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I kind of wish they'd just give every infantry model a 'size' stat and have that be how many transport spaces a model takes up. Guardsmen would be one, marines two, Primaris three, Terminators four, and Gravis six (for example). Mostly that makes me chuckle at the idea of shoving literally a battalion of guard into a single Repulsor with room to spare, but also a sense of  when you could fit a max size squad of Assault Terminators into a Stormlord.
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Strobe posted:I kind of wish they'd just give every infantry model a 'size' stat and have that be how many transport spaces a model takes up. Guardsmen would be one, marines two, Primaris three, Terminators four, and Gravis six (for example). One of the odd times out when forgeworld rules actually make more sense - most of the large fw transports work like that, though they stop just sort of having a full-on epiphany and actually assigning a size stat. I wonder if they would have arrived at that eventually if the primarising hadn't happened.
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Oct 14, 2019 18:45
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Cooked Auto posted:I mean you're not wrong in case. If I could I would've totally modelled a bunch of intercessors sitting on the edges of one. That would be awesome!
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Oct 14, 2019 19:35
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Booley posted:Primaris hands are literally bigger, so they can't operate the door controls, or fit their finger into trigger grips. This is why a primaris chaplain can ride in a valkyrie in a book, someone else let him in. The fact is the Primaris Marines are like Ogryns. Too scared to ride in transports because it is too dark without help. Cawl installed nightlights in the new hover ones.
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Oct 14, 2019 19:46
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Lord_Hambrose posted:The fact is the Primaris Marines are like Ogryns. Too scared to ride in transports because it is too dark without help. You can pay 4pts extra for soothing music to play
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Oct 14, 2019 20:07
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Oct 14, 2019 20:24
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Eifert Posting posted:45lbs is like 60$ right? 45lbs is about 20 kilos 45gbp is about 56 USD The Impulsor is $75 over here
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Oct 14, 2019 20:27
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mango sentinel posted:45lbs is about 20 kilos That's aussie "over here," right? 75$ for an 80 pt transport?
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Oct 14, 2019 20:36
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Eifert Posting posted:That's aussie "over here," right? 75$ for an 80 pt transport? Nope  Edit: characters are 40USD, Infiltrators are 60USD.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:44
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Strobe posted:I was mostly aimed at the Inquisitor list with five total models. The Commissar list is... less of a disaster waiting to happen. Eleven models is still on the low side for Guard that's not bringing a huge brace of special weapons, though. Ah yeah, no I guessed it would be bad to spend so much on one model but I was hoping someone would essentially say "ah no actually it's not that bad because..." and talk about some rule or way the game is played I hadn't figured out. It was a long shot. I think I'm happy with "you aren't going to get pasted but it's also not that good". One guy may bring an awesome ork kill team but I think everyone else is just bringing whatever. I have to lend a friend some grey Knights to take, but at least when they have 5 models it's because each one is pretty awesome.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:44
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I would love to know why DW don't get Impulsors.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:44
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^^^^ They are a different faction and their book is a year older than the kit? mango sentinel posted:Nope Gross.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:50
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I would love to know why DW don't get Impulsors. I hope they get an entirely different bespoke transport, because just being Marines++ is dumb and boring.
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Oct 14, 2019 20:56
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Let the vanilla marines have their own toys.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:01
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Just let Primaris marines board the Corvus Blackstar, you cowards.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:04
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Eifert Posting posted:45lbs is like 60$ right? If you wait a few months 45 sterling is going to be USD30
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Oct 14, 2019 21:06
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Z the IVth posted:If you wait a few months 45 sterling is going to be USD30 Wow someone is optimistic.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:18
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Eifert Posting posted:^^^^ When the new marine codex came out they made a case by case choice to let some of the "non core" chapters use the new toys. Deathwatch were actively excluded from most of it and only Grey Knights got it worse. GW actively works against the faction and Im not sure why.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:18
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Strobe posted:I hope they get an entirely different bespoke transport, because just being Marines++ is dumb and boring. That would be cool and good. Primaris Corvus. Eifert Posting posted:They are a different faction and their book is a year older than the kit? Didn't stop them from getting Executioners.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:23
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Z the IVth posted:If you wait a few months 45 sterling is going to be USD30 Lol as if this is going to change prices anywhere.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:24
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I like the new Incursor helmets, they evoke the old Mark VII frowny faces while still looking like a progression from them. On the other hand, Jesus Christ they need to stop using words that begin with "I"/end in "or" when naming Primaris units
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Oct 14, 2019 21:41
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FAQ the repulsor to take a 14 pt 4++ save thing. Why can you glue one to a transport but not your MBT?
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Oct 14, 2019 21:42
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JBP posted:FAQ the repulsor to take a 14 pt 4++ save thing. Why can you glue one to a transport but not your MBT? I'll take this for my Executioner. I really want to like them outside of Iron Hands, but every time I take one as Ultramarines it gets nuked way too fast.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:48
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Eifert Posting posted:That's aussie "over here," right? 75$ for an 80 pt transport? It will be $110 in Australia. 45gbp is like $85aud, but we pay McDonald's employees $24 an hour so whatever. Mef989 posted:I'll take this for my Executioner. I really want to like them outside of Iron Hands, but every time I take one as Ultramarines it gets nuked way too fast. Get two.
