Warhammer 40,000: 8th Time's the Charm

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TheBigAristotle: Feb 8, 2007; I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.; Grimey Drawer

Chainclaw posted:

I played a game with the wrong rules for the Ad-Mech Dunerider. I didn't know I needed to keep the assembly instructions, they were the only source for the official rules for the unit. Battlescribe had the wrong rules for the unit.

edit: I've been slowly working on a rules helper app for 40k and Kill Team. My fiance needed some wireframes for her portfolio, and wants to build some smart watch apps. We're starting with Kill Team because the rules are similar, and Kill Team is a bit easier. So far she's built a wireframe for the movement phase. I figured I would share if anyone has any feedback, and because I'm excited about what she's designed so far.

Never had a smartwatch, but it seems like a pretty small screen for the amount of info in the once-slimmed-down 8th edition rules

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 19:13

OhDearGodNo: Jan 3, 2014

goose willis posted:

Do you honestly need anything outside of 1d4chan tactics pages and Battlescribe

Yes. BattleScribe is horrible when it comes to describing specific rules/relics, and doesn�t go into stratagems.

The latter I suppose can be fixed with datacards, however to be honest I always try to use them but end up just having the book list of stratagems for reference.

Having a physical book is also helpful because I can make FAQ scribbles and adjustments, I have never checked enhanced versions of digital copies however I don�t think those are always updated.

I do use BattleScribe for list building, however not for actually figuring out how I want to flavor it.

# ? Oct 12, 2019 20:51

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

Chainclaw posted:

I played a game with the wrong rules for the Ad-Mech Dunerider. I didn't know I needed to keep the assembly instructions, they were the only source for the official rules for the unit. Battlescribe had the wrong rules for the unit.

edit: I've been slowly working on a rules helper app for 40k and Kill Team. My fiance needed some wireframes for her portfolio, and wants to build some smart watch apps. We're starting with Kill Team because the rules are similar, and Kill Team is a bit easier. So far she's built a wireframe for the movement phase. I figured I would share if anyone has any feedback, and because I'm excited about what she's designed so far.

I have usability concerns about this but it's a neat idea

goose willis posted:

Do you honestly need anything outside of 1d4chan tactics pages and Battlescribe

Yes I too love my tactics to be poorly written and interspersed with rape jokes by people with no idea what they're talking about screaming disagreements with each other

# ? Oct 12, 2019 20:58

Aleth: Aug 2, 2008; Pillbug

TheBigAristotle posted:

Never had a smartwatch, but it seems like a pretty small screen for the amount of info in the once-slimmed-down 8th edition rules

I could see it working on a tablet or something but yeah, I think a smartwatch screen is far too small for something like that to be practical.

# ? Oct 12, 2019 20:59

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

There was a guy on reddit doing Warcry-style cards for Kill Team with the aim of doing simple visual representations. Could be interesting to look at for what you're trying to do.
https://www.reddit.com/r/killteam/comments/dc3m5m/update_3_final_designs_of_my_custom_kill_cards/

# ? Oct 12, 2019 21:08

Foul Ole Ron: Jan 6, 2005; All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!; Fun Shoe

To the goon hammer crew, seriously well bloody done. Great site, great content, please keep it up.

# ? Oct 12, 2019 22:10

JIZZ DENOUEMENT: Oct 3, 2012; STRIKE!

Foul Ole Ron posted:

To the goon hammer crew, seriously well bloody done. Great site, great content, please keep it up.

I'd also love to see more articles like: "Explain basic probability, and how it impacts [commonly questioned topic]"

# ? Oct 12, 2019 22:49

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

After months of procrastination I've got myself a squad of colourful catachans painted up. :toot:

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:08

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Free rules compiled in one massive file with proper hyper links and have your awesome models sell the game.

Or whatever the current bullshit is I don�t have shares so whatever.

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:09

Der Waffle Mous: Nov 27, 2009; In the grim future, there is only commerce.

the goonhammer article about terrain setup helped immensely today.

to bad it was ruined by my deciding to try out the iron hands rules on a lark and somehow won before I even took my second turn.

I didn't even use any of the crazy stuff just lots of vehicles with lieutenants.

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:18

Dawgstar: Jul 15, 2017

Groetgaffel posted:

After months of procrastination I've got myself a squad of colourful catachans painted up.

Oh, nice. What are they made from?

# ? Oct 12, 2019 23:18

moths: Aug 25, 2004; I would also still appreciate some danger.

