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Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Rarity posted:

Private business claim that Labour's plan to buy out private business is bad :thunkher:

My personal belief is that every company* in the UK, outside of the gov ofc, should be 49% -51%** worker owned, through a representative trust. You 'buy' a share in the trust after 1 year service, you 'sell' the share when you leave. Naturally there would have to be compensation for current share holders but that would be conditional on it being reinvested in the company through the representative trust, not taken as a dividend. Foreign or multinational companies would have to incorporate their holdings in the UK to be a UK ltd. Foreign profits from overseas holdings of UK companies would have to be exempt unfortunately.

*Above a certain size and age.
**Depending on the structure.

Would love to hear the CBI's take on that one.

In 1297 Edward I confirmed the Magna Carta thus putting on the path to the shower of poo poo we have now.

e: Dyslexia is a hell of thing fs

Collateral fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Oct 14, 2019

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DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
If you don't like crisp chat then just stop, drop and scroll past crisp posts or post about something else instead




I mean I'm doing the whole dilapidated streets of britain thing today instead but snackchat was going since before this thread was ever available through dnd and deserves to stay

Southend was even more loving miserable than normal today, but I did get my driving licence photocard sorted AND get a full refund on some counterfeit ukulele strings, so go me I guess

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

Posting in a thread on a dumb comedy forum is the same as having a place to live, a thing you just said. Crisp posts are poo poo but steady on.

sure they're not nearly on the same scale but it's basically saying "no we can't change this thing to be better, either deal with it exactly how it is or don't deal with it at all" which is a terrible argument whether it's a country or a forum

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010

CyberPingu posted:

If its so bad then you could just try, i dunno, not reading this thread anymore :shrug:

I guess we should all just completely remove ourselves from society because there's a couple of things in it we don't like, rather than trying to improve it. That's a real solid and positive message. Thanks.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Julio Cruz posted:

sure they're not nearly on the same scale but it's basically saying "no we can't change this thing to be better, either deal with it exactly how it is or don't deal with it at all" which is a terrible argument whether it's a country or a forum

I have the solution.





Thread poll on the November thread on if we should ban crispchat.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum
Julio enrich the thread and tell us your favorite crisps.

StarkingBarfish
Jun 25, 2006

Novus Ordo Seclorum

mehall posted:

Thread poll on the November thread to decide the best crisps/corn snacks

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

fatelvis posted:

I guess we should all just completely remove ourselves from society because there's a couple of things in it we don't like, rather than trying to improve it. That's a real solid and positive message. Thanks.

Then post something insightful to the thread as opposed to loving complaining about details.

Also a thread is something you can dip in and out of if the current discussion doesn't interest you. It doesn't have to be a binary decision

CyberPingu fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 14, 2019

Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

I see crisp chat as a necessary breathing space between the on topic discussions which by their nature can get very depressing, so um... Pickled Onion.

e: Also there's nothing stopping you from bringing something to the table you think might not have been picked up on yet in the thread and want to talk about it, but you'll have to bring nibbles of the deep fried / baked thin sliced potato variety.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
They do these paprika sticks at Budgens which just own every other crisp in existence.

Also ordinary salt and vinegar crisps suck but the pringles were great back in the early 00s when they used to burn the inside of your lips.

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
Are we saying Pringles aren't crisps here? I feel like there must be a whole load of opinions on the best flavours here because there are a lot. Personally I like the pink ones.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there
Canadian here, All-Dressed potato chips from Ruffles.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/pressgazette/status/1183736765217153024

incredible

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

quote:

Frances Crook, the chief executive of the Howard League for Penal Reform,

lmao

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I don't really engage in snackchat that much (mostly because I don't really eat crisps) but, like, I don't get being bothered by it.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Rust Martialis posted:

Canadian here, All-Dressed potato chips from Ruffles.

You have ketchup chips so I automatically discount any Canadian crisp opinions

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

OwlFancier posted:

To be honest even that seems suspect, because, like, the entire economy of the UK is a maddeningly complicated thing, the idea that anyone who doesn't make it their full time job can actually understand it seems farcical.

More important is whether we should try to make things work. I don't give a poo poo how much it costs, people should have homes and health and a loving future. The cost, simply, isn't my problem, because I don't have any of the money, once we run out of rich assholes to squeeze I might start worrying about the costs.
In terms of making the data understandable: yeah, there's too much for easy understanding. I'd think something like a summary by socially relevant sectors. Aggregate sectors in graph format, like say, a graph that contains all of NHS demand and predicted demand with NHS current funding and predicted funding with given policies, over a few years, so it's at least possible to visualise and compare the respective changes and you don't need numbers to understand it. Like, say, we know there's comparatively more people getting older because baby boom, it'd show whether governments are aware of that and planning for it in the respective sectors (they aren't, obviously). There's a question there of who produces the statistics too - it'd need to be an independent organization.

