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Arivia posted:I feel like you just made a big mistake with Unsanctioned coming up The first two Un-sets were only good to read the spoilers of. You chuckle at the jokes, then move on. Actually playing was garbage. I was around then and did draft/sealed with both of them. The last one was at least focused on trying to have good gameplay, but like Cactrot said it really wears thin very fast. It was a fun draft set once, started losing its appeal the second time, and I have zero interest in doing anything related to it again in the near future.
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Cactrot posted:Wacky funtime nonsense wears out it's welcome and becomes repetitive and boring really quick. It was incredibly well received.
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Oct 12, 2019 02:41
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Unsanctioned will live or die based on whether or not we get a card called "Look At Me, I'm Play Design", because Unstable hosed that up by not being self-deprecating at all
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Oct 12, 2019 02:53
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Silhouette posted:Unsanctioned will live or die based on whether or not we get a card called "Look At Me, I'm Play Design", because Unstable hosed that up by not being self-deprecating at all Amateur Auteur was pretty self-deprecating. Also Very Cryptic Command. Oh, and Spike's one big joke about how broken Phyrexian mana was.
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Oct 12, 2019 03:05
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Anyone make the journey from Timmy to Johnny to Spike to some unholy Timmy-Spike hybrid? Functional reprint the original Moxes with a mana cost of PP each. That's right, each one costs 4 life, no mana can be paid for them. And they're legendary. Lotus too. Call it Death Lotus. Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Oct 12, 2019 |
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Oct 12, 2019 03:15
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Tubgoat posted:Anyone make the journey from Timmy to Johnny to Spike to some unholy Timmy-Spike hybrid? I went from Johnny to Spike to Johnny-Spike when I played Modern, and then was some weird Johnny-Timmy hybrid when I started playing EDH. Over time I feel I'm mostly a Mel-Spike. Also, I unironically want those Moxes. Hell they could cost PPPP each and I'd still run them.
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Oct 12, 2019 03:25
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https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=23333&f=MO gently caress me, they're loving banning Mox Opal even though Urza is clearly the goddamned problem.
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Oct 12, 2019 03:59
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Unstable is fun to draft, but it does have some big problems. A few of the contraptions are game ending bombs, and if you get one it's fairly trivial to end up with like five plus cards that fetch it into play. Also unstable is extremely parasitic, so it doesn't really work well for chaos. However at least it doesn't have a 2/2 protection from everything at common.
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Oct 12, 2019 04:04
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Tubgoat posted:https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=23333&f=MO Maybe they’ll be smart and ban astrolabe
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Oct 12, 2019 04:20
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There are some rares and mythics in Unstable that are just way too good, which makes some matches huge bummers when it just comes down to one player or the other ripping their unbeatable bomb. Like I had a draft where I had the aforementioned Dr. Julius Jumblemorph, and any time I drew that card I just couldn't lose, because there wasn't enough removal that could get rid of it to make up for the times where either it comes out turn 4 and then wins the game turn 5, or when it stays in hand until it and a host can be cast in a row, resulting in two game-ending threats.
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Oct 12, 2019 04:20
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Tubgoat posted:It was incredibly well received. how much of that was the basics?
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Oct 12, 2019 04:24
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Entropic posted:how much of that was the basics? About one per pack.
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Oct 12, 2019 05:09
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Apparently if you exile a card with adventure with robber of the reach, you can cast the adventure half, and then you, not the cards owner can cast the creature?
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Oct 12, 2019 05:18
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Cactrot posted:Apparently if you exile a card with adventure with robber of the reach, you can cast the adventure half, and then you, not the cards owner can cast the creature? quote:Instead of putting a spell that was cast as an Adventure into its owner’s graveyard as it resolves, its controller exiles it. For as long as that card remains exiled, that player may cast it. It can’t be cast as an Adventure this way, although other effects that allow a player to cast it may allow a player to cast it as an Adventure. The person casting the adventure controls it, so they're the ones who have it in exile.
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Yeah that's how it was explained to me, and it won me a match but it still seems bonkers even if it works under the rules. Edit: it's even in the Oracle rulings for robber, guess I never looked. quote:If you cast an Adventure with Robber of the Rich, it’s you, not the card’s owner, who may cast the creature later. Cactrot fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Oct 12, 2019 |
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Oct 12, 2019 06:08
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Cactrot posted:Yeah that's how it was explained to me, and it won me a match but it still seems bonkers even if it works under the rules. Your opponent still owns it in exile, but you're the one who's allowed to cast it. In theory you could process it into their graveyard (but why would you do that)
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Oct 12, 2019 06:13
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eldraine limited sucks but it sucks in a way that generates extremely funny and interesting situations, like this one: so my u/b control deck has stabilised ('''stabilised''') on 1 life with a clackbridge troll and a revenge of ravens playing defense. my opponent, who is also on 1 life, has a bunch of dorky creatures, a 3/2, a crystal slipper and a fling in hand. my opponent flings their 3/2 at me. i crack my golden egg for life in response, going to 1 again. if my opponent had attempted to equip the crystal slipper first, i could cast So Tiny to shrink the 3/2 in response to the equip trigger, forcing them to fling without the power boost anyway. the part where this board state took seventeen or so turns to materialise and that this wasn't the slowest game i've played tonight (that would be the one where i nearly beat a resolved outlaw's merriment by naturally decking the opponent) says a lot about this format
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Oct 12, 2019 13:00
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I am enjoying it a whole lot, honestly, even the long grindy games. The grindy ones are better than turn 1 Fervent Champion turn 2 Steelclaw Lance (when I'm on tne receiving end). Murderous Rider tucking on death was a smart decision.
