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Lightning Knight: Feb 24, 2012; Pray for Answer

iirc I feel like I read something about early opposition among Soviet leadership to certain scientific fields because they viewed them as unimportant or as somehow tainted by western propaganda, but that memory is very hazy so I may not be relating that idea correctly.

I feel like this conversation can�t really occur without acknowledging that we beat the Soviets to the moon because the CIA assassinated Soviet scientists lol.

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# ? May 11, 2024 14:10

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

the CIA didn't put korolev in the gulags or make chelomey a gigantic rear end in a top hat

# ? Oct 12, 2019 03:42

Lightning Knight: Feb 24, 2012; Pray for Answer

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the CIA didn't put korolev in the gulags or make chernko a gigantic rear end in a top hat

ok, fair

# ? Oct 12, 2019 03:43

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

as far as the state department ploy, not every protester or every protest with U.S. meddling is entirely product of the U.S. intelligence apparatus but it's not hard to find the records, with protest leaders having built up a resume via work for U.S. funded think tanks and CIA cutouts and have a direct line in with the media most americans consume on a daily basis and which shapes their view of the situation. the fortunate thing is that this will likely not escalate to the level of a ukraine or georgia color revolution, but will just remain focused on stirring up instability in the context of the trade war, with support declining over time as the protests fade out. then there will be editorials in D.C. magazines like The National Interest and in the NYT editorial section wondering why the U.S. "abandoned" hong kong while not correcting all the articles being published now denying U.S. involvement at all

I've proven incapable of understanding what the hell is going on in China because I honestly have my interests in mind here at home, in the United States, and there's simply too many things to worry about (transgender rights, right-to-work tied to Medicaid, at-will employment) that affect my friends that I honestly can't put the good effort into it.

that being said, looking out for the traps and pratfalls the powers that be will put in the way of folks who are into Bernie and his message into cowing, dropping out, or exiting entirely do need to be looked for and excised. the last thing I want is for everything to go back the way of academia

# ? Oct 12, 2019 06:39

Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

every sacrifice was worth it because they created the ekranoplan, the coolest airplane to ever exist.

# ? Oct 12, 2019 06:52

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Finicums Wake posted:

it sucks that one of the posters who could've suggested stuff to read was run out of the forums by some guys who think making a funny post about a fart that smells like poop, playing video games, and watching anime makes them better at discerning genocides than the UN lol. i thought most of homex's takes were bad, in the sense that they were too tankie, but i liked that he could post them + would try to back them up. it'd be cool if he comes back and posts again just w/o the admin/mod stuff. if not, someone invite me to the rhizzone so they can tell me about soviet technological developemnt thanks

it wasnt the fyad guys (correctly, it has to be said) saying he shouldn't be lovely when hes an admin and cant get probed for it. homex has been real sick of dealing with the liberal crocodile tears brigade for a while so I think it was just a straw breaking the camel's back kind of deal

# ? Oct 12, 2019 07:05

Finicums Wake: Mar 13, 2017; Can't post for 8 years!

Larry Parrish posted:

it wasnt the fyad guys (correctly, it has to be said) saying he shouldn't be lovely when hes an admin and cant get probed for it. homex has been real sick of dealing with the liberal crocodile tears brigade for a while so I think it was just a straw breaking the camel's back kind of deal

fair enough. i have literally no opinions on his being an admin, just thought he was a good poster to have around

# ? Oct 12, 2019 12:22

3: Aug 26, 2006; The Magic Number; College Slice

critical support for r. guyovich

shoulda perma'd pick and/or hamprince on yr way out tho

# ? Oct 12, 2019 16:03

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

Karl Barks posted:

The space race was the public marketing side of the ICBM race, and Russia made way more nuclear weapons than the US did. Consumer goods didn't receive the same level, except maybe in the Kruschev era. PCs are basically consumer goods

just grabbed this off wikipedia, but it matches my memory that the USSR was far behind the US in nuclear weapons production and ICBMs until at least the Johnson Administration. At the time of the moon landing in 1969, it seems like the USA still outgunned the USSR by number of warheads, launchers, and total megatonnage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_arms_race

# ? Oct 12, 2019 18:49

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

3 posted:

critical support for r. guyovich

shoulda perma'd pick and/or hamprince on yr way out tho

i think hamprince got out of a perma before, some turds just won't flush

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:20

Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

Bryter posted:

i think hamprince got out of a perma before, some turds just won't flush

iirc people on cspam raised money so he could get a long rear end probe

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:42

Karl Barks: Jan 21, 1981

it was every dollar was a day of probation, so I did what needed to happen and gave $50 to some liberal charity