At the moment it's just a sea of numbers, and yes, it's basically pointless for anyone with other things to do to try and keep track of it - it requires specialists. Obviously the above isn't a magic bullet but it'd be a small improvement over what's currently there, and at least people would be able to see what's happening, sort of.

for the last bit, the correct answer being, of course, we do whatever is required for a high and sustainable quality of life and letting people flourish

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

But ONE complaint from a gammon about a presenter expressing an opinion, and action has to be taken

The partisanship is so naked it still shocks me sometimes, even in this crazy hellworld

HauntedRobot
Jun 22, 2002

an excellent mod
a simple map to my heart
now give me tilt shift

BBC terrible opinion legal armour is playing an imaginary theremin and passing it off as artistic license

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

painted into a coroner posted:

You have ketchup chips so I automatically discount any Canadian crisp opinions

Well you guys all rhapsodize over lovely corn chips so you really lack much of a basis to attack potato chips. Might as well be eating Pringles, more extruded garbage.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
brendan o'neill is the first person i;'ve seen who maybe has a head physically big enough for his galaxy brain takes

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

OwlFancier posted:

Does anybody not just... entirely ignore figures in relation to the government?

Because literally every figure the government uses for everything is simply "infinitely more money than I will ever see" and also entirely unrelated to all the other figures.

Figures are meaningless, it's all just big number, everything costs big number, big number good or bad depending on who is speaking at the moment, care about big number, big number important to you, person who has no context for big number, big number spent on lots of things but no spending big number on this thing, or we run out of big number.

I mean, to some extent yes, but at the same time the extent of "big number" does mean something.

"The government has said it will commit to spending £10m on [country-wide thing/problem]" means "Have a peanut, now gently caress off and shut up will you". but £10bn means some change might actually happen.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Azza Bamboo posted:

They do these paprika sticks at Budgens which just own every other crisp in existence.

Also ordinary salt and vinegar crisps suck but the pringles were great back in the early 00s when they used to burn the inside of your lips.
You're
welcome

Jose posted:

brendan o'neill is the first person i;'ve seen who maybe has a head physically big enough for his galaxy brain takes

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

ThomasPaine posted:

My friend you're allowed to ignore the snack-based posts

Let's be honest here, they're kind of difficult to ignore when they go on for pages and pages every loving week.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Rust Martialis posted:

Canadian here, All-Dressed potato chips from Ruffles.

Honestly, these are absolutely literally where somebody had a bunch of actual decent flavours of crisps and said "gently caress it" and mixed them all together. They're not unpleasant but putting them up there as your favourite flavour... man. Dill Pickle flavour crisps (another thing I think you only really get in Canada) are better.

Know what's an underrated snack that never seems to get mentioned ITT? Smiths Chipsticks. There's nothing else quite like them, they're a little greasy in a good way.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

I just get happy when spicey mix-ups are on offer for a pound a bag :shrug:

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Snack chat is boring as gently caress and consists almost entirely of the exact same people stating their exact same preference for the exact same snacks every time it comes up for pages at a time.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Just walked past the XR guys at Bank on the way back from donating blood. Absolutely pissing it down, but they still seem cheerful. Not sure they're really accomplishing much blocking though, other than bus routes.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

mehall posted:

Thread poll on the November thread on if we should ban crispchat.

Ok but if crispchat loses there will then be pages of discussion about a second vote on crispchat

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Gonzo McFee posted:

Snack chat is boring as gently caress and consists almost entirely of the exact same people stating their exact same preference for the exact same snacks every time it comes up for pages at a time.

Mexican Fiery Sweet Chipotle sensations. Taken from us too soon by the cruelty of capitalism.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Julio Cruz posted:

yeah who even needs rules in here, the main UK politics thread

might as well let Pissflaps back in here if we're arguing that changing this thread is always automatically bad


the problem is that individual posts aren't the issue, it's the way that one singular mention of any corn snack immediately devolves into several pages of "ironic" arguments

it's exactly the same every time it happens, which is all the loving time

were you also the guy who complained about the x days remaining posts and weetman posts and now crisp posts?
maybe just, i dunno, don't read the thread or skip those posts?

personally idgaf but i do feel excluded since i dont eat monsters munchs

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

But ONE complaint from a gammon about a presenter expressing an opinion, and action has to be taken

The partisanship is so naked it still shocks me sometimes, even in this crazy hellworld

did we ever find out who made the complaint? it was incredibly obviously some posho who is Important

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



Sometimes, people with anxiety post in the silly crisp chat this thread gets into because it makes them feel like they are contributing to the thread, as silly as it may seem.

Then utter cunts come along and make them feel like poo poo for daring to post.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out



:colbert:

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

They do have a point though, it's as grating as the Weetman tweets and serves no purpose to the thread. Once a year/month is enough, not every loving day.

Telling them to gently caress off is equal in parts to what you're saying you're defending, so drop it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Pointless chatter serves an important social function which is why you do it every day of your life.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Purple Club biscuits are the best ones imo

NinpoEspiritoSanto
Oct 22, 2013




sebzilla posted:

Purple Club biscuits are the best ones imo

You spelled mint wrong.

Skull Servant
Oct 25, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

Snack chat is boring as gently caress and consists almost entirely of the exact same people stating their exact same preference for the exact same snacks every time it comes up for pages at a time.

Banned in December and replaced with best sweet tin chocolate.

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TRIXNET
Jun 6, 2004

META AS FUCK.
I genuinely think all flavours of monster munch taste the same, that said I probably smoke too much and have about four functioning tastebuds.


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