Am I getting Berensta/ein Bears or was this new Eldar Psychic Awakening supplement originally supposed to be an expansion for every army?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 00:55

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

moths posted:

Am I getting Berensta/ein Bears or was this new Eldar Psychic Awakening supplement originally supposed to be an expansion for every army?

No, there are multiple supplements over the campaign.

If the rumours (which have been pretty accurate thus far) are to be believed, we will get various imperial versus various xenos boxes to accompany new supplements much like this one.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 00:57

Safety Factor: Oct 31, 2009; Grimey Drawer

moths posted:

Am I getting Berensta/ein Bears or was this new Eldar Psychic Awakening supplement originally supposed to be an expansion for every army?

There's a bunch more books coming. Each will likely only focus on a couple factions at a time so we just have to be patient. I think the next one is rumored to involve the Black Templars and some kind of enemy (chaos marines?), but we'll probably find out for sure soon enough.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 00:58

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Safety Factor posted:

There's a bunch more books coming. Each will likely only focus on a couple factions at a time so we just have to be patient. I think the next one is rumored to involve the Black Templars and some kind of enemy (chaos marines?), but we'll probably find out for sure soon enough.

Yeah. Templars v Chaos. BA v nids. Wolves v Orks.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 00:59

moths: Aug 25, 2004; I would also still appreciate some danger.

Ok cool. I wonder if they're going to just put out web supplements for some of the other armies, because otherwise this is going to be something like an eight book series.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 01:05

Stephenls: Feb 21, 2013; [REDACTED]

moths posted:

Ok cool. I wonder if they're going to just put out web supplements for some of the other armies, because otherwise this is going to be something like an eight book series.

It is probably going to be something like an eight book series.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 01:08

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Stephenls posted:

It is probably going to be something like an eight book series.

I don't mind this that much. I'm already carting around space marines and a supplement. It's not all that bad (as long as your club keeps FAQ and errata stuff).

# ? Oct 13, 2019 01:09

TheChirurgeon: Aug 7, 2002; Remember how good you are; Taco Defender

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

I'd also love to see more articles like: "Explain basic probability, and how it impacts [commonly questioned topic]"

You're in luck: I already wrote that - https://www.goonhammer.com/getting-better-at-warhammer-40000-understanding-probability/

# ? Oct 13, 2019 02:28

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

Dawgstar posted:

Oh, nice. What are they made from?

The Necromunda Escher box.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 02:37

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

I'd also love to see more articles like: "Explain basic probability, and how it impacts [commonly questioned topic]"

TheChirurgeon started that, and then I turned it into a weekly column.

If you have any ideas for a topic please let me know.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 02:40

JIZZ DENOUEMENT: Oct 3, 2012; STRIKE!

Exactly boys, that�s the good stuff.

Especially the easily digestible �so what� stuff. Like the graphic you made of the space marines charging the tau and showing the different %s.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:27

JIZZ DENOUEMENT: Oct 3, 2012; STRIKE!

Dawgstar posted:

Oh, nice. What are they made from?

Seconding this, what did you make those baller Carachan conversions out of? Escher Gang + 1 catachan lasgun arm?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 03:29

goose willis: Jun 14, 2015; Get ready for teh wacky laughz0r!

Has anyone considered forking the 1d4chan tactics section and as a collaborative effort, remove all the rape jokes and keep the useful portions while rewriting the more ambiguous or bad parts? I mean you basically have an entire strategy guide written right there, and not ALL of it is terrible, it's a good core for something with some teamwork.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 06:11

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

It's mostly terrible or wrong or not up to date thanks to FAQs and points costs.

Just wait for Goonhammer to do an actually good article.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 06:23

BIG MEATY SHITS: Mar 13, 2017; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN; Soiled Meat

isnt that all goonhammer is?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 06:23

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

goose willis posted:

Has anyone considered forking the 1d4chan tactics section and as a collaborative effort, remove all the rape jokes and keep the useful portions while rewriting the more ambiguous or bad parts? I mean you basically have an entire strategy guide written right there, and not ALL of it is terrible, it's a good core for something with some teamwork.

Plagiarism is still plagiarism and while we're making our own version in the start competing articles there's going to be a preference for working from scratch for the authors. It also suffers from multiple authors squabbling rather than there being a single cohesive vision.