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:46

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Posters kowtowing to liberal institutions to probe hamprince: mission accomplished

# ? Oct 13, 2019 00:56

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hes so loving bad and the majority of the sub forum at least in threads I read are like Increasingly Disillusioned Liberals and people like Plutonis and he comes here to post about how Thing Are Alright Actually. We have a whole forum for the libs and they just wont stfu.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 02:02

Dreddout: Oct 1, 2015; You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Homeless Friend posted:

Posters kowtowing to liberal institutions to probe hamprince: mission accomplished

Iirc it was a charity of hamprince's choice too

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:23

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

where do people go for leftist perspectives on geopolitics/random countries and whats going on there. like if i wanted to know whats up in for eg, armenia, whats my options. jacobin?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:24

Poniard: Apr 3, 2011

cspam

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:28

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Poniard posted:

cspam

if you see something, post something - cspam creedo

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:32

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1183206640369242112?s=20

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:51

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

mila kunis posted:

where do people go for leftist perspectives on geopolitics/random countries and whats going on there. like if i wanted to know whats up in for eg, armenia, whats my options. jacobin?

Revleft

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:52

mila kunis: Jun 10, 2011

mila kunis posted:

where do people go for leftist perspectives on geopolitics/random countries and whats going on there. like if i wanted to know whats up in for eg, armenia, whats my options. jacobin?

i just googled jacobin armenia and got this

quote:

In a speech he delivered to the parliament shortly before he was elected prime minister Pashinyan stated that he was “beyond ideology.” In reality, the pledges of his government have shown the new regime to be firmly within the tradition of European liberalism: promising free, fair, and transparent elections, alongside the dismantling of corrupt state structures and economic monopolies and their replacement with meritocratic institutions and market mechanisms.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:52

THS: Sep 15, 2017

find the subreddit for whatever nation you are curious about, and take the opposite view of whatever the prevailing sentiment is

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:59

Harik: Sep 9, 2001; From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars; Plaster Town Cop

Larry Parrish posted:

Hes so loving bad and the majority of the sub forum at least in threads I read are like Increasingly Disillusioned Liberals and people like Plutonis and he comes here to post about how Thing Are Alright Actually. We have a whole forum for the libs and they just wont stfu.

can't stand the idea of people disagreeing with them so they raid other forums but huddle in their own safe space where they have pet mods to probe dissent.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 04:01

Lord of Pie: Mar 2, 2007

jarofpiss posted:

if godzilla was a communist that would own

# ? Oct 13, 2019 04:30

Victory Position: Mar 16, 2004

Lord of Pie posted:

The People's Kaiju

# ? Oct 13, 2019 05:09

Larry Parrish: Jul 9, 2012; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

wish godzilla would melt the rich with his nuclear breath tbh. maybe i could get an apartment then

# ? Oct 13, 2019 10:02

BrutalistMcDonalds: Oct 4, 2012; Lipstick Apathy

it's never too late to get into godzilla

# ? Oct 13, 2019 11:04

Plutonis: Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1183391528238104579

# ? Oct 13, 2019 18:18

Raskolnikov38: Mar 3, 2007; We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Plutonis posted:

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1183391528238104579

john can we talk about that Belize citizen you murdered while on bath salts

# ? Oct 13, 2019 18:23

Centrist Committee: Aug 6, 2019

Larry Parrish posted:

wish godzilla would melt the rich with his nuclear breath tbh. maybe i could get an apartment then

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bells_(Game_of_Thrones) :smug:

# ? Oct 13, 2019 19:31

Aeolius: Jul 16, 2003; Simon Templeman Fanclub

Pablo Nergigante posted:

I bought Harvey's companion to Capital to read alongside, was that a bad idea. Is there someone else who has a more orthodox interpretation I can read along with.

really i think Capital stands quite well without companion reading on the whole. which is not to say that you won't want to discuss it with people and see what others have thought and written about it, and that's a very good thing and should be encouraged. i just mean that you shouldn't look at any of these companion elements as necessary to succeed. just start on Capital on its own, and you may be surprised to find you don't hit any stumbling blocks

more broadly, if you can get through the first three chapters, you'll find the rest to be fairly breezy. working class folks in the late 19th and early 20th century were able to pick it up and roll. i tend to believe that charges of obscurantism and inconsistency were more the result of people reading complications into it that really don't belong to the text itself

that said, if you do need some assistance with that early matter in vol 1, harry cleaver's Reading Capital Politically (available on libcom) is a good close reading of the first chapter

Aeolius fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Oct 14, 2019

# ? Oct 13, 2019 22:28