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Oct 14, 2019 21:48
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I need to strike up a derivative market here. A GW Model for hours of McDonald's labor swap.
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Oct 14, 2019 22:06
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Mef989 posted:I'll take this for my Executioner. I really want to like them outside of Iron Hands, but every time I take one as Ultramarines it gets nuked way too fast. JBP posted:Get two. Or three! Alternatively, try a Deredeo Dreadnaught from Forge World with the Atomantic Pavaise and get the same 5++ to everything in 6" the way the Iron Father does. You won't have the other IH benefits (6+++, double wounds on the damage chart) but it'll still be roughly 1/3 tougher against the big anti-tank guns. Stick an Ultramarine Techmarine behind the Executioner as well to help it along with some 1d3 healing. Still not as tough as Iron Hands, but then again, what is? 
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Oct 14, 2019 22:42
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PierreTheMime posted:I just won a Shadowspear box at a LGS tournament and officially have no excuse not to get my Primaris army rolling. I was the guy playing ten dreadnoughts and literally nothing else
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Oct 14, 2019 22:53
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Coldbird posted:Bit late, but you didn’t happen to have won that box at the charity tournament at Giga in Marietta, did you? I definitely saw a guy win one on Saturday. How'd "All Dreads All the Time" work out for you?
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Oct 14, 2019 23:03
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jng2058 posted:Or three! I thought he deredeo was worded as "wholly within." Didn't someone post that they're measured and the repulsor is just too big?
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Oct 14, 2019 23:18
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Mef989 posted:I thought he deredeo was worded as "wholly within." Didn't someone post that they're measured and the repulsor is just too big? It's fine: quote:If equipped with an atomantic pavaise, all friendly <CHAPTER> units within 6" of the Relic Deredeo Dreadnought gain a 5+ invulnerable save. This invulnerable save does not stack with or improve existing invulnerable saves.
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Oct 14, 2019 23:24
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That's actually bonkers I might get one to shore up the executioner firing position.
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Oct 14, 2019 23:29
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Coldbird posted:Bit late, but you didn’t happen to have won that box at the charity tournament at Giga in Marietta, did you? I definitely saw a guy win one on Saturday. Hey, yeah that was me!  I meant to ask you if you actually run them as Salamanders or did you go Iron Hands to make the world hate you?
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Oct 14, 2019 23:30
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Mef989 posted:I thought he deredeo was worded as "wholly within." Didn't someone post that they're measured and the repulsor is just too big? That is in the FAQ now that I look at it: Imperial Armor FAQ posted:
But I don't see how if the Deredeo was touching the middle side of a Repulsor that it wouldn't be wholly within 6". It's not THAT big, surely? ASCII demo posted:
It might be a little limiting to move around with a couple of Executioners essentially glued to the side of your Eddy, but it should be possible I think?
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Oct 14, 2019 23:33
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jng2058 posted:That is in the FAQ now that I look at it: You measure from the hull, so maybe entire hull. E: the hull fits if they're next to each other.
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Oct 14, 2019 23:34
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jng2058 posted:That is in the FAQ now that I look at it: It's possible, but there's about 1/2" of error margin, so you're hosed as soon as you need to move or there's any terrain.
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Oct 14, 2019 23:38
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Booley posted:It's possible, but there's about 1/2" of error margin, so you're hosed as soon as you need to move or there's any terrain. I'm pretty much planning to go get myself an Iron Father and go Iron Hands myself, but if you wanna Ultra and have a stationary Executioner - Deredeo - Executioner battery in the backline somewhere, I guess it is technically possible!
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Oct 14, 2019 23:45
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jng2058 posted:I'm pretty much planning to go get myself an Iron Father and go Iron Hands myself, but if you wanna Ultra and have a stationary Executioner - Deredeo - Executioner battery in the backline somewhere, I guess it is technically possible! I'm willing to try this. Having a 5+ for your back objective holders is still a very fine thing. Having your back objective held by this guy and an Executioner with some los would be a cool party. Lock down a quarter of the board and it will probably screw a smash captain out of doing his thing and totalling your Executioner. I'd rather have an alive executioner on turn three than one that did something turn one and died is what I'm thinking. I run stealthy so it's a 2+/5++ against shooting turn one which is really nice for a 200pt insurance policy that also shits out S8 W2 for primaris marine removal.
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Oct 14, 2019 23:50
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I finally finished something! Brings my Intercessors to 9. Next is the last sarge and a couple infiltrators.
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Oct 15, 2019 00:09
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Forgeworld showed us an atomantic pavise for the Dodo about 4 or 5 years ago then never put it up for sale
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adamantium|wang posted:Forgeworld showed us an atomantic pavise for the Dodo about 4 or 5 years ago then never put it up for sale I'd just stick on an admech bit
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