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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I'm fairly sure accusing someone of being responsible for a pioneering tory government policy is slander.

Hopefully she's happier working for labour if nothing else.

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Mousepractice
Jan 30, 2005

A pint of plain is your only man
Obviously the notion of civil service neutrality is a convenient fiction, but it can cut both ways - just as there's going to be Tory cunts attempting to neutralise good policy under the (insh'Allah) forthcoming socialist government, there are also comrades who've been trying to promote or implement good and sound policy in these last ten years of cunts. My friend is one such, and a particularly successful one at that - although, QED, these small victories need contextualised.

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

https://twitter.com/joswinson/status/1182389516365160449?s=21

God I absolutely hate her

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


The libs in the replies don't seem super fond of her either :v:

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I don't think Chris Williamson actually did anything wrong tbqh

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

This is what I think how Londoners are normally.
But with more knife stabbings.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...g-a9149921.html

“A pair of $3,000 (£2,453) trainers dubbed “Jesus Shoes” that contain holy water have sold out minutes after being made available to purchase.”

Humanity is pathetic.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

Diet Crack posted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...g-a9149921.html

“A pair of $3,000 (£2,453) trainers dubbed “Jesus Shoes” that contain holy water have sold out minutes after being made available to purchase.”

Humanity is pathetic.

Pathetic indeed, not even a meat drawer

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Diet Crack posted:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...g-a9149921.html

“A pair of $3,000 (£2,453) trainers dubbed “Jesus Shoes” that contain holy water have sold out minutes after being made available to purchase.”

Humanity is pathetic.

"sold out" is a bit rich given they seemingly only made and sold one single pair in a blatant pr move


next up, some adidas where the side logo was artisinally chiselled off the kabaa when no-one was looking

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.



Jo Swinson doesn't want to negotiate a deal, she's a No Dealer

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't think Chris Williamson actually did anything wrong tbqh
The thing he did 'wrong' was poorly wording his refutation of the antisemitism accusations. But the press have properly got the knives out for Labour, and anything any MP says is going to be twisted into either a flat denial that the antisemisism exists, or an acknowledgement that the antisemitism exists and therefore everything the press says is true and valid. Also saying nothing or telling the press to gently caress off feeds the 'what do you have to hide' narrative.

It's a loving trap and he stepped into it, but honestly I don't really see how it's possible for a Labour MP to make a statement about it and not gently caress both themself and the party.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


I got this in an e-mail from a recruiter

quote:

The client is looking for:

Strong Non-Functional Testing experience
An NFT engineer with a good understanding of NFRs
An NFT engineer who can create an NFT framework in response to use cases
An NFT engineer with the skill to create test cases and understand the results for data being moved across interfaces (i.e. through API stacks, into MySQL databases from Cloud to on-prem). and back again.
An NFT engineer with knowledge of the Unisys based legacy mainframe.

I've had a look at your profile and think you'd be a really good fit for this role.

I have no idea what 'Non-Functional Testing' is, what are NFRs? What is any of this?. I'm not saying I won't do the job, it's £375 a day. I just hope that people won't die. But I'm pretty sure this guy has not looked at my profile.

Also saw Joker tonight, it's pretty decent. We finally see the death of Bruce Wayne's parents.

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo

Wait so Swinson just wants to revoke article 50 and pretend like the last three years never happened? That seems extremely dangerous for politics and basically gives the future Tories a gift to have Brexit in their platform permanently.

Labour deal + in and out referendum is the only way to go unfortunately.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Three weeks remain. Where's the Boris moon when you need it.

Anyway, let's jeer at some more tax dodging scum.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/10/pensions-tax-relief-set-to-cost-government-almost-40bn

Nothing better than load balancing income across your lifetime so you don't have to pay higher rate tax. Although sadly you can only do this to the tune of £40k a year and a lifetime total of £1.05million (down from 1.25 a few years ago!) HMRC are utter scum and I'm not entirely sold on how they're describing it as 'lost revenue', but ...

"According to a review by parliament’s public accounts committee, of the 424 tax reliefs provided, the tax authority does not report a cost for 239."
"HMRC’s total forecast of the costs of tax reliefs for 2017-2018 is £416.8bn, which according to its annual report is related to 105 reliefs."