If you personally find usefulness in 1d4chan tactics articles thats great but there's no moral imperative for the community to sanitize them as the one true way.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 12:07

xtothez: Jan 4, 2004; College Slice

Does anyone know if Black Templar Contrast works as a close enough replacement for Nuln Oil? I'm running low on the latter and will be getting Black Templar anyway in order to try out Contrast. Around 80% of the time I'm using Nuln Oil over Leadbelcher.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 12:20

Cooked Auto: Aug 4, 2007

xtothez posted:

Does anyone know if Black Templar Contrast works as a close enough replacement for Nuln Oil? I'm running low on the latter and will be getting Black Templar anyway in order to try out Contrast. Around 80% of the time I'm using Nuln Oil over Leadbelcher.

Try it on a random piece of sprue?

# ? Oct 13, 2019 12:23

Groetgaffel: Oct 30, 2011; Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:

Seconding this, what did you make those baller Carachan conversions out of? Escher Gang + 1 catachan lasgun arm?

Oh no, it's all straight from the Escher box. Or well, Escher boxes. You get six lasguns in a box IIRC.

I raided my bitz box and built me some officers from the spare bodies.

Company commanders. Chainsword from the cadian sprue, the extra bling shoulder pads are from the baneblade commander.

Not pictured because they're not painted yet, two platoon commanders with the regular swords you get in the Escher box and the less fancy shoulder pads with just the skull that you get with any other tank commander. Chimera, Leman Russ, Hellhound, you name it.

Gunnery sergeant Harker, bits from all over the place.

Colonel Straken. All Escher box except for the robot arm, that's the stubber pistol arm from a magos dominus with the barrel chopped of and replaced with a shotgun barrel.

E: oh and the vitally important random skull hanging from the belt is from the skull box.

Groetgaffel fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Oct 13, 2019

# ? Oct 13, 2019 12:28

xtothez: Jan 4, 2004; College Slice

Cooked Auto posted:

Try it on a random piece of sprue?

Haven't bought it yet. I'm asking if it's worth buying more nuln oil when I place the order or just saving the money.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 13:34

JBP: Feb 16, 2017; You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

xtothez posted:

Haven't bought it yet. I'm asking if it's worth buying more nuln oil when I place the order or just saving the money.

It's too dark and doesn't shade down that well unleess you're using it on the entire bit, just get more nuln oil for shading.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 13:49

OhDearGodNo: Jan 3, 2014

xtothez posted:

Haven't bought it yet. I'm asking if it's worth buying more nuln oil when I place the order or just saving the money.

It is too situational. Black Templar would be equivalent to 2-3 coats of Nuln. I wouldn�t advise getting one to do the function of both.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 13:53

Salynne: Oct 25, 2007

goose willis posted:

Has anyone considered forking the 1d4chan tactics section and as a collaborative effort, remove all the rape jokes and keep the useful portions while rewriting the more ambiguous or bad parts? I mean you basically have an entire strategy guide written right there, and not ALL of it is terrible, it's a good core for something with some teamwork.

I edited a bunch of that stuff out in the 30k articles and nobody put it back almost a whole year later for what it's worth.

It's a wiki, just edit it.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 16:21

PierreTheMime: Dec 9, 2004; Hero of hormagaunts everywhere!; Buglord

I just won a Shadowspear box at a LGS tournament and officially have no excuse not to get my Primaris army rolling. What is the current opinion of Incursors versus Infiltrators? The ignore cover and optional mine at a cheaper cost seems like the better buy but I�d like to know how they�ve worked for people.

Also Ultramarines are absolutely ruinous against GSC and I�m not sure there�s much they can do about it. Packing so many shots and being able to back out and fire just completely wrecks a T3 melee army. Their tricks did great against Astra Militarum and Harlequins but oof SM are rough.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 16:26

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

PierreTheMime posted:

I just won a Shadowspear box at a LGS tournament and officially have no excuse not to get my Primaris army rolling. What is the current opinion of Incursors versus Infiltrators? The ignore cover and optional mine at a cheaper cost seems like the better buy but I’d like to know how they’ve worked for people.

Also Ultramarines are absolutely ruinous against GSC and I’m not sure there’s much they can do about it. Packing so many shots and being able to back out and fire just completely wrecks a T3 melee army. Their tricks did great against Astra Militarum and Harlequins but oof SM are rough.

Infiltrators are pretty expensive but useful blockers. I haven't seen Incursors used much, but they seem pretty flexible for assault or shooting. In general it seems like folks prefer scouts for cheap battalion fillers or Intercessors for the flexibility.

# ? Oct 13, 2019 16:49