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Oct 12, 2019 13:51
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ungulateman posted:eldraine limited sucks but it sucks in a way that generates extremely funny and interesting situations, like this one: yeah, it says it's really really good
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Oct 12, 2019 15:50
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Lone Goat posted:it's really really good
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Oct 12, 2019 16:45
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I dunno where I fall on Eldraine yet. On one hand, the games almost always goes long unless someone at the table gets the turbo optimized R/B Knights deck ( at which point they usually get a very free win in the pod because Eldraine's midrange is both mediocre and punished by all the other decks trying to go over the top) and none of the colors except Black are deep enough to support multiple drafters- part of the reason games get so grindy is nobody gets a way of punching through the other guy with bad draft chaff and food just compounds the problem. White in particular is very close to being undraftable as a color, with Green/White Adventure being the only remotely playable white deck in the format as far as I've seen (and that is on the caveat that they're getting to scoop up some decent payoffs like Lucky Clover and Innkeeper.) On the other hand, Eldraine has some of the best on-board interactions and decision making when it isn't just two players staring at each other with garbage waiting for some topdeck to save the day. There's a lot of cool decks that actually work in the format like the Adventure deck, or the food synergy deck, or the second card deck because the support is actually there and actually good. The biggest whiff is probably Knight tribal, but even R/B makes it work as it's creature base backed with enough removal and key uncommons. The problems with color depth can make these decks difficult to assemble, but they're a lot of fun when you get them.
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Oct 12, 2019 17:54
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Why does SCG have the best coverage DUO only to swap them out each round with one of the worst?
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Sickening posted:Why does SCG have the best coverage DUO only to swap them out each round with one of the worst? Name names
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Oct 12, 2019 18:01
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fadam posted:Name names Anybody + Ryan Overturf.
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Oct 12, 2019 18:14
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Sickening posted:Anybody + Ryan Overturf. Still better than Emma Handy and the hat wearing guy
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Oct 12, 2019 19:32
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Sam Black just stated "there's a greater than 50% chance Oko is the most powerful planeswalker ever printed" so... There's that.
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Oct 12, 2019 21:24
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Been playing Eldraine sealed for a good check of the day at GP Utrecht. I think the OT click went to 30 minutes after every round. Format seems to stall but also provide ways to break through, and there are explosive agro plays for knights. But after registering a guys pool with Muderous Rider and Bonecrusher Giant, I got the blue fairy mythic and little else of note. I went mill for the first time ever, like a drat animal.
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Oct 12, 2019 21:27
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I like cedric phillips saying the ban announcement could be a juke. That would be hilarious.
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Oct 12, 2019 21:27
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ShaneB posted:Sam Black just stated "there's a greater than 50% chance Oko is the most powerful planeswalker ever printed" so... There's that. I'm looking forward to the metagame shifting from "how do you fight fields" to "how do you fight Oko"
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Oct 12, 2019 21:36
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Why on the broadcast is there an 11 next to jonathan hobbs' name and a 27 next to dylan hand's? It's above their records.
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Oct 12, 2019 21:56
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ilmucche posted:Why on the broadcast is there an 11 next to jonathan hobbs' name and a 27 next to dylan hand's? It's above their records. Probably their position on the SCG point leaderboard.
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Oct 12, 2019 21:59
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I'm looking forward to the metagame shifting from "how do you fight fields" to "how do you fight Oko" Multiple copies of Fry in the sideboard.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:03
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Whoever "fixed" Skullclamp at the last second also "fixed" Oko.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:06
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Mat Cauthon posted:Multiple copies of Fry in the sideboard. Fry doesn't deal with the Oko cleanly. Usually he hits the board makes a food, and then sits at 6 loyalty. Noxious grasp on the other hand... 
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Sickening posted:Anybody + Ryan Overturf. A fun story is that at the most recent SCG Dallas, my buddies and I were bar hopping on Sunday night, probably around two a.m., and we ran into Patrick Sullivan, Ross Merriam, Ryan Overturf and a couple other notables whose names I forget and they were all sloppy drunk. I managed to get a pickup game of pool vs Ross and utterly rinsed him while Patrick commentated mostly making fun of him, and Overturf was so slammed he literally couldn't stand up or talk. It was, by far, the most entertaining I have ever found Ryan Overturf to be Anyway, Oko is not really comparable to Field in terms of the "how do I fight it" question imo given that they've also printed the best hero's downfall variant and we already have noxious grasp. I mostly agree that it's a top 5 all-time planeswalker but as far as standard goes it's much easier to counter-play than Field
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Oct 12, 2019 22:27
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oko's also a lot easier to deal with when it comes down off the top. not that he's not amazing, and probably in contention for top five all time walkers, but the nightmare oko scenario is coming down turn 2 or 3 on the play. if you already have a board he's a lot less threatening.
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Oct 12, 2019 22:28
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I'm looking forward to the metagame shifting from "how do you fight fields" to "how do you fight Oko" Conclave Tribunal, Prison Realm, Elderspell, Fry, Big Chandra, Murderous Rider
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Oct 12, 2019 22:39
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:I'm looking forward to the metagame shifting from "how do you fight fields" to "how do you fight Oko" yea simic is going to go buck wild if field/golos is the only ban. Ate My Balls Redux posted:Conclave Tribunal, Prison Realm, Elderspell, Fry, Big Chandra, Murderous Rider ok i spent a bunch of mana to answer their turn 2/3 play that has already gotten value. then they untapped again and cast nissa what do i do now
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Oct 12, 2019 22:54
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I was maindecking Noxious Grasp for a while in the last standard. It might be time to do that again.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Still better than Emma Handy and the hat wearing guy Emma and Matthias are my favorite commentary duo. (Cedric and Patrick are pretty great though.) Dav fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Oct 12, 2019 |
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