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Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



hell yah eat fresh

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Centrist Committee posted:

This was my default reaction but my brain crack pinged itself into believing that the so-called deep state is moving against the executive in a way that it hasn't since they (accidentally?) shot Kennedy, and along different lines than the typical Congressional establishment faults. But the thread seems to think I'm overthinking it, fair enough!

Who would they have been trying to shoot

Feral Integral
Jun 6, 2006

YOSPOS


isnt it called HIV? I mean fucks sake its 2019

CURIOSITY OF GEESE
Jan 29, 2009

My favorite meat is hot dog, by the way. That is my favorite meat. My second favorite meat is hamburger. And, everyone says, oh, don’t you prefer steak? It’s like, I know steaks are great, but I like hot dog best, and I like hamburger next best.

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Who would they have been trying to shoot

I think that theory posits that the CIA wanted to intentionally miss JFK in order to scare him into more aggressive tactics militarily. After getting egg on their face when he wouldn't agree to Bay of pigs, they figured more intense persuasion was needed.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

The goofy version is that they were trying to kill Jackie so John could remarry

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Feral Integral posted:

isnt it called HIV? I mean fucks sake its 2019

I'm not sure what his exact status is with it but it depends on the progression- if you get treatment early enough it's just HIV and isn't as disruptive with the right (expensive) medications- AIDS is more the end stage when your body's immune system is failing which only happens if it goes untreated

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

StashAugustine posted:

The goofy version is that they were trying to kill Jackie so John could remarry

Missing out on President Grilling Dad

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
okay, I'm pretty well sold on the troika of the CIA, the mob, and the Pentagon establishment killing JFK because he was aiming for rapprochement/detente with Cuba and the USSR, but what the hell was Nixon doing that the FBI decided to turn on him?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Mark Felt had a personal vendetta against Nixon. Nixon was also too erratic and was a figure that radical movements could easily mobilize against, so the ruling class saw him as a liability.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

MizPiz posted:

After listening to the lastest stuff about Dershowitz on TrueAnon, I've come up with a hot take/theory:

Dershowitz didn't speficially rape Virginia Giuffre. While he absolutely allegedly raped other kids, none of them were Virginia. Like with the satanic panic, Virginia was convinced that one of the people was Dershowitz so that, when it turns out she's wrong, it discredits every other accusation. If it doesn't work, Dershowitz is going to be sacrificed any ways.

i believe it

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

should probably make a list of rapists and child molestors hillary is friends with or has taken money from, it could make for good propaganda

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

I'm not sure what his exact status is with it but it depends on the progression- if you get treatment early enough it's just HIV and isn't as disruptive with the right (expensive) medications- AIDS is more the end stage when your body's immune system is failing which only happens if it goes untreated

hiv is the virus and aids is the disease that it causes

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
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gh0stpinballa posted:

should probably make a list of rapists and child molestors hillary is friends with or has taken money from, it could make for good propaganda
Do it for everyone.

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Atrocious Joe posted:

Mark Felt had a personal vendetta against Nixon. Nixon was also too erratic and was a figure that radical movements could easily mobilize against, so the ruling class saw him as a liability.

durmald trouemp?

taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

gh0stpinballa posted:

should probably make a list of rapists and child molestors hillary is friends with or has taken money from, it could make for good propaganda

Are rich or powerful people more likely to be child molestors or are child molestors more likely to be rich or powerful?

CURIOSITY OF GEESE
Jan 29, 2009

My favorite meat is hot dog, by the way. That is my favorite meat. My second favorite meat is hamburger. And, everyone says, oh, don’t you prefer steak? It’s like, I know steaks are great, but I like hot dog best, and I like hamburger next best.

taqueso posted:

Are rich or powerful people more likely to be child molestors or are child molestors more likely to be rich or powerful?

I'd guess the former. A bunch of pederasts seem fine with maintaining local or community power in order to abuse—Priests, camp counselors, parents, etc. Those who seek power generally are probably more likely to seek it in any form. Including molestation/rape/slavery. Especially when there are parties with all your (aspirational mega-wealthy) pals ritually abusing someone to feel a sense of bonding. With wealth and power must come the sense that anything goes, right? They know people who do terrible things, but they're a "good guy" who is "very intriguing" and experiences no consequences for any of their actions, so maybe this one time they'll dip a toe in the pool of molestation. And then their pal claps a hand on their shoulder and says how happy they are that finally they're letting loose a little bit and by the way did they know about this merger that hasn't been announced and why don't they come to the island to talk business a little in between some "fun"

E: I guess the real answer is "yes"

