|
It wasn't nearly as bad before hand IIRC.
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 22:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 13:08 |
|
|
If anyone liked the combat in Indivisible I would suggest check out Super Robot Taisen: Endless Frontier. It's a spinoff from the regular SRW series and features people instead of robots and uses traditional RPG mechanics (exploring maps, random encounters). Plays very much like an evolution of the NamcoXCapcom games or one of the Project X Zone games, but with much tighter and more rewarding combos because of the focused cast (opposed to dozens of characters). The first one came out Stateside and while the story is a little dumb and generic anime the gameplay is super enjoyable. It's also a game where item usage, while not critical, can break the game in half if done well. Oh, and somehow it's also a Xenosaga crossover. KOS-MOS is literally in your main party.
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:09
|
|
|
Zushio posted:If anyone liked the combat in Indivisible I would suggest check out Super Robot Taisen: Endless Frontier. It's a spinoff from the regular SRW series and features people instead of robots and uses traditional RPG mechanics (exploring maps, random encounters). Plays very much like an evolution of the NamcoXCapcom games or one of the Project X Zone games, but with much tighter and more rewarding combos because of the focused cast (opposed to dozens of characters). The sequel JUST got a fan translation like yesterday too.
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:29
|
|
|
Well, I know my next game.
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:34
|
|
|
I am that person who still listens to the soundtracks and pines for the three missing Xenosaga games. I LIKED MY ANIME NOVEL RPGS.
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:38
|
|
|
Zushio posted:If anyone liked the combat in Indivisible I would suggest check out Super Robot Taisen: Endless Frontier. It's a spinoff from the regular SRW series and features people instead of robots and uses traditional RPG mechanics (exploring maps, random encounters). Plays very much like an evolution of the NamcoXCapcom games or one of the Project X Zone games, but with much tighter and more rewarding combos because of the focused cast (opposed to dozens of characters). i played through this entire game and all i can remember is that there was a cowboy and also massive anime titties some of which were also gun's
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:38
|
|
|
Zushio posted:The first one came out Stateside and while the story is a little dumb and generic anime the gameplay is super enjoyable. It's also a game where item usage, while not critical, can break the game in half if done well. Oh, and somehow it's also a Xenosaga crossover. KOS-MOS is literally in your main party. If you liked the first, there's a tl patch for the sequel if you want it too. https://twitter.com/ValkyrieXY/status/1183058813651476481
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:45
|
|
|
Zushio posted:If anyone liked the combat in Indivisible I would suggest check out Super Robot Taisen: Endless Frontier. It's a spinoff from the regular SRW series and features people instead of robots and uses traditional RPG mechanics (exploring maps, random encounters). Plays very much like an evolution of the NamcoXCapcom games or one of the Project X Zone games, but with much tighter and more rewarding combos because of the focused cast (opposed to dozens of characters). FORCED EVASION FORCED EVASION FORCED EVASION FORCED EVASION
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:50
|
|
|
I'm pretty sure the Endless Frontier games straight up continue the crossover universe from NxC and then are followed up by PxZ canonically just because of the main characters of NxC also being in Endless Frontier and referencing that stuff. Not that it really matters, since the plot is just fun anime nonsense (and you know, an actual fun game as opposed to the proper SRPG crossover games).
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:56
|
|
|
Phantasium posted:I'm pretty sure the Endless Frontier games straight up continue the crossover universe from NxC and then are followed up by PxZ canonically just because of the main characters of NxC also being in Endless Frontier and referencing that stuff. Not that it really matters, since the plot is just fun anime nonsense (and you know, an actual fun game as opposed to the proper SRPG crossover games). Hey, they're also in srw and those are amazing srpgs. We need a new OGs game though.
|
|
#
?
