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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/MediocreDave/status/1182404265811349518?s=20 I agree though I have heard it argued that the pro-police messaging is a deliberate strategy and shouldn't necessarily be taken at face value.
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ThomasPaine posted:I agree though I have heard it argued that the pro-police messaging is a deliberate strategy and shouldn't necessarily be taken at face value. Well I'd certainly agree it's a deliberate strategy, but other than trying to "sanitise" protest for middle class liberals I don't really see what the goal is. They can't seriously think they'll win over the police to their side.
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Rarity posted:Pidcock's been on my radar since she stepped into Parliament Unfortunately I live just outside Laura's constituency, which is a shame because I'd much rather be voting for her than this utter melt. She's definitely a good candidate for a future party leader, although I don't think she should be the next one. Would much rather see her gain more experience and build up the party support needed to be an effective premier.
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forkboy84 posted:Well I'd certainly agree it's a deliberate strategy, but other than trying to "sanitise" protest for middle class liberals I don't really see what the goal is. They can't seriously think they'll win over the police to their side. i assume you're out there and protesting in the correct way
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forkboy84 posted:Well I'd certainly agree it's a deliberate strategy, but other than trying to "sanitise" protest for middle class liberals I don't really see what the goal is. They can't seriously think they'll win over the police to their side. Wouldn’t the point be to show that no matter how amenable and polite they are, they will still get their heads cracked and therefore justify more aggressive methods?
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That Italian Guy posted:It looks like the person arrested for the stabbing is white, so we'll see if the "potential terrorism threat" gets downgraded to "a lone wolf with mental problems" in a bit. Ore will be soon
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Oct 11, 2019 14:42
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I got a personal, behind the scenes, after hours tour of Parliament yesterday from a friend who works there. Got to touch Bercow's chair and saw his car. Didn't see any MPs or noncing or MPs doing noncing but it's a hell of a building and really worth visiting. Got a sneak preview of his LGBT-centric tour material that they're apparently working on.
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forkboy84 posted:I don't really see what the goal is. They can't seriously think they'll win over the police to their side. Perhaps they think that when the coppers inevitably start cracking heads, pointing to stunts like this is more likely to win over public opinion?
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Oct 11, 2019 14:44
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forkboy84 posted:https://twitter.com/MediocreDave/status/1182404265811349518?s=20 Humanising the people who maintain repressive structures and reminding them of their individuality is an excellent thing though. It doesn’t eliminate the possibility that the police will go in heavy handed but that doesn’t make it stupid or useless.
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Vlex posted:Got a sneak preview of his LGBT-centric tour material that they're apparently working on. You walk in, do a 180 around a pillar and leave again?
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That Italian Guy posted:It looks like the person arrested for the stabbing is white, so we'll see if the "potential terrorism threat" gets downgraded to "a lone wolf with mental problems" in a bit. This video got his face, he doesn't look like someone the Police would consider as 'mentally ill' https://twitter.com/flintbedrock/status/1182614268467920896
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Oct 11, 2019 14:48
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Ratjaculation posted:You walk in, do a 180 around a pillar and leave again? Most of it seemed to be "King such and such had sexy parties and sometimes dressed like a woman but how can we really know what sexual orientation they were?"
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xtothez posted:This video got his face, he doesn't look like someone the Police would consider as 'mentally ill' Welp I guess that settles it then, it was a terrism, good job lads
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Beefeater1980 posted:Humanising the people who maintain repressive structures and reminding them of their individuality is an excellent thing though. Cops will always choose the state over the individual
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chird posted:My own mother just sent me a super racist joke about black people. I said it was offensive and racist and she was like 'what's the difference between saying that and saying us Scots are all drunks?' "White people stereotyping other white people is not a sufficient reason to be racist towards PoC, who aren't even involved here."
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"Looks like we chalk it up to urban youth lads." But he was 40. And worked in IT. "URBAN. YOUTHS."
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xcheopis posted:"White people stereotyping other white people is not a sufficient reason to be racist towards PoC, who aren't even involved here." Yeah, basically there's a difference between ribbing between countries on equal standing on making GBS threads on a group who still have bootmarks visible on their backs.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:It was, he licked it and then politely declined any further offers. Proof that Pickled Onion is not good. Good doggo 13/10
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That Italian Guy posted:Unless ofc he is a light shade of non-white, in which case it's going to be a terrorist 100%. Ding ding ding.
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Rarity posted:Cops will always choose the state over the individual Maybe so, but hardly relevant; the goal of the protests is to get the state to address climate change.