The flip side to this of course is that pensions are poo poo, none of us are going to retire, and even if we did well there's no saying that a worldwide crash wouldn't have wiped 40% of the value off your stock bubble 'investment' anyway. More grist to the mill of number.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

The thing he did 'wrong' was poorly wording his refutation of the antisemitism accusations. But the press have properly got the knives out for Labour, and anything any MP says is going to be twisted into either a flat denial that the antisemisism exists, or an acknowledgement that the antisemitism exists and therefore everything the press says is true and valid. Also saying nothing or telling the press to gently caress off feeds the 'what do you have to hide' narrative.

It's a loving trap and he stepped into it, but honestly I don't really see how it's possible for a Labour MP to make a statement about it and not gently caress both themself and the party.

My instinct is that he poorly worded a basically sound point, and that labour coming down on him legitimised the smear. Had the party backed him up and more generally took a more aggressive line towards the AS allegations (telling people to gently caress off where they're obviously being disingenuous) I think we'd be in a much stronger position.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

bessantj posted:

I got this in an e-mail from a recruiter


I have no idea what 'Non-Functional Testing' is, what are NFRs? What is any of this?. I'm not saying I won't do the job, it's £375 a day. I just hope that people won't die. But I'm pretty sure this guy has not looked at my profile.

Also saw Joker tonight, it's pretty decent. We finally see the death of Bruce Wayne's parents.

From context Non-Functional Requirements, but it looks like they’re looking for someone to build out a testing criteria and run tests against it for a good chunk of change per day.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

bessantj posted:

I got this in an e-mail from a recruiter


I have no idea what 'Non-Functional Testing' is, what are NFRs? What is any of this?. I'm not saying I won't do the job, it's £375 a day. I just hope that people won't die. But I'm pretty sure this guy has not looked at my profile.

Also saw Joker tonight, it's pretty decent. We finally see the death of Bruce Wayne's parents.

"I had a look at your profile and I think you'd be a great fit" is recruitese for "I copy-pasted this same message to the first couple dozen search results I got for a buzzword on LinkedIn"

It's the first time I ever see the words "Non-functional testing" so I have no idea, the job spec doesn't help at all, but from Wikipedia that just sounds like a sort of QA. For ~£400/d they probably expect some knowledge of code, automation, querying databases and whatnot though. From the spec, probably knowledge of infosec and knowing your way around a unix shell will be handy

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

bessantj posted:

I got this in an e-mail from a recruiter


I have no idea what 'Non-Functional Testing' is, what are NFRs? What is any of this?. I'm not saying I won't do the job, it's £375 a day. I just hope that people won't die. But I'm pretty sure this guy has not looked at my profile.

Also saw Joker tonight, it's pretty decent. We finally see the death of Bruce Wayne's parents.

Functional testing = make sure buy button works
Non-functional testing = make sure a button works when 10 million people try to click on it, button doesn't spurt personal data across the internet randomly

In this case they're most likely looking for a performance tester, because capitalism doesn't give a poo poo about externalities like 'security' or 'reliability'. Just that if they manage to trick more people than expected into clicking the buy button, they successfully take money from everyone.

£375 is a shite rate for a performance tester, even outside London. Although not too surprising if you're getting emails from a bottom feeder recruiter who's spamming out based on CV keyword matches.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


bessantj posted:

I got this in an e-mail from a recruiter


I have no idea what 'Non-Functional Testing' is, what are NFRs? What is any of this?. I'm not saying I won't do the job, it's £375 a day. I just hope that people won't die. But I'm pretty sure this guy has not looked at my profile.

Also saw Joker tonight, it's pretty decent. We finally see the death of Bruce Wayne's parents.

https://www.guru99.com/functional-testing-vs-non-functional-testing.html

Sounds great tbh, where's it based?

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

RockyB posted:

Functional testing = make sure buy button works
Non-functional testing = make sure a button works when 10 million people try to click on it, button doesn't spurt personal data across the internet randomly

In this case they're most likely looking for a performance tester, because capitalism doesn't give a poo poo about externalities like 'security' or 'reliability'. Just that if they manage to trick more people than expected into clicking the buy button, they successfully take money from everyone.

