on the Dutch? Taxing fireplaces?
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Oct 10, 2019 15:24
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What actually happened between Johnson and Varadkar? CNBC says the pound rose because of their talks. Are the Irish really going to save Johnson’s rear end here? Disappointing!
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Oct 10, 2019 15:28
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Brony Car posted:What actually happened between Johnson and Varadkar? CNBC says the pound rose because of their talks. All the traders went and had a really good lunch with quality coke so they decided that it was good news this time rather than the time the food was slow which meant the news was bad.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:30
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feedmegin posted:Uhhh. Right about what? The importance of making war on the Dutch? Taxing fireplaces? I assumed he meant Cromwell.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:32
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Brony Car posted:What actually happened between Johnson and Varadkar? CNBC says the pound rose because of their talks. gently caress all happened, they issued a completely substanceless joint statement which is a carbon copy of hundreds of EU statements before. UK continues to see Ireland as a separate negotiating body to the EU, misunderstanding and ruining everything
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Oct 10, 2019 15:36
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Brony Car posted:What actually happened between Johnson and Varadkar? CNBC says the pound rose because of their talks. post hoc ergo propter hoc
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Oct 10, 2019 15:42
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Beefeater1980 posted:You need the threat there, but in terms of actually making people’s lives better you can wait 100 years for the big world-changing revolution that improves* your lot, and in the meantime 3-4 generations of boring, compromised moderates have successfully extracted concessions like limited hours working, social security, the NHS, bans on children working in factories etc. feedmegin posted:Uhhh. Right about what? The importance of making war on the Dutch? Taxing fireplaces? e: To clarify, the Dutch are a major source of CO2 and PM2.5, they're not necessarily inefficient, as the Netherlands scores quite highly on the Global Competitiveness and Inclusive Growth Indices. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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Oct 10, 2019 15:47
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Pilchenstein posted:Counterpoint: you should absolutely do this, we'll all think you're cool as gently caress Well witness you and tell tales of how sick it was that you shouted at the Queen and how tragic it was when the paparazzi ran you off the road
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Oct 10, 2019 15:48
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Calico Heart posted:!!!THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!! Wear a really snarky broach. Edit. drat beaten.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:51
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Oh, I have a Rupert Read story! When I was at university I took a module in Introduction to Philosophy. It was like a series of short courses with a lecturer in each of various fields, with some assigned readings from those fields' more influential philosophers. Descartes, Kant, Chomsky, you get the idea. Read led the section on political philosophy. All of his assigned texts were excerpts from papers and articles by Rupert Read. The seminars were basically about analysing how right he is. Talking to students in the actual humanities school, he had a reputation for that sort of thing.
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Oct 10, 2019 15:59
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Wear a brooch or hat imbued with subtle symbolism that lets your real feelings about the queen be known I'm literally wearing this t-shirt right now:  Is it too late in the day to get it washed and sent off to OP?
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Oct 10, 2019 16:00
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Brony Car posted:What actually happened between Johnson and Varadkar? CNBC says the pound rose because of their talks. boris is copying trump's style with the ridiculously long red tie
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Oct 10, 2019 16:02
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Is it too late in the day to get it washed and sent off to OP? Well we're all goons here so you can leave it unwashed as god intended, that should save some time
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Oct 10, 2019 16:04
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radmonger posted:In other words, how to make protestIng a life long hobby, not something you do with the aim of achieving some political or social change. Lol what? No, it is about being successful in the aims of protests. It's about applying pressure in effective ways, rather than making a statement and loving off a la Extinction Rebellion. It's about protecting and supporting each other in the face of state actors who use every dirty trick imaginable to grind people down, discourage or frighten them, or just beat the poo poo out of them or lock them up. Do not talk to the police if you're protesting. They will gently caress you up the instant it's convenient for them. Any pretence otherwise is just to string you along and get intel to harm you and your movement. We've seen ER activists getting visits from police prior to protests even happening. This is because the police know who to put pressure on. Because the dipshits talked to the police. Old hands learned hard lessons out protesting and winning real change. To ignore their advice is the height of arrogance. And it's harming many naive people who trust the leadership of Extinction Rebellion. Your takes are idiotic.