Oct 14, 2019 23:58
|
|
|
Infinity Gaia posted:The sequel JUST got a fan translation like yesterday too. Oh that's super cool, thanks for the info! I have a friend who will be super happy about this.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 00:14
|
|
|
Phantasium posted:I'm pretty sure the Endless Frontier games straight up continue the crossover universe from NxC and then are followed up by PxZ canonically just because of the main characters of NxC also being in Endless Frontier and referencing that stuff. Not that it really matters, since the plot is just fun anime nonsense (and you know, an actual fun game as opposed to the proper SRPG crossover games). The delightful thing about those games is that yes, they are connected in canon. Which in turn means that you can directly go Kevin Bacon on tons of different game franchises and it's completely valid. Technically it's entirely possible that Yakuza could meet Mechagodzilla IN CANON.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 00:21
|
|
|
Leraika posted:FORCED EVASION 
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 00:26
|
|
|
I mean Yakuza could meet Mechagodzilla anyway, that seems entirely feasible to me
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 00:49
|
|
|
DQXI's pacing is just awful. I get the "every single quest is episodic" but with how long the game is and how unwilling it is to discuss setting details, have the protagonist talk despite being plot critical, have plot arcs that end so stupidly I remember them only because how awful it makes our protagonist/writers look, and reserve actual narrative for approximately 20ish hours into the game and dollop it out like its a medical regimen Im not loving it. Oh and Sylvando is like they realized a powerful group heal is stupidly brokenly overpowered in DQ at 20 hours in and then decided that should carry him all the way through. In fairness though it absolutely will carry you through the first 2/3rds of the way through, it just sucks that pretty much is all he can do (oomphle is nice too) Barudak fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Oct 15, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:03
|
|
|
ACES CURE PLANES posted:If you liked the first, there's a tl patch for the sequel if you want it too. holy poo poo, i gave up on being able to play this ages ago
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:07
|
|
|
Barudak posted:DQXI's pacing is just awful. I get the "every single quest is episodic" but with how long the game is and how unwilling it is to discuss setting details, have the protagonist talk despite being plot critical, have plot arcs that end so stupidly I remember them only because how awful it makes our protagonist/writers look, and reserve actual narrative for approximately 20ish hours into the game and dollop it out like its a medical regimen Im not loving it. sylvandos charm based attack skills are pretty good. hes the king of versatility because he can do anything you want him to do. decent single target damage, decent aoe, good support skills, and excellent healing as for the pacing yeah thats kind of a series staple. the plot does kick into high year in a very interesting way at the end of act 1 tho
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:48
|
|
|
I've only played the demo but does the game ever lighten up on the chosen one garbage
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:50
|
|
|
I’m fairly certain that’s most DQ plotlines
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:51
|
|
|
Looper posted:I've only played the demo but does the game ever lighten up on the chosen one garbage Nope.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:52
|
|
|
i know the dragon quest series loves its cliches but the "chosen one via brand/pendant/other mysterious glowing emblem" thing always exasperates me DQ8 was the only other game in the series i played and it was a little better about it, the protag started on his adventure mainly because he was the only yutz who didn't get petrified by a kingdom-spanning curse
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:55
|
|
|
CharlestheHammer posted:I’m fairly certain that’s most DQ plotlines it's mostly that every party member I've gotten is with me explicitly because someone told them to follow the chosen one. older games gave your friends at least a little bit of internal motivation
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 01:56
|
|
|
Looper posted:it's mostly that every party member I've gotten is with me explicitly because someone told them to follow the chosen one. older games gave your friends at least a little bit of internal motivation I only feel like that's true of Erik, Serena and Veronica personally, the others have a bit different reasons
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:20
|
|
|
dragon quest xi is the dadrock jrpg, there's almost nothing in it story or gameplay wise that wasn't codified 20+ years ago
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:20
|
|
|
Looper posted:it's mostly that every party member I've gotten is with me explicitly because someone told them to follow the chosen one. older games gave your friends at least a little bit of internal motivation Dragon Quest is an essentially fascist series that promotes that only a chosen few may be heroes due to an innate quality, as opposed to heroics being born of a person's choices. Harsh, but true.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:27