£375 is a shite rate for a performance tester, even outside London. Although not too surprising if you're getting emails from a bottom feeder recruiter who's spamming out based on CV keyword matches.

Why bother actually doing your job when you can be a consultant on £1000/day hired through some external firm that comes to some company, ignores everything the developers say, then runs some automated suite, makes a powerpoint with that and some stuff nicked from some PDF about best practices, and gives it back to the higher ups who all nod and high-five each other on another job well done, now we know what's wrong, all that's left is to fix it! Meanwhile the developers are literally screaming they have known all this from the beginning, this is nothing new, you fucks told us to ignore it all and focus on the new shiny feature

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Thanks to everyone above. So I'm super not qualified but wouldn't kill anyone.


Cardiff, 3 month contract.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
even this massive melt thinks a referendum before an election is a bad idea now

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1182278183166590981?s=20
https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1182279372948021248?s=20

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


bessantj posted:

Thanks to everyone above. So I'm super not qualified but wouldn't kill anyone.


Cardiff, 3 month contract.

Ta, not worth leaving a permanent gig for though.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Chuka Umana posted:

Wait so Swinson just wants to revoke article 50 and pretend like the last three years never happened? That seems extremely dangerous for politics and basically gives the future Tories a gift to have Brexit in their platform permanently.

Labour deal + in and out referendum is the only way to go unfortunately.

Brexit is an identity issue now for a lot of people and being the "most remain" is the only thing the LDs stand for other than "remember Cameron, let's do that some more"

E:


The comments on this are so far from what I expected I feel like I've stepped into an alternate reality internet where people aren't dumb assholes 95% of the time

RabidWeasel fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 10, 2019

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

A referendum before an election is indeed stupid, because it means the policies outside of Brexit will be ignored and everyone will turbofuck the idea that all those "radical mussies" are going to flood into Europe and take all 'er jobs or blow us up.

As if Trump loving with Turkey isn't some sort of backwards reach around from Donald to Boris.

e: in all of the lesser stories that don't seem to be discussed, it's plainly obvious that there's underhanded, corrupt favours occurring behind closed doors/telephone lines.

Diet Crack fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Oct 10, 2019

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

sebzilla posted:

Ta, not worth leaving a permanent gig for though.

Just FYI, JobServe is still a good clearing house for techie jobs if you're semi-actively looking. In the last seven days for performance testing you've got...



The usual caveats apply, i.e the nice salary computer touchers can potentially make after they invest ten years in training up doesn't make up for the soul sucking void of interminable bullshit meetings, management consultants, and the intense knowledge that you're working on ad-tech bullshit that will actively make the world worse. And everyone is in a race to offshore/automate all the roles so salary will be 'normalised' to be a crap as everywhere else within the next 10 years or so anyway.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

The lib dems don't actually want to stop brexit, they want rejoining the EU to be their powerful political project for the next 15 years, get on my level this is conspiracy theory crap but it's also 100% whats actually happening.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

ThomasPaine posted:

labour coming down on him legitimised the smear. Had the party backed him up and more generally took a more aggressive line towards the AS allegations (telling people to gently caress off where they're obviously being disingenuous) I think we'd be in a much stronger position.
In hindsight yes, although I can see where the party were coming from trying to treat accusations of AS sensitively. I'm not sure anyone could have seen how far this bullshit would end up going.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/RobBurl/status/1182397014950252552?s=20

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

deletebeepbeepbeep posted:

I walked through Trafalgar Square today and hung out for a bit. I mean despite this thread I find it hard to dislike a bunch of people who can occupy a central part of London for several days for a good cause no matter what there methods, unless they are literal fash obviously.

The XR rank and file are generally chill peeps who are taking risk to make positive action. The issues people have are about XR's internal structure and predominantly focused around the group's leadership.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
xr might wind up being the peaceful protest that gets cracked down on hard enough to radicalise a bunch of people but I genuinely doubt it. a boot stomping on your face isn’t so bad if you love the taste.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

So when are we going to do the Great Goon Poll for accurate data?