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Oct 10, 2019 16:15
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are varadkar and Johnson still on the Wirral I'm about a mile away from Thornton hall and was thinking of stopping by to say hi
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Oct 10, 2019 16:15
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radmonger posted:In other words, how to make protestIng a life long hobby, not something you do with the aim of achieving some political or social change. No protest has ever worked. Women never got the vote. Black people still sit at the back of buses. The people who are protesting now are the same people protesting 50 years ago and they're protesting for the exact same things. What a colossal dipshit
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Rarity posted:No protest has ever worked. Women never got the vote. Black people still sit at the back of buses. The people who are protesting now are the same people protesting 50 years ago and they're protesting for the exact same things. If you think about the two sentences you have written here for a while, you will eventually come to realise your mistake. XR are looking to copy those successful protests that achieved specific change. Which of those would you say are in living memory in the UK? The closest is probably Bernadette Devlin’s Catholic civil rights marches in the 60s. If anyone here has organising experience dating from that, feel free to share.
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Four sentences.
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Oct 10, 2019 16:33
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radmonger posted:If you think about the two sentences you have written here for a while, you will eventually come to realise your mistake. They're not, though. Most of the tactics that GABC advised them to adopt were learned by the civil rights movement after multiple false starts in order to protect themselves from hostile law enforcement agencies. This would work a lot better if you had, like, any grounding in the history of protest.
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radmonger posted:If you think about the two sentences you have written here for a while, you will eventually come to realise your mistake. Oh wait i know this one. It's comment isn't it
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Oct 10, 2019 16:53
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CyberPingu posted:Oh wait i know this one. It's comment isn't it I'm afraid in this case its Commissar 
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Oct 10, 2019 16:55
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Clarence posted:I think it's just trying to get as many people involved as quickly as possible. Most of them probably wouldn't get involved in anything more radical - so that "normalise protest over climate crisis" is probably on the nose. well I didn't just mean "get as many people involved as possible", that's obviously the goal and why they're trying to make it as friendly as possible (I'd seen the Ash video posted too, with all the protesters talking about wanting to keep the "right energy") it was more about how they're doing that, then intentionally getting people arrested - that piece forkboy posted earlier, talking about how XR organisers were complaining about how the police were taking too long to start cracking down. Like if you're protesting, you want that manifestation in place for as long as possible for maximum impact, right? You don't want to show up and be immediately (and meekly) escorted off the premises That's why it reminded me of the martyrdom tactics, where the point was to be nice and friendly, and get fully hosed up as a result, to make a point. Basically radicalising the country against your enemies, proving that obedient protest will get us nowhere, that kind of thing. Bringing in as many people as possible by being inclusive, building that sense of solidarity and justified action, then showing how the establishment reacts to your cause. That's more powerful if you identify with the group it's happening to I don't get the feeling that's what the leadership are doing (and it would be incredibly cynical of them to sacrifice people like that without their informed consent) but I figured I'd ask anyways namesake posted:Well Rupert Reed the XR guy wrote this a few years back... lot of  going on in here
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If your protest goes for the martyrdom tactic it's vulnerable to inciting agents and/or false flags.
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Don't stop, never give up, cut your head off cos you reached the top, let the world see what you have got, bring it all back to you.
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Oct 10, 2019 17:26
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Does the S in S club stand for socialist?
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Oct 10, 2019 17:30
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As twisto assures me, Bradley is a comrade
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Stalin Club 7 There's only three of them in all the photos now.
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Oct 10, 2019 17:36
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CyberPingu posted:Get her on the podcast!!!!!!! It will be done I’ll ask her who her favourite Joker was
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Oct 10, 2019 17:37
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Jose posted:boris is copying trump's style with the ridiculously long red tie Boris thinks of himself as one part revolutionary politician who will lead his country to freedom, and one part Wild West outlaw. Which is why we should call him Fidel the Kid.
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Oct 10, 2019 17:38
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Calico Heart posted:I’ll ask her who her favourite Joker was e: ^^ 
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Oct 10, 2019 17:39
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Ain't no Party like an S Club Party 🤔
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Guavanaut posted:Stalin Club 7 Bring It All Back Under State Ownership Two in a Million is a Statistic Show Me Your Colours, Comrade
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Jedit posted:Boris thinks of himself as one part revolutionary politician who will lead his country to freedom, and one part Wild West outlaw. Which is why we should call him Fidel the Kid. Fiddle the Kid, surely?
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I will go and see Joker but I'm sceptical because of the director saying he moved into doing dramas because "woke culture" is ruining comedy.goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm literally wearing this t-shirt right now: Hey nice I also have this t-shirt.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Bring It All Back Under State Ownership 
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