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:i know the dragon quest series loves its cliches but the "chosen one via brand/pendant/other mysterious glowing emblem" thing always exasperates me yeah eight's chosen one stuff was only really in the post-game dungeon. its why he didnt get cursed and why he has a magic rat but you could just as easily say he just got lucky and have the entire plot of the game be the same actually a really funny way of doing it would have been to have eight get cursed and say that it stole his voice.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:27
|
|
|
Looper posted:I'm extremely wary of rom hacks that advertise their difficulty but I'd be super interested to hear what you think. I've been playing the randomizer myself and having a fun time I'll post more once I've played further but I wanted to let you know there's a Content Mode patch and a Normal Mode patch, with the former having all the features but being a much smaller bump in difficulty. So still harder but I mean, SMRPG was an incredibly simple game in the first place so even dying once would be a huge change.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:37
|
|
|
Endorph posted:yeah eight's chosen one stuff was only really in the post-game dungeon. its why he didnt get cursed and why he has a magic rat but you could just as easily say he just got lucky and have the entire plot of the game be the same DQ8's story made it very clear that the hero was unique special. It's not just him being the sole person to resist the curse unleashed on Trodain but that he is completely immune to curses, period. Curse effects in combat had a 100% fail rate and gave a special message about the hero being unaffected, iirc. The post-game just spells it out. Looper posted:it's mostly that every party member I've gotten is with me explicitly because someone told them to follow the chosen one. older games gave your friends at least a little bit of internal motivation Sylvando isn't. Rab and Jade aren't, they'd have joined you no matter what for obvious reasons. The others? Yeah sure. Evil Fluffy fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Oct 15, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:46
|
|
|
Just started playing Atelier Rorona, which I'm informed is one of the bad ones. Wish me luck!
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:53
|
|
|
Seyser Koze posted:Just started playing Atelier Rorona, which I'm informed is one of the bad ones. Wish me luck! it's not, unless you're playing the original rorona for PS3. If your version has "Plus" or "DX" in the title it's a good game
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:55
|
|
|
cheetah7071 posted:it's not, unless you're playing the original rorona for PS3. If your version has "Plus" or "DX" in the title it's a good game it's the original rorona for ps3
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:55
|
|
|
Atelier Rorona Plus/DX is a solid 9/10 game imo e: please tell me what's bad about it because I only know it from reputation, I've only played DX
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 02:55
|
|
|
cheetah7071 posted:Atelier Rorona Plus/DX is a solid 9/10 game imo Ayesha is the only other one I've played (I just found the Arland trilogy on sale, which is why I'm playing Rorona) but from glancing at the trophy guide, it looks like you can lock yourself out of the game's good/bad/meh endings by doing too well or poorly too early, and that some character-specific endings require you to be on a specific good/bad route. That sounds like something the DX version would've fixed.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:01
|
|
|
Evil Fluffy posted:DQ8's story made it very clear that the hero was unique special. It's not just him being the sole person to resist the curse unleashed on Trodain but that he is completely immune to curses, period. Curse effects in combat had a 100% fail rate and gave a special message about the hero being unaffected, iirc. yea but its not something the characters really constantly reference, they seem pretty unaware of it. dq11 references it constantly every single time the camera pans to the mc.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:04
|
|
|
It didn't seem that bad to me in DQ11 but I'm also used to modern WRPGs where your character being THE (X) and having some sort of glowing special chosen one symbol is basically assured.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:06
|
|
|
It at least does some interesting things with the idea in the later parts of the game, though it does start pretty straightforward.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:08
|
|
|
The chosen one bit in DQ11 is just bad and feels like it gets left in the series to support the fact the hero cant talk thus they cant make an argument for why people should join them. babypolis posted:as for the pacing yeah thats kind of a series staple. the plot does kick into high year in a very interesting way at the end of act 1 tho Im in act 3 now and Id say it actually gets worse. Barudak fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Oct 15, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:12
|
|
|
There really isn’t anything interesting you can do with a chosen one storylines outside like straight up subversion .
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:15
|
|
|
CharlestheHammer posted:There really isn’t anything interesting you can do with a chosen one storylines outside like straight up subversion . -if you are not creative
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:20
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 24, 2024 13:08 |
|
|
Snooze Cruise posted:-if you are not creative If your creative you aren’t using a chosen one storyline.
|
|
#
?
Oct 15, 2019 03:22
|
|