CURIOSITY OF GEESE has issued a correction as of 07:43 on Oct 14, 2019

Duckula
Aug 31, 2001

do not resuscitate

HORROR OF GEESE posted:

I'd guess the former. A bunch of pederasts seem fine with maintaining local or community power in order to abuse—Priests, camp counselors, parents, etc. Those who seek power generally are probably more likely to seek it in any form. Including molestation/rape/slavery. Especially when there are parties with all your (aspirational mega-wealthy) pals ritually abusing someone to feel a sense of bonding. With wealth and power must come the sense that anything goes, right? They know people who do terrible things, but they're a "good guy" who is "very intriguing" and experiences no consequences for any of their actions, so maybe this one time they'll dip a toe in the pool of molestation. And then their pal claps a hand on their shoulder and says how happy they are that finally they're letting loose a little bit and by the way did they know about this merger that hasn't been announced and why don't they come to the island to talk business a little in between some "fun"

E: I guess the real answer is "yes"

You hate to see it.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
Billionaires and people who control the strings of power can't get off normally. They can't find enjoyment in normal human things because their experience is so far removed from normal human experience. They can't just enjoy playing monster Hunter world or going to get some ice cream. How can you enjoy a single ice cream for five dollars when you could make your own ice cream corporation?

So they start doing weird hosed up poo poo to feel anything at all until they can't have feelings unless they're doing cult rituals or railing coke off the back of an orphan before throwing her, screaming, out the back of the private plane over the Everglades.

So all yeah the answer is yes.

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

taqueso posted:

Are rich or powerful people more likely to be child molestors or are child molestors more likely to be rich or powerful?

I don't disagree that people like the ones in the previous replies to this question exist but I think a better explanation that applies to a much larger swath of pedos is that they have a paraphilia that requires a lot of - for lack of a better word - work to satiate. People, in a very broad and general sense with an acknowledged baffling number of exceptions, don't like to keep pedos around in their communities (unless it's a community of pedophiles e.g. the catholics).

The vast majority of CSA cases involve parents or relatives because the easiest/safest means of satiating this paraphilia without facing pitchforks and torches from your immediate community is to make a kid of your own and raise to the age you're interested in.

Wealth and power insulate you from consequences like your local community's mob justice, so your paraphilia compels you to seek them out if you aren't born into it like prince andrew or aren't gifted it as some kind of pedophile indigo child like epstein. Can wealth and power be coupled with and amplify or even create a paraphilia? Most likely. But if this were always the case, pedos that aren't part of the cabal or other networks of power wouldn't exist.

So I guess that means my answer is the former. The rich and powerful are definitely more likely to get away with it.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
I was thinking about it the other day and it kind of makes sense if you frame it as;

What do dudes do to get pussy? Some crazy poo poo, some dumb poo poo, get themselves killed, etc.

And that's just normal cis her dudes in a world where the overwhelming majority of people share their sexual orientation, and they have the biggest dating pool (het women) out there


Now think about pedos, their version of getting pussy is kids, which obviously can't consent so it's kid rape specifically, which is pretty much universally considered one of the worst crimes that humanity has, like I'm sure a decent amount of people consider child rape to be worse than serial murder for example.

So pedos shape their entire life around this desire, they become clowns or priests or teachers or whatever, and a bunch of them don't get caught, even on that low level. But what about pedos with instruction and training, endless resources and drive, you get people whose entire purpose is to ascend to the highest levels of power possible to fulfill this desire, and you end up with people like Epstein.

There are also people like Prince Andrew who start out with the power, and I honestly believe 98%+ of billionaires are pedos. But I think it's a combination of multiple things, and some become powerful because they're pedos, while other become pedos because of their power and the warping of their 'souls' or however you want to describe it via how human psychology and wealth and power operate.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

i just watched you were never really here and first, great movie, second, it's loving clearly been made by people in some way aware of the cabal, and third, i'm immensely relieved that joacquin is an ally of anti-sickos like ourselves

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/BBCBweaking/status/1183690735264112640?s=19

This probably isn't related to anything, but reading the wiki about this worm and Jesus gently caress. Imagine what he'd have been able to do if he were rich and connected...