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radmonger posted:Maybe so, but hardly relevant; the goal of the protests is to get the state to address climate change. You have no loving clue how protesting works
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Boris Johnson is definitely in the ra. I really do wonder how ceding BRITISH TERRITORY will play with the loony nationalist faction of the tory base.
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Well it's not like the DUP actually matter any more and so long as Boris goes into an election after 31st having left some part of the EU then it's all golden for him.
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namesake posted:Well it's not like the DUP actually matter any more and so long as Boris goes into an election after 31st having left some part of the EU then it's all golden for him. If he loses the dup votes where are the rest coming from to have it pass parliament?
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Alternatively I wonder exactly how many more planks you can remove from the platform of the conservative and unionist party in the effort to chase the brexit vote. At this rate it's going to be boris johnson levitating ten feet in the air screaming brexit at the top of his lungs and nothing else.
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Jose posted:If he loses the dup votes where are the rest coming from to have it pass parliament? Labour melts who love compromise for its own sake
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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OwlFancier posted:Boris Johnson is definitely in the ra. About 50/50 odds that gammons won't care because Norn Iron is a desolate faraway place they don't associate any nationalistic feelings with.
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suck my woke dick posted:About 50/50 odds that gammons won't care because Norn Iron is a desolate faraway place they don't associate any nationalistic feelings with. Oh yes for some of them sure, it's just funny considering all the things that say, two years ago would have been considered unthinkable for the tories politically 
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namesake posted:Well it's not like the DUP actually matter any more and so long as Boris goes into an election after 31st having left some part of the EU then it's all golden for him. if anything the DUP matter even more because if Boris doesn't get their votes he needs all the Tories plus all the ex-Tory independents plus all the Libs plus the usual Labour wankers plus one or two others to get a deal through Parliament suck my woke dick posted:Labour melts who love compromise for its own sake who mysteriously all didn't vote for May's deal any of the times it was proposed
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OwlFancier posted:At this rate it's going to be boris johnson levitating ten feet in the air screaming brexit at the top of his lungs and nothing else. Sounds like you missed their latest conference
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Bobby Deluxe posted:It was, he licked it and then politely declined any further offers. happyhippy posted:Proof that Pickled Onion is not good. [Laughs in adobe audition]
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Xpost from climate change thread https://twitter.com/ArtyBagger/status/1182296038394269696 Roofurs.
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Whatever happens in the next election it's hard to imagine where the tories can really go politically. If they end up brexiting it's not going to solve any problems and they're gonna get shat on for it, I don't think the labour party is going to go right wing, and they've burned all their other policies in a big pile, plus they only appeal to old nutcases anyway.JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Xpost from climate change thread Ah I have found my fursona.
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hemale in pain posted:i assume you're out there and protesting in the correct way You assume correct. Man, there's some people who get really loving testy when you point out that XR are not going about things particularly smartly and are massively naive about the state, the police, the legal system, all that. There's people out there with decades of experience in protesting, people who give up their time to give legal advice to protesters, and XR are completely ignoring them. And it is the forefront of climate protest, attracts huge numbers of first timers, so when they are basically encouraging their people to get arrested, that is not good. It is a bad message to give out. Green & Black Cross have gone into their own concerns which are worth reading Rarity posted:You have no loving clue how protesting works Probably means they are one of XR's main organisers then. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Oct 11, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:Whatever happens in the next election it's hard to imagine where the tories can really go politically. If they end up brexiting it's not going to solve any problems and they're gonna get shat on for it, I don't think the labour party is going to go right wing, and they've burned all their other policies in a big pile, plus they only appeal to old nutcases anyway. People who are really gung-ho for Brexit aren't that way because they have actual problems (or rather the problems they do have generally aren't the reason they're so gung-ho for Brexit). The warm smug glow they feel about TAKING BACK CONTROL will allow them to completely ignore the devastation of the country in the exact same way centrists felt in 2012.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:People who are really gung-ho for Brexit aren't that way because they have actual problems (or rather the problems they do have generally aren't the reason they're so gung-ho for Brexit). The warm smug glow they feel about TAKING BACK CONTROL will allow them to completely ignore the devastation of the country in the exact same way centrists felt in 2012. I'm not so sure about that, especially as everyone else is going to be in full revenge mode and that proportion is only going to get bigger over time. The US has the same problem with trump but the difference is that there the dems are systemically hosed too because they're full of people who fundamentally only have aesthetic disagreements with trump. But the republicans are still pursuing this dwindling demographic and don't have any coherent plan for the future, the left has lots of places it can go if it can overcome its systemic lock out from the process, and the UK has a signficiant head start on that with the labour party. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 11, 2019 |
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