Ask 10 workplace people, randoms, anyone who you can confidently say you don't know their voting intention - and collate the data. I feel this is the only true way to know what the United Kingdom thinks. Then we can gently caress off YouGov and all other tainted sources.

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

Rarity posted:

The XR rank and file are generally chill peeps who are taking risk to make positive action. The issues people have are about XR's internal structure and predominantly focused around the group's leadership.

Roger is (or was) a frequent visitor of ours.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

ThomasPaine posted:

My instinct is that he poorly worded a basically sound point, and that labour coming down on him legitimised the smear. Had the party backed him up and more generally took a more aggressive line towards the AS allegations (telling people to gently caress off where they're obviously being disingenuous) I think we'd be in a much stronger position.

The problem was more that he was directly contradicting the party line, which was already trying to manage the antisemitism stuff as carefully as it could. He outright said "we've been too apologetic" etc which is both undermining the leadership and the work people had been doing, and throwing more fuel on the fire - which is exactly why it was filmed and put out in public, because it would cause more trouble for Labour

However right he was, he has a responsibility not to go around saying whatever he feels like in public when it's gonna cause these kinds of issues. It's not really surprising the leadership didn't completely abandon their approach and swoop in to defend him - if they felt they could pivot they'd have done it already. I don't know about the suspension, but as an MP (and one friendly to Corbyn at that) he definitely hosed up and forced Labour to make a choice

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Bobby Deluxe posted:

It's a loving trap and he stepped into it, but honestly I don't really see how it's possible for a Labour MP to make a statement about it and not gently caress both themself and the party.

The only way is to call it as the smear campaign it is and go guns blazing 'if our detractors actually cared about protecting vulnerable minority groups they would address X-example-of-the-horrific-poo poo-they-are-doing-to-disabled-people' is the most obvious and actually noble example. The antisemitism crap is cynical bollocks, it's a continuation of their previous smear campaigns and anyone with a moral core and half a brain rolls their eyes when they see the latest headline saying 'some board of deputies oval office slams corbyn' or some arsehole columnist drops a 'of course labour would know a lot about scapegoating' line in their latest effluence. Stop giving it any legitimacy, just drop the stats factsheet and call them lying little cunts.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Vitamin P posted:

The lib dems don't actually want to stop brexit, they want rejoining the EU to be their powerful political project for the next 15 years, get on my level this is conspiracy theory crap but it's also 100% whats actually happening.

Their inability to fashion a platform outside of the UKs relationship to the EU absolutely means this will happen but they will also see the popularity of trying to rejoin the EU when it means the Euro and no rebate so they're digging their own grave while also dragging the rest of the country along with them.

Because they are also Tories you see.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Bobby Deluxe posted:

In hindsight yes, although I can see where the party were coming from trying to treat accusations of AS sensitively. I'm not sure anyone could have seen how far this bullshit would end up going.

We all knew how far it was going to go and the labour leadership's commitment to arguing in good faith with an enemy that has zero interest in doing so has been a consistent failure on their part, and this is coming from someone who is broadly very pro-corbyn

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.
A collection of things the police have seized from XR protestors in London

Yes that is a wheelchair

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

namesake posted:

Their inability to fashion a platform outside of the UKs relationship to the EU absolutely means this will happen but they will also see the popularity of trying to rejoin the EU when it means the Euro and no rebate so they're digging their own grave while also dragging the rest of the country along with them.

Because they are also Tories you see.

After Corbyn did his big upset Blair wrote this thing like 'I don't understand the British people anymore' and it was funny because 100% of the new voting demographics, that had honestly a very minor voting impact, were demographics New Labour created themselves, by cultivating inequality they created their own bizarre monsters.

You're dead right it's the same with the Lib Dems, they are making these lovely choices based on the current circumstances and not thinking about the possible negative knock-on effects. It's just like the coalition; the most pro-EU party did some despicable loving austerity, made everyone hate the status quo and them in particular, and then because the superstructure is anti-left that energy had to go somewhere so it went to brexit and the Lib Dems got owned.

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Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



PST posted:

A collection of things the police have seized from XR protestors in London

Yes that is a wheelchair



thats actually the same policeman, just 10 years apart.

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