It's like how a lone mass murderer is an evil psycho, but some meat neck at Blackwater is a "PMC contractor" and the only difference between the two is who is doing their thing in service to wealthy people


Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

i just watched you were never really here and first, great movie, second, it's loving clearly been made by people in some way aware of the cabal, and third, i'm immensely relieved that joacquin is an ally of anti-sickos like ourselves

As much as I want to love that movie I don't trust hollywood one bit to deliver that message and can't shake the feeling that it only got greenlit so some producer scum could gently caress the lead actress and/or everyone auditioning to be the trafficked child.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
starting to think that Epstein lucked out on some Charlie and the Chocolate Factory type deal way back in the day

Jeffrey and the American Pedophocracy

much like in the Dahl book there would have been other potential inheritors but they weren’t so lucky

Dr. Killjoy has issued a correction as of 08:47 on Oct 15, 2019

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

Regulus74 posted:

As much as I want to love that movie I don't trust hollywood one bit to deliver that message and can't shake the feeling that it only got greenlit so some producer scum could gently caress the lead actress and/or everyone auditioning to be the trafficked child.

thought this too, but everyone is just enough outside the usual hollywood milieu that i buy it is safe. for e.g. the villain is clearly a democrat governor and they show police and CIA involved in the network.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

smarxist posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCBweaking/status/1183690735264112640?s=19

This probably isn't related to anything, but reading the wiki about this worm and Jesus gently caress. Imagine what he'd have been able to do if he were rich and connected...

It's like how a lone mass murderer is an evil psycho, but some meat neck at Blackwater is a "PMC contractor" and the only difference between the two is who is doing their thing in service to wealthy people




I honestly hope he suffered

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

BattleMaster posted:

I honestly hope he suffered

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

gh0stpinballa posted:

thought this too, but everyone is just enough outside the usual hollywood milieu that i buy it is safe. for e.g. the villain is clearly a democrat governor and they show police and CIA involved in the network.

I am guessing that Jeff was selected at Interlochen but didn't secure the job until after he took over Dalton from Barr Sr., His move to NYC and Wallstreet was probably the start of his 'serious' assignments.

pech
Jul 19, 2004

https://www.mintpressnews.com/scrubbed-reports-reveal-new-secrets-of-the-prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-relationship/262330/

I thought this was worth a read

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
It's insane how hard the whole Epstein story got shutdown in the media in the past few months.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Colonel Cancer posted:

It's insane how hard the whole Epstein story got shutdown in the media in the past few months.

The people who own the companies that own the news and media companies are pedophile billionaires. Julie K Brown isn't touching the intelligence angle for a reason, the same reason Whitney Webb is reporting out of Chile.

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
i'm literally shaking now jesus christ gently caress everything
https://twitter.com/ObiscureNick/status/1158957998498123776?s=20
https://twitter.com/ObiscureNick/status/1158961292591300610

Ace of Baes posted:

The people who own the companies that own the news and media companies are pedophile billionaires. Julie K Brown isn't touching the intelligence angle for a reason, the same reason Whitney Webb is reporting out of Chile.

cabal deffo has pointmen in chile, since about 1945 i'd reckon

Regulus74
Jul 26, 2007

gh0stpinballa posted:

thought this too, but everyone is just enough outside the usual hollywood milieu that i buy it is safe. for e.g. the villain is clearly a democrat governor and they show police and CIA involved in the network.

That's not what I was saying. The content of the film is immaterial, look into the production companies and producers on it and I'd be surprised if there is more than one degree of separation from the cabal.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
https://twitter.com/k1llurboss/status/1183981638096584704?s=19

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

that tweet thread that tweet links to is something else

calling it ~the cabal~ when its out in the open and known by enough people to the point that its being posted about on blind items websites, where commenters immediately know who a website a website is talking about, is giving these people too much credit

it doesn't seems like any sort of formal organization. its just circles of people with power.

generally though, :capitalism:

Bulgakov
Mar 8, 2009


рукописи не горят

lives destroyed because boss mens and the investors that support them don't want the material circumstances they brood over, and treat as more important than their own existence, inhibited in any way

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

the nick revelations are sadly unsurprising it's an open secret the child star factories are hives of scum, and showbiz parents are fine with their kids being hosed cos they get jacuzzi suits out of it

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Dr. Killjoy posted:


cabal deffo has pointmen in chile, since about 1945 i'd reckon

IIRC Colonia Dignidad has been described as a (Nazi) pedophile's paradise and was a CIA blacksite after Pinochet came to power.

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

we need new thinking and ways of talking now, that much is apparent, the cabal cannot be adequately diagnosed with traditional political language, we have to map the dark topography as we go along, lines of power and intersecting agendas, so forth

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frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Bulgakov posted:

calling it ~the cabal~ when its out in the open and known by enough people to the point that its being posted about on blind items websites, where commenters immediately know who a website a website is talking about, is giving these people too much credit
:yeah:

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